'HARDBALL' GUY DERAILS HILLARY

[Beacool]

November 18, 2008 --

"HARDBALL" host Chris Matthews and the other "castratos" at MSNBC shouldn't hold their breath waiting for a Hillary Clinton interview.

Matthews, who once opined that men who supported Clinton were "castratos in the eunuch chorus," forgot the cardinal rule for those who are often mentioned on Page Six - he didn't take a good look around on the Acela train from Philadelphia to Washington Saturday before he started bad-mouthing the New York senator.

An avowed Clinton lover who was sitting next to Matthews reports: "He was in business class wearing a red baseball hat that said Penn on the back, and the fat fell asleep on the train and snored with his mouth open."

During the ride to DC, Matthews awoke from his nap. A fellow passenger asked him, "What's the news tomorrow?" - to which Matthews loudly started talking about President-elect Barack Obama possibly picking Hillary as his secretary of state.

"I don't understand it," Matthews bellowed. "Why would he pick her? I thought we were done with the Clintons. She'll just use it to build her power base. It's Machiavellian. And then we'll have Bill Clinton, too. I thought Obama didn't want drama. He's already got Emanuel and Podesta. He'll have even more drama with her.

"She's just a soap opera. If he doesn't pick her, everyone will say she's been dissed again, we'll have to live through that again."

Matthews seems to be playing both sides of the fence. The host, who apologized to Clinton last year for claiming she got where she was because "her husband messed around," said on-air last Friday: "Look, I think that since she lost the fight for the nomination, has been not just a good soldier, she has sang the tune of . She's been illustrious, she's been admirable . . . her spirit seems to be with him."

A rep for Clinton declined to comment while a rep for Matthews didn't return e-mails.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11182008/gossip/pagesix/hardball_guy_derails_hillary_139198.htm

It appears that Tweety is becoming unraveled, couldn't happen to a better sexist creep.

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[w4rma]

1. Mathews is correct. (nt)

[Beacool]

4. Yeah, right............

:eyes:

[ErinBerin84]

2. sorry, I don't believe PAGE FUCKING SIX items.

And even if he said that, so what...he's allowed to have an opinion.

[countingbluecars]

3. It's his opinion.

He has a right to it.

[Beacool]

7. Then guy is a jerk, not because he's not entitled to his opinion,

but because he displayed his sexism throughout the primaries.

He's one of the main reasons why I won't watch MSNBC.

x(

[countingbluecars]

12. I like him.

I don't always agree with him, but I enjoy Hardball as well as Countdown and the Rachel Maddow show-all on MSNBC.

[Hieronymus]

39. Me too. Dyed in the wool Hillary supporters allow for no criticism of her.

[MadBadger]

15. ...

:cry:

[EconomicLiberal]

5. Page Six?

Is this what this forum has sunk to? Reporting "news" from that cesspool?

[ErinBerin84]

8. seriously.

Especially since the NY Post has been an epicenter of trashy gossip about the Clintons and RW propaganda in general...it's all Michelle Malkin and Jonas goldberg in there.

[Beacool]

9. Why not?

I've seen here entire texts lifted from RW sites. Why not from a gossip column?

:shrug:

[ErinBerin84]

10. well, I don't think it's right when others do it either.

[Thrill]

6. Thats my question. WHY WHY WHY WHY? with so many others out there qualified

[Connie_Corleone]

11. Page Six is bullcrap. Matthews said all this on his show last Friday.

They just took what he said on his show and changed it to a different setting (train ride).

[blondeatlast]

13. New York Post. Page six. And I should take this seriously why? nt

[MadBadger]

14. NY post...SWEET....GO TWEETY

[Erin Elizabeth]

16. So I could say I sat next to someone on a train and make up

all sorts of stuff they supposedly said and Page Six would print it, right?

:eyes:

[changemonger]

17. what's sexist about this ?

I think Tweety is 100% right here.

[nyc 4 Biden]

18. I agree.

I agree with Tweety as well. IMHO, Obama promised Hillary the SOS spot when she stopped running in the primaries and threw her support behind Obama. Again, IMHO, that is the only way this all makes any sense.

[Catherine Vincent]

19. That's not surprising.

Matthews has always been a Clinton-hater. Screw him.

[Hawkowl]

20. Even a broken clock...

is right twice a day. I think the blowhard is right on the money here.

[Upton]

21. Murdoch outlet? Give me a break

sounds like you're still fighting the primary battles....Chris is all right with me.

[Shakespeare]

22. OMG! Matthews voices an opinion while off the air!

BFD. And he makes some valid points, whether you like it or not.

[bunnies]

23. I like Tweety. And he's in no way 'coming unraveled'.

He's entitled to his opinion. Why are you wishing ill will on him for it? This is one of the things that always gets me. *sigh*

[Beacool]

28. It's not his political opinions I object to,

it's the sexist remarks he made for months against the one woman running for president. If he had instead made racist remarks, all of you would be up in arms about it.

It's always the same double standard around here simply because the woman happened not to be the candidate of choice of most on this board. So it was OK to excuse his piggish comments.

:-(

[bunnies]

40. I dont remember him saying anything sexist.

But then again... I avoided the sexist / racist threads. They made my head hurt.

[Alter Ego]

24. Tweety's been awesome.

[yourguide]

25. Many on this board...

Agree with this statement:

"Why would he pick her? I thought we were done with the Clintons. She'll just use it to build her power base. It's Machiavellian. And then we'll have Bill Clinton, too. I thought Obama didn't want drama. He's already got Emanuel and Podesta. He'll have even more drama with her.

"She's just a soap opera. If he doesn't pick her, everyone will say she's been dissed again, we'll have to live through that again."


Yes, the Clinton's are all drama, all the time. There is nothing sexist or untrue about it.

[Beacool]

29. Because it's the remarks of a total jerk, and a sexist one to boot.

Machiavellian?????

I guess that it's OK for Obama to have been ambitious, but not OK for Hillary to further her career.

Whatever........

:eyes:

[ErinBerin84]

34. he has said many sexist things

But I don't find the Machiavellian remark to be particularly sexist....if he said it, which who knows, because we are down to reporting what a freaking gossip tabloid prints.

[yourguide]

35. please explain to me

how using the word machiavellian in that context is sexist?

:eyes:

Jesus, you HRC peeps need your own section of the board I think.

[Beacool]

42. The word itself is not sexist, but he is.

Besides, why is it Machiavellian to want to change jobs? I personally would rather she stayed away from his cabinet. So I'm not advocating for her to take the SOS gig, but why is it wrong for her to want to further her career? Isn't exactly that what Obama did or is he the only one who doesn't get criticized for wanting to be president?

;-)

[ErinBerin84]

44. again, he has said sexist things on the air

He has said things regarding race that I am unhappy with too. So can't we stick to criticizing those? We are debating something posted on PAGE SIX. He has been pretty measured lately on his show, and was shooting down people like Michelle Bernard, etc, who were saying that Hillary would be horrible, and was defending Hillary. And if he DID say this off the air, at least he is trying to be more measured on his show and pointing out the benefits of having Hillary as SOS. Jeeze.

[yourguide]

45. We need GD: Hillary

Dear Skinner, Mods, everyone else, please start a section called GD hillary to end this nonsense.

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[Hieronymus]

41. Obama ran a clean campaign and it paid off. Hillary sank to Rovian

tactics .. it didn't work .. she lost.

[Beacool]

43. "Clean campaign" is a matter of perspective

and I'm not trying to rehash the primary. My criticism is of Matthews, not Obama.

[Beausoir]

26. I always knew he was a mouth-breathing drooler.

He's also a sexist pig with an axe to grind ever since President Clinton rejected him.

[Beacool]

36. Thank you.

Finally the voice of reason. Aside from his many misogynist remarks, he even pinched her cheek after a press conference in NH. He's the typical sexist jerk who puts women down, but can't resist trying to ogle at women. I remember the teasing he got at the time from the members of his panel. He also made some inappropriate remark to an attractive financial analyst who came on his show (I forgot her name). Tweety is an ass, around here he's popular because his leg never stopped tingling for Obama, if he had favored Hillary they would be trashing him too.

x(

[AtomicKitten]

27. "She's just a soap opera."

that sucks all the oxygen out of the room

[Beacool]

31. The drama queens and kings

are the ones tearing their hair out over the possibility of Hillary becoming SOS.

Not the Clintons.

:shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

33. "This is well on its way to winning best Oscar for drama.”

From (and props to) ClarkUSA's original post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7881371&mesg_id=7881371

Team Obama, after all but offering SecState to Senator Clinton, is expressing EXASPERATION with the Clinton camp for the difficulty in getting a clean vet on President Bill Clinton’s many entanglements. “The ball is very much in her court, but the president's finances have been a major point of sensitivity from day one,” a Democratic official said. (“Day One!”)

“Given that everyone's mystified by how deliberately public the Clintons have made this once secret process, the assumption is either that the Clintons are trying to use the public buzz to steamroll their way in, create a sense of inevitability that overcomes those concerns, or that it's just a matter of time before they … satisfy vetting somehow, some way.

Otherwise, after all this speculation, there’ll be a permanent dark cloud hanging over her finances. … But generally the sense among the no-drama Obama world is: This is well on its way to winning best Oscar for drama.”

[Skwmom]

30. I think Matthews wants to believe in Obama. I think the Clintons disillusioned him and a LOT of

other people.

[4lbs]

32. New York Post? The print version of Faux News?

Can we have confirmation from some other place that isn't Rupert Murdoch owned?

[blogslut]

37. The New York Post?

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

The "castrato" remark is priceless. No sexism there - you betcha!

[Forkboy]

38. I'm hardly a fan of Matthews, but how is this even close to becoming "unraveled"?