Palin-Jindal 2012

[redstate_democrat]

One is a Rhodes Scholar and the other attended five colleges

Both are rabidly anti-choice. However, one believes in an exception for the LIFE of the mother and the other doesn't believe in ANY exception, not even life (Jindal)

One is an exorcist hunter and the other was touched and protected from witchcraft

What more could a wacky Christian Conservative ask for?

This is the tickey. Jindal is planning a 2012 run.

Jindal:
Former Asst. Secretary of Health (Federal Level)
Former Louisiana Secretary of Health
Former U.S. Representative for Louisiana's 1st Congressional District
Former President of Louisiana University System
Current Louisiana Governor

Palin:
Alaska Governor
Wasilla Mayor
Former Vice President Nominee

[camera obscura]

1. Even though I loathe everything Jindal stands for, putting him as the VP is just cruel

although that may be a cruelty he deserves. Let him stew on the fact that he's playing second fiddle to a Wasilla hillbilly.

[ErinBerin84]

2. isn't Jindal

also for chemical castration of sexual predators, or was that just a rumor?

[mscuedawg]

5. Here's what I found on Huffington...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/26/louisiana-gov-jindal-auth_n_109342.html

[mscuedawg]

7. oopsie...dupsie...

[galaxy21]

11. He is, That's actually the only thing I like about the guy.

Anyway, no way will Palin be able to get through the 10-15 republican debates. And, I really can't see her being able to run her own presedential campaign. Hillary made a mess of hers, and Hillary's smart. How would Palin run a multi million dollar organisation?

[Bucky]

44. Given that those who commit these crimes are virtually uncureable...

... it's not the worst possible solution. A lot of remorseful child predators themselves favor this punishment/treatment for a compulsion that more than 90% of them simply aren't able to control.

[ErinBerin84]

49. I didn't say it was the worst., I was just asking.

[Bucky]

52. I didn't say you said it was the worst., I was just answering.

I hope you didn't pick up anything patronizing in my word choice. Words over the internet can end up sounding a lot more harsh or judgmental than intended. Especially to people with stinky breath.

[ErinBerin84]

55. sorry that I came off that way, I didn't think you did

I actually thought that I sounded snarky after I clicked, haha. :)

[Bucky]

57. But you can tell I just fall in love with my own words sometimes

I even went a quoted myself in my sig file. Like Alf, "I slay me!"

[mscuedawg]

3. I was waiting for a thread on Jindal....

because I cant count the number of smear-mails I rec'd stating that Barack Obama took his oath of office on the Koran.

That was Jindal....

Now in the past week...I have watched a graceful Obama win the election and I have learned humility...so I guess that means I won't be lowering myself to the Repukes scare tactics when Jindal decides to run....

:patriot:

[sammytko]

38. Jindal is a Catholic. That guy was from Michigan - can't remember his name....

[PaDem]

41. it's Minnesota........

and it's Keith Ellison, a congressman.

[mscuedawg]

42. You guys are right...my bad... I should looked before I lept...

[GrizzlyMan]

4. Jindal isn't a white male

Not a chance in hell the GOP nominates someone who looks like he does. Not a chance.

[redstate_democrat]

6. I said they would never nominate a woman and I was wrong

They might be desperate enough. Besides, the conservative white folks down in Louisiana voted for him. He got over 50% of the vote.

[peace frog]

15. Oh, they're desperate alright

but I think they would nominate a white woman before a non-white man. Jindal's popularity in Louisiana aside, his adventures in exorcism will not sit well with evangelicals who comprise the majority of the GOP faithful.

[GrizzlyMan]

61. It doesn't matter if the party leaders are desperate enough

The mouth breathing rank and file won't have it. You're giving them far too much credit. Let's not forget the OVERT racism GOP voters exhibited at rallies just mere weeks ago. What, they're going to get less bitter over time? Not a chance.

[political_Dem]

8. He became Governor of Louisiana. That should say a lot.

[galaxy21]

21. I think republicans would find it easier to vote for an Indian American, over a African American

There's no history of tension between whites and Indian Americans (at least compared to the troubled history between whites and blacks). There are also more negative stereotypes surrounding African Americans than there are Indian Americans.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. You must have missed this story

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/34058819.html

[political_Dem]

28. I'm not surprised. But I wonder if stories like this ever reach the consciousness of Jindal?

By the way the Republicans are propping him up on a pedistal now, I think not.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. There are the 2 big wings of their party

The KKK Palin wing who would consider an "ex-Hindu" (now Catholic, but they won't separate "Hindu" from "Muslim"), who descends from "farrrr-nerrrrs", not a "real American" who is worthy of their time.... and then the other side, who likes to put tokens up there so they can appear to be "inclusive".

There's gonna be some Rockem Sockem Robot battles coming up. Mark my words! :rofl:

[political_Dem]

34. I agree. The White males of that party are not going to give up control any time soon.

I know that there are going to be some battles due to the issue you mentioned. The Republicans just endured losing the election to Mr. Obama. Right now, they're mad and they can't take it anymore. Even George Will's feeling a little bit perturbed that Mr. Obama is not doing "what the Founding Fathers would have intended."

Mr. Jindal is going to get his eyes opened in the next coming months.

You can count on that. It's already starting.

[political_Dem]

26. I agree. And sometimes, they use someone like Jindal to keep those wedges in place.

That's the problem here. The Republicans are all about dividing and conquering all people of color.

The thing about Jindal is that he doesn't complain. He helps this tactic along by letting the GOP get away with it.

I'll be waiting for how they treat Jindal when he starts to speak out about the Republican tactics against people of color. I wonder if he'll step down "because of his family".

[Bucky]

45. The rabid fundies feel like they got a bum steer buying McCain. They want a shot and...

Bob's their uncle. Don't for one second count on Republican racism getting in the way of Republican ideology. They are the enemies of progress they are, not the enemies of inclusion that we want them to be. If Colin Powell had been pro-life, anti-affirmative action, and pro-corporate subsidy in 1996, he would have been nominated 12 years ago.

[Honeycombe8]

66. I think they might. They're looking for a futuristic candidate to appeal to a younger,

more ethnic crowd, but still tow the party line.

They will be looking seriously at candidates who can enthuse the base AND appeal to moderate Republicans.

Don't underestimate Jindal. He got elected governor in a Republican state that still has a KKK presence. I've heard him speak.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[Danger Mouse]

69. Oh fucking bullshit. 'Be afraid' my ass.

God, the pants-wetting hand-wringers are out in force already.

[Honeycombe8]

71. So...I should take seriously an "argument" by someone whose idea of an "argument" is...

"God, the pants-wetting hand-wringers" HAHAHAHAHA.

As I said, you ignore Jindal at your peril. I'm an Independent who is a wholehearted supporter of Obama. I would consider voting for Jindal. He's charismatic, eloquent, convincing, authentic, and a self-made man, I understand. Remind you of someone?

[Danger Mouse]

73. You'd consider voting for a batshit insane rightwing religious fundie?

Then you're probably on the wrong website.

[Uzybone]

76. You need to be on another site

If you would consider voting for Jindal. he is a right wing fundie at its worst.

[0955Forrest]

9. terrible ticket

repubs would have to be stupid to put it out there...

[Aviation Pro]

10. Obama/Biden win in a landslide for the ages....

....524 EVs to 14 EVs. 100,000,000 votes to 23,000,000 votes.

[zulchzulu]

12. Perfect ticket to confuse the Repig brain

Have a woman in charge? Repig brain on the male side says no fucking way.

Have a funny looking dark-skinned guy within a heartbeat of being President? Racist Repig brain says no fucking way.

PERFECT!!!!!!!

[mscuedawg]

24. My bad...delete

[galaxy21]

29. republican men were actually Palin's biggest supporters

the thing about Palin is....she's not percieved as a threat to men. She's a woman that will undermine women, for the benefit of men. That's why they love her.

[zulchzulu]

50. I talked to at least a dozen Repigmen who decided not to vote for McCain because of Palin

She might appeal to Repigmen that live with Mommy and are looking for a porn fantasy replacement, but the real beasts think she's a ditz... for that, I respect them.

[Confusious]

Why not Just call it

The religo-nutbug wacko believe-in-witches-and-spirits in-their-own-F***ed-up-world-I-don't-want-to-belong-to CRAZY duo

[NoGOPZone]

13. It won't happen

The GOP would never nominate a ticket that diverse, and after McCain's experience Jindal likely won't want anything to do with Palin.

[MercutioATC]

14. "Palin/Jindal 2012...because you can never have too much religious zealotry."

[Lisa0825]

19. LMAO!

If this ticket does emerge, I want that bumper sticker!

[Honeycombe8]

67. Jindal won't be a VP on a ticket with a woman. He'll be at top of ticket, or VP with white male.

He is slated in the Repub Party for big things, on a path to the Presidency.

A woman and an ethnic on the same Repub ticket would be too much "change" for them. And it would send the wrong message for Jindal to be second banana to a woman, esp. Palin (his knowledge base and political expertise would put her to shame...he's also a governor with more experience, too). No, he would be at the top of the ticket, unless there's an extremely popular white male at the top.

But I'm guessing Jindal is slated to run for President.

[political_Dem]

16. One other thing.

If power is that important to Jindal, I wonder if he'll overlook Palin's secessionist and white separatist ties? Would he be affected by what Palin did to whip up the hate of the crowds against Mr. Obama?

Any other person of color would be disturbed over those ties and behavior.


But then again, Mr. Jindal likes campaigning for Colonel Sanders. :sarcasm:

[Solomon]

64. Hey. Jindal doesn't know he's black. LOL

Not yet anyway. He;ll find out soon enough.

[political_Dem]

77. It may be sooner than he thinks.

There are some folks who are not going to take an Obama Presidency and the "new found change" lying down. A lot of these folks are in his own party. Now, if they are chagrined at a Black man taking the highest office in the land, how are they going to feel if Jindal gets a little too "ambitious" for his own good?

He can ignore all the racism as much as he likes, but there are already a slew of hate crimes that are occurring because of the change in leadership--especially in his own state.

I also wonder if he thinks that a "noose" is a prank instead of a symbol of genocide? (a la Jena 6)

[RepublicanElephant]

17. oh please, please, please... run this ticket, gop!!!

this ticket would make mccain-palin look like political genius.

[mscuedawg]

22. Reminds me of what an Obama campaign worker said to me about Palin...

she's the BEST thing to happen to Obama/Biden!!!!!!

[Thrill]

18. My guess is they will have a tough time finding someone to run against Obama

He'll have like a 60% approval rating.

It will be Reagan vs Mondale. No matter who the Repukes run

[galaxy21]

23. I don't think Jindal will run if he thinks its a lost cause

Palin, on the other hand, is so dumb she probably would.

[zulchzulu]

20. Honestly though, the Repigs always run the old-school heir apparent

NEWT!!!

The VP would be a Hispanic guy... Martinez of Florida.

OMG... I feel sick.....

:puke:

[eleny]

27. Over Jindal's dead body

I think he's going for the top spot. He's trying to make magic in Louisiana to rack up his creds.

She's got a fight ahead of her and I'm not sure she can make it.

[AwakeAtLast]

30. WTHR in IN tonight just did a story on Mitch Daniels going for 2012

He will not confirm on camera, but he had a few RNC people talking him up in the segment. They touted his "big" win in a newly blue state as evidence that he could be a good choice for the Repukes. We'll see what he pulls in the next four years. :eyes:

[Ozma]

31. Why are people on the DU obsessed with starting threads about Palin?

This woman is a fool and a fraud, and an egomaniac.

Let's not encourage this any longer.

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[KDTV]

35. Palin would get approximately 30%

And i'm being conservative.

[galaxy21]

36. I'm still not sure whether those 55 million voters voted for McCain because of her or in spite

of her.

If it was indeed because, she could put up a decent fight. But maybe there were just people that liked McCain, and hoped Palin would never have to take over.

[OKNancy]

37. After hearing Jindal on MSNBC, I sure don't want to run

against him. He is one smart cookie... wrong on the issues, but he is very well-spoken and he doesn't SOUND weird or kooky

[galaxy21]

39. I am sure Jindal's going to run in 2016

Unless, Obama does something really bad, Jindal isn't going to waste his political future on what he knows will be a losing shot in 2012. Its notoriously more difficult to unseat a sitting president.


I actually think Palin has to run in 2012. Let's face it, a big part of her appeal is her looks. She'll still be a looker in 2012. By 2016 she'll be in her fifties and probably won't be giving men hard on's with her winking anymore.

[tigereye]

40. no, it would probably be the other way around...

Jindal -Palin

[and-justice-for-all]

43. can you say religious fascist?

Jindal and Palin are out of their damn minds.

What we did learn from this election is that the Reich Wing is not nearly as strong or numerous as it was proclaimed to be. If it was such a force, then they should have easily got McCrypt/Falin elected; but as it turned out, they failed and rather dramatically too.

I am not saying there is not any reason to discontinue to watch these people and expose them for what they are, they need to watched. we can not afford to have them back in office again, they will just destroy any progress made, I hope to see Obama/Biden go two terms.

[anneboleyn]

46. No way that Jindal would carry the anchor that is Palin into the 2012 or 2016 election

I think Palin will end up with a show on Fox, and not much of a political career (maybe I will be wrong, who knows). But her numbers are so low it is hard for me to imagine that any serious politician, especially an ambitious one like Jindal, would want her anywhere near his ticket. Plus she's perpetual train-crash tabloid fodder, like Britney.

[galaxy21]

48. If Jindal gets the nomination, he might feel like he'll need a white male to appeal to the

republican men. People speculated Obama would need a white guy running mate for the same reason.

And Jindal/Palin would have to be the oddest ticket in the history of American politics. On so many levels, it just wouldn't work.

[JustJon]

60. I tend to agree.

Whether they're arguably the best choices for the job or not, I'm sure most politicos assume that there's a percentage of white working men who would veto any ticket that had both a minority and a woman on it, just because of the "affirmative action" chords it would strike in certain voters.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

47. Pinky and the Brain redux.

[JustJon]

51. Jindal seems tainted to me.

Jindal won't succeed for one of the same reasons that Romney didn't this year.

After the merciless negativity flung at Kerry, whether or not people realized or recognized it, Romney had some trouble because he was also a robotic Massachusetts politician whose religious credentials didn't quite fit what the Christians wanted.

And Jindal will have trouble following Obama. After they riled up all this negativity because Obama looked foreign and seemed like someone who might plausibly belong to the wrong religion, Jindal's gonna be facing the same worries in the back of minds of people on The Right.

It's hilarious that the Republicans spend months planting seeds of doubt about certain kinds of candidates, only to turn around and find out that half of their own front-runners will end up being painted with the same brush that tagged their opponents in the previous election cycle.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

53. Excellent post, and I agree.

"And Jindal will have trouble following Obama. After they riled up all this negativity because Obama looked foreign and seemed like someone who might plausibly belong to the wrong religion, Jindal's gonna be facing the same worries in the back of minds of people on The Right."

No doubt. Republicans will still vote for their nominee, but turnout for Jindal as a nominee will no doubt be somewhat depressed for the exact reason you stated.

[MsTryska]

54. As I said in another thread...

Jindal is the worst kind of cynical opportunistic republican - he is so hard right because it gets him further in his party - he stumps the churches because it will get him elected.

Don't trust him, and don't turn your back on him.

[galaxy21]

56. I think he might be true believer like Huckabee, nuts but genuine

Just the whole 'no abortions even if the mother's life is in danger', that is a very dangerous, unviable political position to take. You can't gain anything from it from the pro life base by claiming that (even they are willing to accept that if a woman's life is in danger an abortion is okay.)


Its such a politically stupid position to take, I can only assume he's genuine.

[MsTryska]

58. I'm sure he's a true pro-lifer...

but I don't believe he is a true Catholic/Pentecostal what have you. That's where the cynicism comes in - he's got these holyrollers thinking he's one of them.

He married a woman of the same Hindu caste as him (most likely because his parents arranged it). Which makes no sense if he were a true "Catholic".

(i'm saying this as a first generation Indian myself.)

[NYC_SKP]

59. I got their homeland security czar right here....

[snake in the grass]

62. Under Palin's qualifications...

...you forgot to list "hockey mom".

[TheKentuckian]

63. Jindal is probably their best piece and Palin is catnip for the base

What else do they have? They can maybe roll the Huckster but unless the base gets off the Palin kick they might actually be literally forced to put her on the ticket again but Huckabee probably won't take the 2 spot and Sayruh is fighting hard.

They'll pitch Jindal that Palin can introduce him to the base and make them comfortable as well as take the negatives by still being the attack dog which sets him up for 2016. Palin probably will still be clueless in four years so they'll just inverse the roles on the ticket. Jindal would actually be doing all the policy stuff and making the substance speeches and Palin would be Palin.
Sure, they lose but Jindal goes into the next cycle a familiar and generally liked candidate.

I don't like it at all.

[ipfilter]

65. Are there any normal people left in the Republican party?

[always_saturday]

68. Which one is for an exception for the life of the mother?

[RoadRage]

70. Palin. She's the more "sane" of the two.. and that should scare ANYONE.

[dkofos]

72. I will worry about them in 2012

[jmowreader]

74. No, it will be Jindal and some white guy to be named later, in 2016

The only way Jindal runs in 2012 is if Obama turns out to be a hideously bad president--we're talking worse-than-Bush bad. That's almost certain NOT to happen.

Jindal wants to be president. He doesn't want to be vice-president, and he doesn't want to run a campaign he's certain will fail--which will happen if he runs against Barack Obama. Therefore, no 2012 candidacy for Jindal.

2016 is a different story--Obama will be retiring and a charismatic Republican might have a chance.

[Arugula Latte]

75. I'd rather vote Pestilence-Gonorrhea than Palin-Jindal

[mwei924]

78. Republicans have learned their lesson-- they won't be running bible-thumpers.

My guess is that they'll run Mitt Romney or some other opportunistic but not completely batshit candidate.

[Neshanic]

79. With his puss? He scares people. Her, she just is scary.