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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:08 AM
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Tweety thinks its over, says Cheney's message "the kill"
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 07:30 AM by bigskydem
On last nights hardball, as Tweety (Chris Mathews) moaned about the direction he and his pundit comrades have taken this campaign, he seemed to rationalize Cheney's "getting hit again" statement as the * team "going for the kill" on a Kerry campaign that is on the floor squirming.

His final comment was a nice window into the mind of Tweety:

He basically said that Kerry's message is that he would have implemented Bush's policies better than Bush.
Translation: He has no new ideas.

More of the FILTER at work.

Email the show with your comment: hardball@msnbc.com
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:10 AM
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1. Tweety's malaria treatments...
(If he ever HAD malaria) seem to have left him quite erratic.

He really should not be considered a credible source on much of anything.
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:26 AM
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10. Got and address for Tweety?
My big problem with him, and his buddies in the press wanting to drop this, is this stuff is shown to be true, the records are right there in front of them! They spent six weeks discussing what they themselves said was not provable and nasty political slime.

I'm not gonna risk my blood pressure anymore on cable news.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:11 AM
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2. E-mail Teeety
I saw that last nite and was so incensed that I sent him an e-mail.

You should do the same. It is totally bogus to be calling the election for Bush at this early stage.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:12 AM
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3. I did send a very angry e-mail last night
I told him that I for one did give a rat's butt about *'s military records!
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:14 AM
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4. emailed immediately
Many pundits out here are acting as if it is the morning after Nov 2.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:14 AM
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5. glad you brought this up. so critizism now, kerry policy
not different from bush. if this is kerry's position then i say fine. what tweety doesnt even get if kerry was into going into iraq there is still significants in doing it smart, and doing it stupid. tweety is acting like the simple fact that they would have both gone into iraq is end of the story. little sudtle things seems to be tough for tweety. to do it smart and competent, or do it stupid and incompetently is a big difference in the two

now we already see bush incompetence. we dont know whether kerry would be competent or not. but we do know bush isnt competent. why would you keep bush. why wouldnt you go for someone where there is at least a possibility for competence
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:15 AM
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6. Who is tweety?
Who is tweety and why is he called that and what's the main issue with him (is he a wingnut?). I should probably know this, but don't watch much tv.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:17 AM
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7. Chris Matthews on MSNBC Hardball
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:19 AM
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8. Tweety = Chris Mathews, MSNBC Hardball, nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:34 AM
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13. Actually, you asked the right question, but it should maybe be framed
who is Tweety and who the hell does he think he is telling us that the election is over.

Who do any of these so-called journalists think they are? What makes them think that they have the right or the knowledge to tell us anything? When the hell did they become so all-knowing and all-seeing that they can call the election slightly less than two months before it even happens? In fact, when did they acquire the powers to tell us anything? Where did they get the idea that we're all so brain dead that we need them to tell us how to vote, who to vote for, who is the best candidate, etc.? They are just supposed to ask questions and help us gather information, no more. When did they acquire such power of the American people that they now feel that we need them to tell us who to vote for, what's good for us, what a candidate is saying and what it means. When did they decide that we are just too damn stupid to understand any of this? Just ask questions, get us information, and be fair about it, that's all they should be doing. We can handle it from there.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:11 AM
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17. He's called Tweety because of his amazing resemblance
to the "Looney Tunes" character.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:20 AM
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9. Tweety thinks it's his job to APPLAUD GOP lies, not call out the liars.
Matthews is NO journalist.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:28 AM
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11. Cheney tweety!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:33 AM
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12. Not just Tweety all media whores talk like it's over for Kerry, Tweety is
an asshole.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:38 AM
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14. Tweety is a clueless twit. He's never right about anything.
Yet, he has no shame and continues to call himself a "pundit."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:45 AM
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15. I gave tweets a piece of my mind yesterday.
I am quitting his show cold turkey. I still think MSNBC is better than CNN, but I refuse to watch tweety. Wouldn't it be great if his ratings dropped while Olbermann's surged?
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:06 AM
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16. I am with you
Kerry's more passive approach to the war on tera? Polly want a cracker? I'm done!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:13 AM
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18. Any of you feel dumb for trusting the guy?
Coupla weeks ago, he was the toast of DU. Am I the only one who saw this coming?
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:15 AM
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19. Cheney IS a terrorist; he's now threatened the US
Take Cheney's quote and put Osama's name on it, and you would have grounds for a code-red terror alert.


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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:24 AM
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20. Tweety Makes A Point I Hear...
There are a lot of fence straddlers about this "war on terror". They aren't nuanced in much more than Arabs are Al Queda and visa versa. They like the idea of pre-emptive strike and the cowboy/macho games this regime played in the run-up to the Iraq invasion. They see Kerry and other "anti-war" types as the source of our weakness not the cause.

Kerry hasn't really articulated how his policy is different than the one there now. OK, so we get international help...but who? These people don't think the French or Russians or anyone will come in, or don't like the fact we will have to let them have some of the spoils of Iraqi oil for them to participate. They've grown up with the evil meme of those "Blue Hat/UN/French" types. Kerry hasn't sold these people that his approach will be any more effective than what's in place.

Tweety's point is that Cheney's trying to draw out Kerry into denying the use of a pre-emptive strike as a weapon of international policy (thus wouldn't strike first, would strike after struck...this is what he wants Kerry to step in) and how this regime's macho posture somehow makes us safer. For many, this trick could be a major deal-maker.

What still isn't clear...not to Tweety nor me nor anyone...is what priorities people have in voting this year. Is it security? Economy? Health Care? If it's the first and not the other two, Tweety is right in saying Kerry's in trouble...until he can clearly give a plan for the area that is drastically different than what's in place now. Kerry hasn't done it. Not that he can't, but this isn't one that can be articulate in cheap soundbites like Crashcart. In this game, the points go to the defender.
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