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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 AM Original message |
2 paragraphs that make me wonder just how peaceful Obama is |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama isn't as progressive as some DUers hope n/t |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Really? |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. really |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. He's pragmatic |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. De-fib a stopped heart? sounds like the cure. |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. A stopped heart... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
51. which system? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I think right -of-center. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I'd wager very few DU'ers are so uninformed they think Obama is "progressive" |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Some are. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Some of us actually paid atttention to his voting record in the Senate |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. depends |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. and some of us are aware that the vast majority of legislation is FAR from progressive |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. I never thought that at all |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Compared to what we have been dealing with |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. But he's the most liberal senator! |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. DID YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING HE SAID FOR THE LAST 20 MONTHS?? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I expect alot of FISA moments on here over the next 4 years |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. That's what I'm thinking. He told us how he felt on Afghanistan. |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. However, Obama is also no pushover who will just do whatever |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. He's talked about putting more troops in Afghanistan for 2 years |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. Sorry, you lost me at the word "Nader". I didn't read further. nt |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Ack, I MISSED THAT. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I almost stopped at the Counterpunch link. They HATE Democrats more than Republicans |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. if there is one thing we've learned about Obama, its that he lets people walk all over him |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yet another person who apparently didn't listen to a word Obama said over the past two years. |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Spot on |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. Obama is peace, but he isn't no pushover. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I agree |
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crossroads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Hear Hear... have a little patience... Obama is a smart man and no pushover! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. why do you waste your time reading Counterpunch? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
16. ah yes quoting Ralph Nader quoting Emanuel's father. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. he is dead and was a Repug. thought I was a feminist nut case |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
23. First of all, Obama hasn't said a word about missiles in Poland. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
24. who gives a damn what nader thinks. Nader, who called Obama an "uncle tom" thinks |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. every voice is important |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. I am just expressing my opinion about nader. I have heard enough of nader and bush to know where |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. I think now would be a good time for everyone to read TEAM OF RIVALS |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. what Lincoln did way back then has no relation to what is happening |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I do seem to recall that he did have some kind of military issue at the time. |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Oh, snap! |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. the US at that time was not a world empire like it is today. |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. You might want to bone up on your history |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Are you fucking stupid? |
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RFKHumphreyObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. Oh yes and Ralph Nader advanced the cause of peace so much didn't he |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. Can we give the guy his first 100 days... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. The Chief of Staff's job is to push legislation through Congress ..... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. Did you vote for Obama? Did you volunteer or donate? |
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Genevieve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. I doubt that she did -- read all the threads th OP is starting: |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Ralph Nader should put a sock in it and choke. |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. Ralph Nader can go fuck himself for all I care... he called Obama an Uncle Tom.... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. I don't w0nder about you at all. YOU are a filth peddler, peddling lies. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. i don't either, i think it's pretty clear. |
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Genevieve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. that too, and or to quote another poster: |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. He must be a disappointement. HAS TO BE A DISAPPOINTMENT |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Rahm Emmanuel is bad news. I wish Obama could reconsider. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. by who? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. yeah, why would he pick a close friend who has experience |
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Ozma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. Ralph, I think you let the engine running in your... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
45. When he worked for Clinton |
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TexanDem (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. whether Nader says it abt Emanuel or not -- all this is true. >> |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. obamas not a pacifist, hes only against dumb wars. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
56. When Rahm Emanuel does a push-up, he's not lifting himself up. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. Obama ought to have 100% freedom to choose his own |
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sub.theory (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. You lost me at quoting Ralph Nader |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
64. you mean Ralph Nader who actually called Obama an "Uncle Tom!" on national TV tues. night? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. This really makes me worry about Iran. |
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curse of greyface (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
68. You know some Progressive Democrats support the Afghan war.. |
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