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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:29 PM
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Some Vietnamese Americans breaking from tradition
Vietnamese Americans are traditionally Republican, but some say there's a move toward the left and a generational divide at play in this election
By Suzannah Gonzales
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Saturday, November 01, 2008

... Because of its association with the anti-communist position, the Republican Party has traditionally received the loyalty of Vietnamese Americans, a stance that distinguishes them from other Asian Americans, according to national researchers. But their loyalty to Republicans has started to dwindle this election cycle, researchers and local community members say, especially among younger Vietnamese Americans.

"I can definitely see it," Paul Nguyen , a 21-year-old senior at the University of Texas, said of the generational divide. "A lot of my friends' parents have Republican views, and a lot of my friends are Obama-crazy."

Nguyen said last week that he's undecided, but leaning toward Obama. He said his parents, who live in San Antonio, are strongly Republican.

Nhi Lieu , an assistant professor of American studies at the University of Texas, pointed to McCain's visit to Orange County, Calif., home of Little Saigon , several years ago, when he publicly used the term "gook," to refer to his North Vietnamese enemies. Though older Vietnamese were more forgiving, younger Vietnamese perceived it as a racial epithet, she said ...

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/nation/11/01/1101vietnamelections.html
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:41 PM
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1. "younger Vietnamese perceived it as a racial epithet" - No fuckwads. It IS a racial epithet...
Fucking fair n balanced apologists.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:30 AM
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13. This is all part of John McCain's history of racism. He is a racist period!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:41 PM
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2. I know a family of Vietnamese who own a Nail Salon.......
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 11:42 PM by FrenchieCat
and considering the financial hit that their shop has taken from the lack of customers recently......they are voting for Obama.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:42 PM
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3. Don't even get me started on the McCain gook BS
This got the POW card played INCESSANTLY! Just OMFG, hating on your Vietnamese jailers for their treatment of you means that you are justified in your hate of a particular ethnicity? JUST SO FUCKED UP.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:05 AM
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9. He never quite seemed to have realized that the Vietnamese shot him down,
imprisoned him, and tortured him because he was bombing their country.

I can state with absolute certainty that if he hadn't been bombing them, they wouldn't have shot them down. Blaming the vic, are we, John?
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icetea Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:42 PM
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4. well maybe because Vietnamese don't like being called gooks
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:43 PM
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5. A 21 yr old senior. Is undecided? How can a young man
who obviously must have some smarts. Be undecided in this election. I think my head is going to explode if I keep reading this nonsense.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:44 PM
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6. Republicans like white people, preferably with higher incomes but base voters
are cool for the vote and then you're dismissed.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:57 PM
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7. I went to college and law school with a daughter of Vietnamese immigrants
and she was (in addition to being ridiculously gorgeous) a diehard Democrat, We worked together in University DFL. Racial profiling in politics means nothing, except for Cubans in So. Fl.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:14 AM
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10. The demographic generalization may not be racial profiling: there was a wave
of Vietnamese immigrants as US involvement in Indochina ended, and the folk who were leaving Vietnam were generally those who had supported the American intervention -- so they were likely to dislike the anti-war Americans and to respond favorably to the god-guts-guns-glory crowd
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:00 AM
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8. Proudly voted for my Democratic State Rep candidate. Sandra Phuong VuLe
Her family and she immigrated from Vietnam in 1975.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:21 AM
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11. Cool! I knew there was a large Vietnamese immigrant community in Dallas from the mid-70s
but hadn't realized that that (once very rightwing insular & prejudiced city) had accepted the newcomers to that extent

Of course, she's lived in the US since she was 6
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:26 AM
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12. She is a lawyer. She has done a lot of pro bono work.
If she doesn't win against Angie Chen Button, I hope she gets close.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:51 AM
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14. Well, THAT"S a race that would simply have been impossible in Dallas forty years ago!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:52 AM
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15. ITA
Yeah for progress!

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