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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:50 PM
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"But he got an honorable discharge!"
Wolf Blitzer is such a f*ckin' whore! Keeps saying that over and over in trying to argue with a Democrat on his show who is bringing up the specifics of Shrub's AWOL. My question is, why is Shrub's "honorable discharge" supposed to indicate his service record cannot be questioned while the media had no problem questioning Kerry's service record despite his winning three Purple Hearts? So, "honorable discharge" indicates an infallible record but Purple Hearts don't mean a damn thing?

This time around, the corporate media is working harder to "Gore" Kerry more than they even tried to Gore Gore!
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:52 PM
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1. Rather quote
"I want to emphasize: I stand by my president. We are in a time of war, and I stand behind my president. There is not joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid, and when we come with facts, and legitimate questions supported by witnesses and documents that we believe to be authentic, to raise those questions no matter how unpleasant they are," Rather said Friday.

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:08 PM
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9. time of war
WE ARE NOT AT WAR PEOPLE

I wish they would shut the cheney up

America is not at wa
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:55 PM
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2. he got the "honorable discharge" the same way he got into the Guard.
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 04:56 PM by blm
PRIVILEGE.

SPERM CLUB.

ROYAL TREATMENT.

Anyone else would have been arrested or on the front lines in Vietnam.

Bushes are NOT like other people, no matter how hard the media spins that he is.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:56 PM
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3. I was just about to post on this subject...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 04:56 PM by nostamj
to take it further:

why should we BELIEVE the 'honorable discharge' was, in fact, honorable?

we know he got INTO the TANG through disHONORABLE means.

we know that he did not SERVE honorably.
1. refused physical
2. lost flying status (huge expense to the US for training)
3. did not report for duty in Alabama
4. did not report for dury in Massachusetts

why is it remotely a stretch to suggest that the same political muscle was used to 'give' the priviledged, drunken, drug abusing, SOB an 'honorable discharge'?

if that's ALL they've got it's no wonder they're trying to smear CBS rather (pun intended) than defending his (non-existant) RECORD???

on edit: consonant replacement therapu

p.s. Ginsberg = 'a golum of shit'
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:56 PM
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4. Honorable Discharge is completely bogus
My brother was honorably discharged from the Army, but they threw him out because of an altercation he got into.

It is such a weak argument to claim that an honorable discharge equates necessarily to satisfactory service. An officer is reluctant to dishonorably discharge someone because it is the same a convicting them of a felony as far as their future reputation is concerned.

Show me an officer that has the courage to dishonorably discharge the son of a wealthy and connected government official, and I'll show you someone who should be President, assuming he survives the assasination attempts
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:06 PM
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8. Plus, there is the general discharge.
Anyone with a less than honorable discharge can file for remediation and get it upgraded later which happened to my nephew who was tossed out of the AF with a General after getting into a knife fight in England. He was a little shit while on active duty, showed his ass, got thrown out, but he now has an Honorable discharge.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:56 PM
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5. And CNN replayed the Rather and Poppy Bush exchange
just before airing the interview of Dan Rather regarding the memos. The subtle suggestion in showing the heated exchange between Rather and George H.W. Bush that occurred during that 1988 campaign was that there was bad blood and a possible motive for revenge by Rather.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:59 PM
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7. if you can't defend the chimp
throw SHIT everywhere else as fast as possible, while everyone is ducking, IVAN will take over the "news"

if I ever run into LesLIE Blitzer, I will spit on him.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:17 PM
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11. Get in Line
"if I ever run into LesLIE Blitzer, I will spit on him."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 04:57 PM
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6. next question, did he get an honorable discharge
or was it the higher ups insisting on him getting one cause of the influence his family has. lets ask, did he deserve that honorable discharge
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:12 PM
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10.  It's the "But Ken Lay hasn't spent a day in jail" defense.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:27 PM
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12. Daddy got him in, Daddy kept him from being thrown out, Daddy got him out
Blessed be the name of the Daddy.

The media should focus on the major points.

He said he never got preferential treatment, yet his old teacher said that Daddy pulled strings, and Barnes says he was the string who was pulled.

He said that he didn't take his physical because he was going to be transferring to a unit where he wouldn't be flying. He didn't say that he disobeyed a direct order to take a physical.

He was ordered to find a unit in Massachusetts (or nearby) and he never bothered to do so.

Let's get serious, too: his unit was activated for 24hr border security duty when he was AWOL, before weaseling off to Alabama. As such, that may technically make it desertion.

The honorable discharge only means that strings were pulled for him continuously.

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irancontra Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:29 PM
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13. how bout dubya at the OBgyn
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:29 PM by irancontra
But he's got a horrible discharge...

sorry.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:32 PM
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14. Wolf, he got a fuc*in' HD because the fuc*in' silver spoon in his...
fuc*in' mouth coudn't get any fuc*in' bigger.

Who the fuc* is gonna dress down the Fortunate fuc*in' Son?????

Jeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 :grr:
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:33 PM
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15. Exactly!
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:34 PM by mbali
I suspect that Honorable Discharges were handed out much more freely and with considerably less scrutiny than Purple Hearts and Bronze and Silver Stars . . .
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