What's the main reason that Lieberman should have been thrown out of the Democratic caucus?

[Onlooker]

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. either we welcome all or we are no different from that tiny, outdated,

regional party that until recently, used to own congress and the white house.

[JuniperLea]

3. And that, my friend, would be change

Obama is behaving as if all have a clean slate and all are worthy and his only duty is to be a civil adult. No rumors, no drama, no "neener neener you did this so take that" behavior at all.

I'm down with the Obama plan. Someone is going to screw up and evoke his wrath at some point, and then we'll all know what the deal is for sure. Until then, I have faith in the man I had faith in on 11/4 and before.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. what you said, x2

[nyc 4 Biden]

26. But we don't welcome all.

We welcome those who share our beliefs in which direction America should be heading i.e. workers rights, quality health care for all, fair trade policies, protecting civil liberties, increased diplomacy, etc.

Democratic Party Platform
http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html

[ChairmanAgnostic]

28. you sed:

workers rights, quality health care for all, fair trade policies, protecting civil liberties, increased diplomacy,


Reminds me of an experiment run by a local junior college in my nape of the forest. It was 2003, and the GOP RRRRRRRevolution was in fool force. They had a copy of the declaration of independence, and the preamble to the constitution. At random, they walked up to people on the street and asked their thoughts about one or the other document.

the reactions were crazy. One student had to talk to angry police explaining that he was on a school project. The majority of the people were offended, thought it was some muslim attack, or some communist program to destroy America. A few, very few, recognized them for what they were.

we have a LOT of work ahead of us.

[AlinPA]

2. He stood behind Palin and smiled as she called Obama a terrorist and

their followers shouted "kill him, kill him" about Obama.

[JuniperLea]

4. Yes he did

And that serves to prove Obama is the better man. But he's no fool.

[AlinPA]

5. Agree, but Lieberman-Palin-McCain's campaign that fired people into rage and hatred

puts Obama at risk and helps turn part of America into an ugly mob.

[JuniperLea]

9. I'm sure if anything actually happened

Obama would jump on it right away. Until then, "firing" Lieberman would only amount to sour grapes. This is something the Pubbies do, not Obama.

[mtnsnake]

6. He shit on Democrats in 06, he shit on Obama in 08, he kissed McCain & Palin's asses in 08

Anything else matter?

[scarletwoman]

7. Other: He's a repulsive whiny-voiced deeply stupid man of zero accomplishment.

Weeding out such wastes of air would greatly improve the quality of our governance in general.

sw

[JeffR]

11. I like your answer much better than mine, sw.

:fistbump:

[scarletwoman]

14. Why, thank you, dear. I do like YOUR list quite a lot, however.

I think that between the two of us, we've covered most of the salient criteria for voting "other". :D

sw

[JeffR]

17. By Jove, I think you're right!

:think:

[scarletwoman]

18. Of course I'm right. When have I ever been wrong?

Geeesh. You'd think people would figure this out after awhile...

[Hepburn]

27. What she said. n/t

[JeffR]

8. Other

- tireless warmonger

- campaigned dishonestly for McCain/Palin

- has not been a Democrat for years

- has broken with the Democratic caucus on key issues

- has been wholly ineffective as a committee chair

- reneged on his promise to investigate Bushco (non)response to Katrina

[New Dawn]

10. He is a right-winger. Right-wingers belong in the GOP.

[grantcart]

12. other -- the man is completely untrustworthy

[scarletwoman]

22. I agree. But the beauty of this is, every act of his that betrays trust from now on will be starkly

visible. He's now had a big spotlight turned on him.

If nothing else, Joe Lieberman is a man who knows on which side his bread is buttered.

Surely we must grant him that. :)

[AndyTiedye]

13. Because He is a Republican in All But Name

Any liberal principles LIEberman ever had have been tossed aside in his rush to embrace Bush** and McAnus.

He says he's pro-choice, but he voted for cloture on every wingnut anti-abortion judge that Bush** put before the Senate.

[Overseas]

15. Seems like my President Elect is aiming for those 60 Seats

to move our national agenda forward, and Joe will cooperate, so he is now in.

I like the 60-seat drive because I'd like to see a progressive pragmatic agenda zoomed in-- fast tracking alternative energy, giving people universal health coverage, and rebalancing the tax structure, for a start.

Pragmatic goals exceed emotional revenge for my President Elect, so I shall try to understand.

I can discuss and complain all the way, for sure. That's what we do here. Hash it all out. What would we do to a turncoat who was a carnival barker for the enemy tent? We can squawk it all out. I just wish we'd all jump onto the same threads, but each person wants to start their own, when really we're all trying to discuss how to understand this forsaking of revenge in favor of progress.

This inclusiveness is so new to us all.

But if our dissenters are at the table, they've got to argue for their side too. Lay the reasoning on the table for all to debate, and if you lose, then sign on to what we're pitching. That's what I'm thinking it is. Lots of progressive values can be supported on very logical grounds, with ample evidence, so why not have all views at the table to debate and then sign on behind the winner?

[Diamonique]

16. I don't have a problem with him remaining in the caucus.

But I strongly believe he should have been stripped of the chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.

[IndianaGreen]

19. Lieberman will sabotage Obama's Middle East peace efforts

and he will be a GOP mole.

[DainBramaged]

20. He is a lying piece of fungus, is that a good enough reason?

And a traitorous scumbag to boot.

[BlooInBloo]

21. He shouldn't have been thrown out of the caucus. Just take away the gavel.

[Canuckistanian]

24. You left one out - "He was doing a lousy job"

As Chair of the "Governmental Affairs" committee, he actually did NOTHING about investigating government malfeasance.

From Plame to Katrina to Guantanamo to Warrantless wiretapping, Holy Joe just kept that seat warm and that's IT.

[secondwind]

25. "betrayal", "revenge" and "warnings" are all RW words.........Democrats

don't operate that way.

We have to remember that!


:)