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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 06:59 AM Original message |
I'm less and less convinced the documents are forged. Post evidence here. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's an advertisement I found last night: |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. do you have an approximate date for that ad? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. 1958 n/t |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thanks. I'll send it to George Stephanopolis-tica |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Note the.. |
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LTR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. IBM has been making proportional spacing typewriters since 1941 |
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halfastro (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. It doesn't look good |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Proportional spacing a problem? See post #1. |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. some of the documents Bush released has the "th" superscript |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. I think this is the document you are referring to.. |
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veteran_for_peace (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. YOU ROCK!!!! |
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Paradise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. doubt cbs is napping. we'll know soon enough. n/t |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Not the same typeface |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Good Job Salvor! |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. look at the curved bottoms of the 1's, i's, and p's on the CBS file. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Thanks for visiting |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Bull - by 67 the IBM "mag" was in major offices - Tech in 72 was 5 yrs old |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. The 'mag' was the Selectric Composer, wasn't it? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. True :-( |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Regular eye exams are a must! |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Heee hee hee! |
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KC21304 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
53. You're so right. Too many inconsistencies. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
60. Except |
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MallRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. The zealous idiot might be Karl Rove. |
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A_Possum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
83. If you think 60 Minutes are "zealous idiots" |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
4. Has ANY credible expert (not Drudge etc.) claimed based on analysis |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
50. No, Old Friend |
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wurzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
6. Were "letters" a deliberate plant? Another Niger? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Let's not lose sight of the fact |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Another forgery!!!!!! Email Drudge!!!! They didn't have capital letters |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. CBS has experts that |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. But does have CBS the originals or only copies? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Multiple copying makes things fuzzy but it can't alter spacing |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I was referring to the handwriting. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. go to |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. great logic in the posts, the right rather than the left likely "if" forge |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. Someone posted this last night: |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
20. There have to be other documents from that unit and that time |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. This is all the evidence I need: |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. actually it was Powerline Blog--freepers just circulated the rumor n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
25. More evidence that variable spaced fonts.. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. "Seven or eight possible models" had proportional spacing |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Maybe you should pass along.. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Is this the Selectric Composer Bouffard is referring to? |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
30. Has anyone considered the possibility that the PDF documents were OCR |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
31. One more reason not to believe they are foged.. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Exactly - WH knows they are genuine but are happy with the doubts - they |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
32. IBM Executive typewriter series info |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
56. Do you know if any of the IBM.. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I doubt they are 13 point, who is making that claim? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I'm sorry, I misread, but here is the claim.. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Unlikely that it is 13 point spacing. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
84. Yep. Copiers cause distortions in font and line |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
34. Please forward all this evidence to CBS! |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. How is it that the "experts" are not familiar with IBM typewriters |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
41. Does anybody know what "proportional spacing ... down the page" means? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Let me see if I can explain.. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Thank you. This raises some doubts about Flynn's motives. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
59. Centering the text on the page horizontally and vertically is a basic |
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ItsMyParty (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
44. From 1963-1966 I used the IBM Executive Typewriter |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
48. Here is the IBM font that made that memo |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Again, the "4" is different, it doesn't have a "closed top". n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. what about this one? |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Now the "4" is ok, but the "g" isn't. n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. We can always order.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Look at those LBJ phone transcripts.. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Nice find. I wonder how that typeface/font is called and how the |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
52. Someone posted this in another thread.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
55. Strong evidence that ABC's Independent "expert",... |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
58. REVIEW (this angle needs to be proved) |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. But if its the IBM executive then it didn't use |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. The guy who runs selectric.org.. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Do you have samples of the 3s and 4s |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Okay, then not a ball... but the face still has to MATCH |
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peacemeal (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
62. Another point |
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KOBUK (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
64. These can't be forged documents ! |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
65. More typed documents which resemble the Killian memos.. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Hi GGM. Can you point to one of these you think matches? I can't find one |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Proportional font |
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skip fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
74. Hell, this guy had more than 4 memos typed on that machine. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Yes, but how long will it take to get access to these files? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
77. Does anyone have information on this? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'm waiting to get more information on the.. |
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mememe (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
81. You've got an easy way to demonstrate your case |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-10-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. We've already agreed.. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-04 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
86. Evidence that the memos were typed on a Selectric Composer |
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Sven77 (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-11-04 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
87. dont know if this has been posted yet - Dailey Kos |
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