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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:30 PM
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Deborah Norville asking if Iraq is winnable....
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 08:32 PM by Gloria
COL. Ken Allard and a military analyst named William Arkin, both NBC analsysts really doing a good job.

Countering Gen. Meyers.....

Arkin just said he supports getting the troops out of Iraq ASAP...
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:32 PM
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1. If you even have to ask...
you know what the answer is.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:08 PM
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12. you really have to wonder....why can't we hear a damn plan?
I fear the answer is ..this is it. This is the way they control all affairs going forward.

One world govt and wealth transfer. Control thru chaos.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:33 PM
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2. International Intelligence say NO and the U.S. has already lost the War!!!
I have a report I will posts some details in a new thread tomorrow.

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:34 PM
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4. Robert Fiske of The Independent (UK) said it months ago...that it was
lost

We control the Green Zone, if that....
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:33 PM
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3. She just brought up the fact that we were told there were 200,000
Iraqi troops...now revised to 95,000...

Arkin says whoever is elected in Nov...they will come up with a
"graceful" exit........

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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:35 PM
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5. What war? I thought the Mission was Accomplished? WTF? n/t
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:37 PM
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6. I believe we have lost that war--it will go nowhere and we will continue
the slaughter of innocent people, and the tragic loss of life of our own, as well as the people who we said we were going to "liberate" who are now the enemy for resisting our presence there--they have lost an enormous amount in a short year and half--their children, their families and yes their way of life is worse than it wasunder

Saddam with the great US occupiers in charge. The only ones who have won are Halliburton and it's subsidiaries as well as the hundreds of other American corporations who swooped down for the war profits.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:39 PM
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7. Allard just finished by blowing it...by saying that since 911 we are
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 08:40 PM by Gloria
determined to play "away" games and it's better to do it in Iraq than here. Jerk!! (implying, of course, that Saddam was a terrorist threat)

Norville had asked if we were "safer" as a result of Iraq...

Arkin, however, had previously just said that we've shifted the risk and that Saddam was a contained dictator and there was no rush to go after him...
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:41 PM
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8. Iraq is lost.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:56 PM
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11. . . . before it started n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:44 PM
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9. She's doing a decent job tonight
Toll in Iraq war a grim milestone
What does it mean that 1,000 Americans have died?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5933988/

Earlier she had a Mother who lost her son and a Father who lost his son and they were talking about not being able to go to Dover to meet their son's caskets. They said, they didn't mind if photos were shown of the flag drapped coffins in fact the Man who lost his son said photos like that should be shown everyday.

Sounds like Iraq fatigue.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:45 PM
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10. The war is lost . . .


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