Hillary Clinton to accept Obama's offer of secretary of state job

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of state offered by Barack Obama, who is reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned.

Obama's advisers have begun looking into Bill Clinton's foundation, which distributes millions of dollars to Africa to help with development, to ensure that there is no conflict of interest. But Democrats do not believe that the vetting is likely to be a problem.

Clinton would be well placed to become the country's dominant voice in foreign affairs, replacing Condoleezza Rice. Since being elected senator for New York, she has specialised in foreign affairs and defence. Although she supported the war in Iraq, she and Obama basically agree on a withdrawal of American troops.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state

[saracat]

1. This has got to be the eighth time this has been posted!

Does anyone even readf DU before posting? Not being snarky, just wondering.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. Jesus Christ slam my head with a hammer and then fuck my skull with a pipe.

[HughMoran]

6. Heh, that's a mild punishment for the evil crime you hath commited!!

:rofl:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Whatever

It's not on the Duplcates page or the Greatest page or the Front page....


Am I supposed to peruse the whole board before posting?



Remember when ten people simultaneously posted the Gallup poll...

[HughMoran]

13. Are you Drunken Irishman or DemocratSinceBirth? You do know I was joking with him, right?

Lighten up - I was just having fun with someone!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Drunken Irishman Is My Doppelganger

~

[HughMoran]

16. Sooo, you were confused and thought you posted that?

Or by doppelganger do you also mean "sock puppet"?

Coy doesn't work here - sorry.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. The Latter

Forewarned is forearmed...

[BuyingThyme]

2. F'n Guardian.

It's like they've got reporters over here or something.

[JVS]

27. Actually, their coverage can be sketchy , and I think that they skimp on reporters

When Haider died, I saw an article posted here by the Guardian about Haider's "Special Relationship" that basically used an article from die Tageszeitung for all its information, so instead of doing their own journalism they summarized another paper's work. What also struck me is that because I had read the original article the day before, I could see that the Guardian was making bolder claims about the news item than were actually present in the original article. A good newspaper shouldn't be part of a game of telephone.

[dkf]

3. I'm beginning to think she is forcing this on Obama.

Why would anyone announce they are going to accept this when it is obvious she hasn't been fully vetted yet.

Do we really want someone this obnoxious as SOS? ARGH.

[niceypoo]

5. I want her to be chosen for one reason...

...to watch the freepers, and a few bigots here, go bezerk! To me, that is entertainment.

[dkf]

Why would bigots in particular go berserk over Hillary?

Maybe its people who dislike the Iraq war and don't want to obliterate Iran who are the most distressed.

[Jamastiene]

39. If someone disagrees with her based on the issues,

they may mention that issue and express their displeasure in a strongly worded but respectful way, but their heads will likely not explode and they likely won't resort to name calling using slurs against women.

The sexists, however, will hurl a string of insults/sexist slurs a mile long and their heads will explode.

It is like the difference between having a strong opinion (disagree with her based on issues) and being obsessed to the point of mental health issues(misogynists).

[ben_meyers]

19. The "bigots" here maybe, but hardly the freepers

here is a post that sums up what some of the freepish sites are saying...


I hope he does appoint Her Thighness.
Hill and Bill will be vetted and details leaked
Hill will be a pain in Zero's arse
Bill will cause some scandal (female related).

Life will be fun.


Limbaugh is just salivating at the prospect of a Hillary SOS.

That being said though, if Obama thinks she is the one for the job, so be it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I Hate The Word 'Arse"....It's A Flipping 'Ass'

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. Tell that to Geoffrey Chaucer

NB that it's cognate with 'arsch' in German; the American variant is first recorded in the mid-19th century, but 'arse' predates it significantly, and ultimately has roots in proto-Indo-European.

[JVS]

28. In English it would depend on the rhoticization of the local dialect.

For example imagine a Bostonian saying "Get your Arse in the Car, we have a wicked Pisser to attend" What's that going to come out sounding like?

[Jamastiene]

40. I do too.

That word looks wrong and probably sounds wrong too.

[Jamastiene]

38. That would be

:popcorn: worthy. :P

[joshcryer]

23. No, actually, those who respect Hillary suspect she'd pass a vetting process quite easily.

It's those people who bought the 16 year long right wing smear campaign against the Clintons (which was heavily trumpted during the primaries) who have "questions."

Obama is not a child, if he choses Hillary it will not be because of some mythical "forcing of the hand."

But for you to believe that would require you to remove the smear campaign from your mind.

A near impossiblity (16 years of brainwashing doesn't go away so easily).

[dkf]

25. This example of her diplomatic skills really stinks.

If she were truly suited for the job, she'd make Obama's choice easier for him, by keeping quiet, being calmly persuasive, and letting him do what he needs to do.

Instead she has riled up everyone with her presumptuous acceptance.

I have a bad feeling about her being SOS, and its not from old conspiracies but all because I've seen a lot more of her since she ran for President.

[RichGirl]

33. What facts do you have that she wasn't quiet about it?

I haven't heard her say a thing about it except when she was asked, and even then she didn't say anything...and neither did Bill.

[Jamastiene]

41. Well said.n/t

[RichGirl]

31. Remember when it was "leaked" that Biden would be VP?

Did Biden do that to FORCE Obama to choose him? Why didn't Hillary leak that she would be VP to FORCE Obama to pick her?

I wouldn't want someone who forced their way in and I would not want a president that could be forced. Best not to speculate...nothing good can come of it.

It was the Obama team who leaked Biden, because they were preparing people so we could all be on the same page and have a happy celebration. I imagine the same with SOS.

[Maven]

32. The way she "forced" her way in as VP?

Oh wait. She didn't.

I beginning to think you don't give enough credit to Obama (or Clinton, but we knew that).

[leftynyc]

37. You must think PE Obama

is pretty weak. If she gets it, it's because he wants her there and you'll just have to get over it.

[Jamastiene]

42. You really think he is that weak and easily led?

I hardly think the newly elected leader of the free world can be so easily "forced" to do anything by Hillary Clinton or any other Senator. Either trust his decisions or disagree with him, but to say he is being forced is to dishonor his integrity. If we want him to lead us for 8 years instead of just 4 years, it would be wise to avoid undermining his decisions.

[PBS Poll-435]

7. ...

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

[Starry Messenger]

9. My hero.

:patriot:

[PBS Poll-435]

12. lol

Seriously, the next time that the nice PBS lady from KERA calls me asking about a pledge, I am going to demand that my contribution is earmarked to keeping that poll online forever.

[NYC_SKP]

21. I can't believe that poll has numbers that are still moving...

...I'm beginning to admire ole' PBS poll 435 just for it's stubbornness.

BTW, nice arrows!

[PBS Poll-435]

22. The arrows are new

The poll is slightly older...

Psst... Nice to see ya!

[NYC_SKP]

29. ditto...

I've been traveling, nice to be able to drop in and see what's happening!

:donut:

[SIMPLYB1980]

30. LoL!

:toast:

[wisteria]

8. It hasn't been offered to her yet. Seems like more Clinton hype to try and force Obams's hand.

I hope he is wise to this.

[Maru Kitteh]

34. Thank God you figured it out for him.

Obama really needs you to figure things out for him and protect him from the Clintons.


Yup.





no. . . really.

[MadBadger]

11. I simply have not trusted the UK papers to report American news this entire election season

No reason to start now.

[bluestateguy]

15. Still waiting for this to be reported by an American paper

and a paper that does not rely on anonymous sources and rumors.

[Sensitivity]

17. Wish someone would report WHO is providing this info to the press

[Sebastian Doyle]

24. When did Murdoch buy The Guardian?

It's not usually like them to be irresponsible and print bullshit like this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!

:bounce:

[Mass]

36. Another anonymous source... Sigh. Apparently, this country will be governed

by anonymous sources that have no accountability to anybody.

I have a suggestion. Let's make the Secretary of State anonymous. Given that we are ready to believe any anonymous source just like that.