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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:08 PM
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Daschle to Take Health Care Czar, HHS Position
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:09 PM by kpete
Daschle to Take Health Care Czar, HHS Position
by: Matt Stoller
Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 12:07

And here we go.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/30285-1.html?ET=rollcall:e3282:80065226a:&st=email

Former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) has been offered the job of Health and Human Services secretary by President-elect Barack Obama and has accepted the job, according to a Democratic source close to Daschle.

Daschle, who served in the Senate until he lost his re-election bid in 2004, also is set to take on the position of "health care czar" in the Obama White House, ensuring that he does not get bigfooted on matters relating to health care policy, according to this source.

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=10026
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:09 PM
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1. good pick. nt.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:10 PM
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2. Good for Daschle.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:11 PM
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3. What are his qualifications....Dr. Dean would have been better!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:13 PM
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5. Have to agree there.
I'm interested in hearing more about this (especially confirmation that it is true).
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:19 PM
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13. He a DLC, corporatist Democratic. What other qualification do you need?
Without the DLC, the Democratic Party would be nothing. How do you think they got back in power?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:22 PM
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19. Not true. they got back in power because of us that
work tirelessly every day to make Obama election a reality.. DLC did not do a freaking shit..
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:23 PM
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20. heh. nt.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:41 PM
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31. Oh, but they are the ones who are getting all of the rewards.
It's simply amazing how that's worked out.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:47 PM
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33. Skwmom, Daschle is not, has never been a member of DLC.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I've been looking all over the internets for proof that he was ever a member.

After some research, I must conclude that you're talking out of your ass.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:20 PM
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39. Hmm... but he considered them the next generation of Democratic Leadership....


Daschle speaking to the DLC in 2001: We often look to those larger-than-life figures of our past for wisdom and guidance, but if I had to put my faith in something, I'd put it in the people at this dais, and the people in this room, the people who have come to Indianapolis for this national conversation (OF THE DLC). Assembled here is the new generation of ideas and the next generation of our leadership.

So the DLC is the next generation of our leadership? Oh, no. He doesn't sound like DLC to me. How could I have been so mistaken.

http://www.dlcppi.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=106&subid=122&contentid=3675
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:35 PM
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46. This is when he was Majority Leader. They invited him to speak.
What's he going to do, stand up there and insult them?

BTW, how come we never hear this kind of thing directed at DLC MEMBER Al Gore?
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:42 PM
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49. Because as Gore likes to say he is a recovering politician.
Gore let his decent side win out. How refreshing.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:12 PM
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4. wHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT HEALTH CARE?
TO ME, he is another wimp..he won't confront republicans.. he lost his senate seat because of lack of cojones.. I wanted Howard Dean in that position.

When is Obama goign to think about Howard?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:15 PM
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10. Daschle has written a book on Health Care
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:16 PM
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11. But he has great lobbyist connections and knows how to play the game.
Did you really think the way things were going that Dean was going to get anywhere near that job?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:20 PM
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15. what do you mean the way things were going?
Howard Dean did everything Obama asked him to do. Howard Dean was and IS the mastermind of the 50 states strategy. Yes, Obama had the flow and knew how to "sell" his brand, but Howard was the brains behind it, obama and campaign managers all they did was delivered it.

So, please explain.. what you mean by that statement.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:26 PM
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22. I agree. Dean saved the Democratic Party. But for some reason, the Democrats seem
hell bent on destroying it again.

What I'm saying is that Dean is much to qualified and ethical to ever be considered for that position.

He would have been great and done great things for this country but he is not a Corporatist Democrat, and that is who truly controls this party.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:34 PM
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26. If Dean wanted it, he would have been a great choice
Not that he's so much more liberal than Daschle, but Dean has represented new ideas for moving the party forward. He could likely do it on health care, too. I don't know why he gets little respect.

Daschle is an ok choice I guess, though.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:19 PM
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14. He stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. nt
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:39 PM
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47. Well Done.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:21 PM
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18. He wrote one of the key health care plans debated during the 90s.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 12:21 PM by ProSense
More here and here.

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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:36 PM
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27. I disagree with your take on why he lost his Senate seat
He lost his Senate seat b/c he was up for re-election in 2004 in a state that voted 20%+ for Bush. He was demonized by the right-wing as an extremist, "far left" "obstructionist," despite the fact that, to anyone with a brain, making this claim about Tom Daschle is laughable on its face. The Repugs nationalized the campaign, similarly to the way that they defeated Cleland in GA in '02. Daschle wasn't defeated b/c he was milquetoast but because the Repugs were able to ridiculously caricature him into a socialist baby-killer who wanted Americans to die- and a slight majority of South Dakotans turned out to vote against that caricature.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:49 PM
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36. Part your are correct, but I remember Daschle NOT
defending himself forcefully agains those charges. He didn't want to win it, He lost it because he didn't put any resources to fight back, his attitude towards those lame accusations was inept. He probably thought he was save in that seat.. obviously, when you don't fight from your heart, you get beaten.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:40 PM
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50. Nothing was going to help Daschle in 2004
He was Target #1 in a Republican Year.

The Repubs did to him what we did to Santorum in 2006.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:14 PM
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6. CNN just confirmed this
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:14 PM
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7. I think that we need to give Obama very high marks
for recycling.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:14 PM
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8. I like Daschle, but as a primary care physician, I wish he would have chosen Dr. Dean
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:17 PM
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12. I think Dr. Dean wants to be a Dr. again
Maybe your practice can hire him?

:rofl:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:20 PM
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16. I can understand why he didn't
My understanding was that he wanted someone with experience and connections on the Hill to help get a health care plan through Congress, which makes sense, given what happened with the Clinton health care debacle in 1993.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:14 PM
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9. Ugh
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:28 PM
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23. Why is Obama campaigning in Florida. We are going to lose there anyway.
Your previous concerns were noted. :eyes:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:22 AM
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53. wow - let go of the disruptive hate
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:21 PM
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17. Another leak. Why cannot they wait until it is done and let Obama announce these nominations.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:37 PM
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29. "they" is Obama.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:39 PM
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30. No clue who is They. Just asking because it is getting ridiculous. Announce them or keep them secret
Dont leak by anonymous Democratic officials.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:26 PM
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21. Well, that's cool. I like Daschle. nt
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:29 PM
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24. Are those who said Obama should reward supporters happy now?
He was waiting to reward a supporter who had the right credentials - i.e., corporate Democrat. And you thought the DLC was out of power.....
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:30 PM
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25. heh. nt.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:46 PM
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32. i am sorry, but you shouldn't feel so proud of your group
your group has destroyed the Democratic party.. Where is Howard Dean? Why isn't he being considered for any post?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:48 PM
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35. its a big conspiracy against him. nt.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:35 PM
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45. Amazing. To be so proud of a group that has led to the economic and financial
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 01:35 PM by Skwmom
devastation (that has really only begun) of this country. It's really mind-boggling.
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:36 PM
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28. Dang...
I was so hoping for a Dean appointment. :( That let my day down.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:24 PM
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41. Do we even know if Dean was interested?
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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:29 PM
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43. since when do we have to "know" things around here?
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 03:14 PM
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52. No, however...
I don't know that he was interested, but with all his hard work and his ability to lead, I was hoping that he'd get a chance to be a part of the administration and the HHS appointment seemed like a good fit and there were rumors that he was in the running.

Dean is one of my heroes and I just want to see him do as well on a national stage as he did for us in Vermont.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:47 PM
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34. Good choice. Daschle's a huge proponent of UHC.
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changemonger Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:53 PM
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37. So Dean was snubbed .
Daschle was one of the first high-profile supporters of Obama and he's certainly more than qualified for the Job.

Good pick.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:41 PM
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51. Did Dean even want the job?
Daschle has passed health care legislation at a national level before.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 12:58 PM
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38. What are his creds for this position?
Not really a Daschle fan, so hopefully someone can explain to me what makes him qualified.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:22 PM
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40. Great News!
He's a good man who was unfairly demonized by the right and then unfairly abandoned by the left.
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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:26 PM
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42. He was chosen because he knows how to move legislation
which, I beleive, was the primary reason behind the Rahm Emmanuel pick and, to a lesser extent, the Biden pick

Obama's healthcare bill has to get passed, and there are few better qualified to make that happen than the former Senate Majority Leader
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:33 PM
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44. It's the type of legislation that is gong to be "moved" that concerns me.

Bill Clinton pushed through NAFTA, deregulation, and media consolidation and those haven't worked out to well.




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NJGeek Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:24 AM
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54. Give the guy a chance
The amount of preordained judgement on this board is very peculiar.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 01:41 PM
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48. Anyone who is surprised or suddenly upset by this hasn't read much on Obama...
Most of Daschle's people have been working for Obama since he entered the Senate. Daschle has also been a close advisor to him for years.
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