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Carl21014 Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:56 AM
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Why did Bush skip his Flight exam?
This is the inuendo them Dems have to hit out of the park.

If a football player missed a phyiscal, what conclusion would everyone jump to? Drugs!

Bush was snorting coke, just like he later did at Camp David while his father was President, and a urine test would land him in the brig.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:59 AM
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1. Coke
bush has said that before 74 or so he did Coke.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:08 AM
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2. Did not test for coke back then
There was no blood or piss test for coke or weed in the early 70's being given by the armed services
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:48 AM
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5. would * have known?
or been 100% sure?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:00 AM
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9. Yes, there was a drug test.
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 07:19 AM by ET Awful
I'll have to dig up the regulations again, but it was implemented prior to Bush's ordered physical.

EDIT: Found some references:

In April 1972 the Pentagon implemented a drug-abuse testing programme that required officers on "extended active duty", including reservists such as Bush, to undergo at least one random drug test every year. The annual medical exam that year included a routine analysis of urine, a close examination of the nasal cavities and specific questions about drugs.... Sunday Times (UK), 6/17/00

and:

In 1972 he asked to be transferred to an Alabama unit so he could work on a Senate campaign for a friend of his father's. But some skeptics have speculated that Bush might have dropped out to avoid being tested for drugs. Which is where Air Force Regulation 160-23, also known as the Medical Service Drug Abuse Testing Program, comes in. The new drug-testing effort was officially launched by the Air Force on April 21, 1972, following a Jan. 11, 1972, directive issued by the Department of Defense. That initiative, in response to increased drug use among soldiers in Vietnam, instructed the military branches to "establish the requirement for a systematic drug abuse testing program of all military personnel on active duty, effective 1 July 1972."

It's true that in 1972 Bush was not on "active" duty: His Texas Guard unit was never mobilized. But according to Maj. Jeff Washburn, the chief of the National Guard's substance abuse program, a random drug-testing program was born out of that regulation and administered to guardsmen such as Bush. The random tests were unrelated to the scheduled annual physical exams, such as the one that Bush failed to take in 1972, a failure that resulted in his grounding. http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/02/1676664.php

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Seems to me that knowing Bush has we do, even though there is a chance that his physical would not have included a drug test, we know Bush doesn't read, so if his friends told him about the new active duty regulation, I'd say it's a safe bet that he THOUGHT he would be tested and thus tried to avoid it.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:29 AM
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10. I love your Condi message Florida Geek...
Hope everything went well for you during the last couple of storms!

:toast:

:kick:
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:08 AM
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3. Drunk?
Stoned? I have wondered why they don't run with this one....
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RivetJoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:11 AM
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4. Drunk?
Just wait for a sober day. Stoned? The ANG didn't test for pot usage until the end of the VN war.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:49 AM
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6. Then there is that apochryphal story...
About the crashed TANG plane.

It's in a back issue of "Texas Monthly".
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:57 AM
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7. W disobeyed a direct order
to take that physical which is a Courts Martial Offense. Why wasn't he charged?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:51 AM
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13. For those of us who don't have convenient access to
"Texas Monthly", could you summarize the story? Did he crash a plane? Thanks!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:57 AM
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8. Somehow, this song comes to mind...
If you wanna hang out you've got to take her out, cocaine.
If you wanna get down, down on the ground, cocaine.

She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie
Cocaine!

If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues, cocaine.
When your day is done and you wanna run, cocaine.

She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie
Cocaine!

If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on, cocaine.
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back, cocaine.

She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie
Cocaine!
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:37 AM
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11. chimpy got stoned and he missed it.........
If memory serves correct the coke test back then would only show usage in the last two days or so.

This bozo couldn't clean up for two days to get by the man????
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:45 AM
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12. Because he's a terrible pilot. Afraid he'd crash. Remember that story...
...about him taking a friend up and nearly killing them both.
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manic Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:55 AM
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14. you bet I do - and here's a link
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:24 AM
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15. he's a danger wherever he goes...
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