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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:11 AM
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527s should be required to show documents/data supporting their charges.
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 09:12 AM by blm
That's it.

If they submit an ad with no back up....it should be disallowed.

If they submit an ad with backing documents/data it should be allowed.

That should be the only argument.
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BOHICA06 Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:13 AM
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1. And who are you going to put
in charge of the TRUTH meter?

Dangerous ground being treaded here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:21 AM
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2. The ad sellers. They should require OFFICIAL documents to back up charges.
For example, there is now plenty of documentation that Bush did not serve as he was required in the National Guard. There is documentation that he was getting special treatment.

The SBV had NO official documentation to back their charges so they should have been refused.
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BOHICA06 Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:29 AM
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5. What's Official????
Have the FEC appoint an Official Guru to review the official documentation?

It's Free Speech .... if its actionable, take it to the courts, but please don't have the government be the arbiters of truth.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:37 AM
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8. The Ad Seller? Really?
You want Faux, MSNBC and CNN to be arbiters of the truth?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:39 AM
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10. If they accept an ad with no documentation then they bear a legal burden.
That should ensure more honest elections.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:11 AM
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12. So I guess your answer is
yes.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:48 AM
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13. Yep. Product ads are liable for false claims.
Ad buyers for networks run them through legal channels all the time.

Time for the same since 527s may be here to stay.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:15 PM
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14. How can an ad be liable? (eom)
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:23 AM
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3. The SBVs have affidavits out the wazzoo - what good does that do?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:27 AM
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4. The SBV had ZERO official documents.
Don't confuse affidavits with official documents. If a 527 is going to use an affidavit, then that affidavit needs an official document to back it up.

If Mr. French had been required to back up his affidavit, he wouldn't be in such hot water today for lying.
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:53 AM
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11. Many valid accusations are not backed up by "official" documents
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:33 AM
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6. Changing the law to make it easier to sue for defamation in political
advertising might be a better way to go. I would have the burden of proof of the truthfulness of the accusation placed on the defendant in a defamation suit based on political advertising and would not allow individuals to avoid liability behind anything like the corporate veil. I think this would curtail the most outrageous lies that are spread knowingly and intentionally.
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I_like_chicken Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:35 AM
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7. I think thats the responsiblity of the news media
To report whether or not the charges that 527s put out is true or not. Unfortunetely the media is not too reliable right now.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:38 AM
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9. Exactly
If they can't report on the truthfullness of an ad, they certainly can't be counted on to screen ads for their veracity before airing.
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