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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:17 AM
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Just Logged On This AM, But Has ANYONE Posted About Ralph Nader's
Uncle Tom comment on Fox last night! I was so infuriated by what he said and his downright nastiness when the local anchor actually asked him if he might not want to change his Uncle Tom reference. Nader went off on a rant that was so hateful that I have lost ALL respect for him.

Yes, I realize he's done many things in the past that were very positive and his issues have been forward thinking... but now he seems to have become a very, very "bitter" man!

Sorry if this has been talked about, but I wanted to listen to C-Span and hear the feed back from people around the nation.

Oh, and the only reason I heard the comment was because my default station is Fox and I wanted to check out our local candidates and how they were doing. Wish I had NEVER done that, but Sarasota County has yet to be called because it's 50-50 here. Well, it may have been called by now, but to have been THAT CLOSE in THIS COUNTY is... the correct words escape me!

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:18 AM
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1. Nader has lost his way.. totally.
How far the good and mighty can fall.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:18 AM
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2. someone posted it last night...unbelievable.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 AM
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7. I Would Like To See Replies To That Thread... Guess I Can Research It!
Now, I can finally use the word HOPE! A word I haven't used in over a year!! But Nader REALLY pissed me off and I couldn't believe the "hate" he was showing and going off on that guy!

He was simply AWFUL and I NEVER thought he would stoop so low!!!

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM
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3. Nader is part of the past. He know it and can't stand it n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM by n2doc
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM
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4. i have a puma friend who this morning sent a nasty email
to just throw water on Obama's victory.....some folks are never happy...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:20 AM
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5. Yes, someone posted a few hours ago. I lost all respect for this senile megalomaniacal loon
in 2000.

Your default station is Fox?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:20 AM
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6. This is DU, of course, so it has been posted
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:24 AM by Wickerman
and I'm certain multiple times. :rofl:

Here is a thread I am aware of:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7778935

Still steaming over that crap.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:23 AM
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9. Thank You... Was Just Going To Look For It.... n/t
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 AM
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8. Even Shepard Smith was appalled, along with the entire Panel on Fox
I was surprised. I was channel surfing just trying to get a sense of reactions, saw Nader and parked it on Fox. I was amazed at the reactions from the Fox people - they were positively appalled, which is surprising since I thought they would share the sentiment.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:36 AM
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12. I Couldn't Believe My Ears!!! I Have NEVER Watched Fox, But As I Said
my default channel is FOX and I just happened to switch just as he was talking. I wasn't SURE it was Nader until I saw his face. And The guy even ASKED him if he didn't want to re-think or retract what he said!

Ralph Nader got even more vitriolic and I sat there with my mouth open! It was truly awful to hear what he was saying. He even tried pissing off the anchor by saying he knew he was trying to "bait" him or something like that!

I wonder if Nader even knows what damage he's done to himself. NOW, I don't see how anyone could support him EVER AGAIN!!

Living in Florida, I have a special grievance against him... still had Gore won... we would have had Lieberman!! But Lieberman was DIFFERENT way back then! He's another back-stabber but it looks like the Democrats "may" have to put up with his "caucusing" with them!! I so wish they could "kick his ass" out of the Senate!!!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:42 AM
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14. Nader said all of that on purpose
He can't stand not playing some role in the elections and having his name brought up over and over again. This election, his role was minuscule, if at all and he had to do something to get his name back in the conversation.

This is the way he did it.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:49 AM
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15. Sorry, It Was A "Bad" Move No Matter HOW You Slice It!! As Far As I'm
concerned, he's TOAST!! He needs to crawl or slink back into obscurity!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:26 AM
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19. I don't disagree one bit , just saying that he did this to "shock" people
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 11:27 AM by TornadoTN
Just to get his name mentioned, since he's irrelevant.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:28 AM
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20. I would have stopped things right there and asked him to leave.
or if he was on a satellite, I would have told him that we were cutting him off, and let it go. Not even give the fuck a chance to elaborate. Just a.. "we're ending this RIGHT here" moment.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 AM
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10. I am truly disgusted by Nader now.
But not surprised. He took GOP money and meant to kneecap Obama and the Democratic party.

He needs to shuffle off and disappear. Really. I'm so sick of him.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 AM
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11. As someone who once voted for Ralph, I'm disappointed in his bitter comments.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:36 AM
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13. There is a video in Political videos and
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:51 AM
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16. Uncle Tom's Cabin - I never have read it... was Uncle Tom a
black overseer who was cruel to other blacks during the days of slavery? Is that the idea Nader was trying to get? I think he was trying to get a sound bite or slogan people could remember. Don't know why Uncle Tom is so insulting. Can somebody enlighten me? Nader's making assumptions about Obama which are overboard...

The rest of what he said about not having a living wage and holding Obama's feet to the fire with respect to standing up to multinational corporations I agree with. The Fox guy was insulting Nader by baiting him by saying he was statistically insignificant now.
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Frosty1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:07 AM
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17. Uncle Tom
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 11:09 AM by Avabea
Uncle Tom, a long-suffering Black slave around whom the stories of other characters—both fellow slaves and slave owners—revolve. The sentimental novel depicts the cruel reality of slavery while also asserting that Christian love can overcome something as destructive as enslavement of fellow human beings.

Uncle Tom is a pejorative for a black person who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to White American authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:17 PM
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21. Thanks, now I understand... boy Nader really is an idiot.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:12 AM
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18. The Green Party dumped him, he's getting old....
Thsi was probably his last shot.
We won't hear much more from him.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:39 PM
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22. Ya know....(got my tin foil on) ...I wonder about 'ole Ralph?
I wonder if he wasn't paid under the table to split the 2000 election? I used to like Ralph Nader.... now I'm not so sure he is on the level?
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