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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:02 PM
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Main reason why keeping Lieberman is strategically WRONG....Democratic Idiocy all over again...
Forcing him out would have most likely made him switch parties and this would have been good for Dems. Why you ask? Because in his next re-election he would run as a Republican. This past election he relied on Republican votes, Independent votes and oddly loyalist Democratic votes. If he had been forced to switch parties, it would have made his re-election much harder.

But no, what do the Dems do again? Play a game of checkers instead of playing a chess game.


Spineless.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:03 PM
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1. Lieberman won't run in '12. He knows he stands no chance of winning.
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changemonger Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:19 PM
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8. don't be so sure
n.t
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:21 PM
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9. Of course he won't. You'd have to pry his cold clammy hands off any seat of power. n/t
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:04 PM
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2. Dick Durbin lost ALL of my future support...n/t
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:09 PM
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7. The entire Democratic Senate lost my support....
I am really upset right now I can't think straight. :argh:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:05 PM
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3. Maybe Obama can disban HLS
I don't know if he can do this or what the proceedure would be but it's a pointless department anyway. Do away with it entirely. That will get rid of the position of chairman, too.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:07 PM
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6. NOW that would be hilarious...love to see it...
Oh, that would be so funny if he did that. "Sorry Joe, going to disband it, roll it under such and such where it really needs to be.."....
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 PM
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10. He is Chairman of the Sen. Homeland Sec. Committee, not head of the Department of Homeland Security
Obama can't do away with Senate committees. Sorry.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:05 PM
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4. Actually he was more the Rethug candidate then the Repub was.
Everyone saw the Repub as the independent. Don't worry, CT will take care of him, his popularity is tanking here. Also, remember that CT is ideologically moderate. Dems and Rethugs are very alike here and so are the people who vote for them, it is more personality then anything else. We are very Democratic here but have a very popular Repub for a governor.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:06 PM
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5. Dupe
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 12:07 PM by Jennicut
Everyone saw the Repub as the independent. Don't worry, CT will take care of him, his popularity is tanking here. Also, remember that CT is ideologically moderate. Dems and Rethugs are very alike here and so are the people who vote for them, it is more personality then anything else. We are very Democratic here but have a very popular Repub for a governor.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:29 PM
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11. Agree 100%
I too have said this. I really don't know what the hell they are thinking in the Obama camp. Or even the dem Senators. One thing is for sure, Harry Reid is the weakest, most spineless, worm we've seen as Majority leader of any party in modern history.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:34 PM
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12. The Democrats keep letting us down by being spineless over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Damn, we need a new party. The Dems we currently have in Congress (with few exceptions) are SUCH an embarassment. And in failing to protect the Constitution by being too fucking spineless to go after Bush, they have violated their oaths of office.

Gawd, I've had enough of this shit.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:06 PM
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13. I'm trying to figure out why he wants to be with the Democrats. He wrote them off
at the convention, supported Palin calling Obama a terrorist, and helped fire up the hatred against Obama at rallies.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:33 PM
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15. Self Power...
Look at the power this one Senator now wields.....he has shown he has the big stick, has used it and is willing to use it again.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:13 PM
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14. Or he could have just resigned
or retired which would have given the Republican governor of CT an opportunity to appoint a real republican for the rest of Joe's term.

The reality is that other than foreign policy, he votes with the Dems - choice, health care, environment. I'm not happy that he got away with what he did without punishment but having a republican in that seat would be waaay worse.
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