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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:54 PM
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Florida to have federal poll watchers in Broward, Hillsborough, Miami-Dade and Pinellas counties.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:58 PM by madfloridian
Bill Nelson was one who pushed for the oversight and the election supervisors in those counties agreed.

From the Orlando Sentinel blog:

Nelson: Federal poll watchers OK'd for Florida

WASHINGTON -- Federal poll workers will be allowed to monitor the election in Florida on Tuesday, according to to U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat who has pushed for the oversight.

Here's what his office released earlier today: "Sen. Nelson has received word from the (Government Accountability Office) that it has gotten approvals from election supervisors in Broward, Hillsborough, Miami-Dade and Pinellas counties to place federal poll watchers at random precincts on Election Day to study voting access for seniors and people with disabilities."

The state initially balked at the idea, but has since reversed its position after lobbying from Nelson.


There are links at the blog for the letter Bill Nelson sent to Governor Crist, and the one Nelson received from the state.

We heard about this on October 30, but not much was said about it.

DOJ coming to monitor Florida elections.

The U.S. Justice Department announced it will send Election Day poll watchers to 59 different places in 23 states, including Hillsborough, Duval and Seminole counties.

Duval's supervisor of elections, Jerry Holland, said DOJ told him it was coming down because of the colossal blunder of the Republican National Committee in sending out weird mailers to Democrats that sought to raise money for John McCain and that identified them as Republicans. Democrats said this was an example of "voter caging." Holland said it wasn't. He checked it out. It was just sloppiness.

..."According to the DOJ press release:

"The observers and Department personnel will gather information on whether voters are subject to different voting qualifications or procedures on the basis of race, color, or membership in a language minority group; whether jurisdictions are complying with the minority language provisions of the Voting Rights Act; whether jurisdictions permit voters who are blind, disabled, or unable to read or write assistance by a person of their choice; whether jurisdictions allow voters who are blind to cast a private and independent ballot; and whether jurisdictions comply with the provisional ballot requirements of the Help America Vote Act. To assist in these inquiries, the Department has deployed observers and monitors who speak Spanish, and a variety of Asian and Native American languages. Both the federal observers and Department personnel will coordinate monitoring activities and maintain contact with local election officials."


That sounded to me like the very reason that the Florida Democrats filed a recent lawsuit.

The Florida Democratic Party on Thursday joined in a lawsuit aimed at the Republican Party of Florida and the Republican National Committee to prevent an excess of voter challenges during the presidential election.

Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen Thurman applauded Gov. Charlie Crist for extending early voting hours and urged him to warn his fellow Republicans against abusing their rights to challenge voters who, for instance, may not be voting at correct polling place.

"I call on the Governor, the Republican Party and voters of all parties across the Sunshine State to disavow these dishonest tactics so that we can rebuild Florida's electoral integrity and maintain the rights of our citizens to vote in a fair and open election," Thurman said.

The lawsuit was filed by residents of Glades and Duval counties. The Glades resident was targetted for a challenge by Republican in advance of the election.


There have been problems in those counties. Maybe it's a good thing. I just don't know.



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:02 PM
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1. I guess as long as these "poll watchers" are not in a uniform, and do not appear
intimidating in any way, it might be a good thing.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:13 PM
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2. but what if they are republican ideologues?
isn't that what doj consists of now? i hope obama keeps attorneys at those polls.

ellen fl
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:18 PM
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3. I know, I have concerns about all the DOJ problems.
I know what you mean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:44 PM
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4. Using the terms "seniors and disabled"....pardon me but that's a cop out of sorts.
This article says the same thing.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/11/feds-get-ok-to.html

Let's be honest...it should about making sure people are not disenfranchised....and not just seniors and disabled.

They are coming to four counties with a history of problems....and not just seniors and disabled.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 06:20 PM
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5. WFLA Tampa tonight was trying to paint Democrats as using voter fraud.
They did a whole segment, every talking point in the book, with Susan McManus leading the way. McManus is Jeb crony who pretends to be neutral.

Shame on this local NBC affiliate for doing this.

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:04 PM
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6. Here's hoping it turns out to be a good thing. nt
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:50 PM
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7. What about us in Volusia? We need 'em more than almost anyone....
"DELAND, Fla., Nov. 11 - Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official in Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department and learned that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000. But when she checked the county's Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore's count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000--all because of a single precinct with only 600 voters."

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:00 PM
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8. I remember that well.
Thanks for that link, I was looking for it the other night. Sad time.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:23 PM
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9. Poll WATCHERS. Yep, that about sums it up. Can they WATCH what's being recorded in those
voting machines at the polling places? While they're WATCHING can they tell if the machines are sending the correct vote totals to the Big Machine back at Voting Machine Central?

Will anybody be WATCHING those guys at Voting Machine Central? You know, the guys who helped Al Gore "donate" those votes to the Socialist candidate in Volusia County. I say let's get some poll WATCHERS over there. That would sure make me feel all better about having a "fair and open election."





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