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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:46 PM
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Why are the Republicans touting the race is even?
New view on why the Republican machine is touting this race as tied:

Because they know they are getting blown out. They are setting up the ‘after election’ propaganda parade. They have already laid the foundation with the phony ACORN attack.

So they mention ACORN is stealing the election for Obama and then they begin to tout the ‘fact’ the race is tied and things are looking good for McCain, and all the polls we see showing otherwise are bogus. They will run with this ad nauseum until election night. I expect they will even call the election for McCain early in the day on the 4th. Republican hacks will come out of the woodwork basically skipping results and going right into analyzing President McCain’s coming 4 years.

Then the results will come in. The Republicans will be aghast. Haven’t you heard? This was McCain’s election. What happened? All ‘our polling’ numbers said the good Senator from Arizona had won. What the heck happened?

Enter ACORN (again). Even if the McCain KLAN is starring at a landslide Obama victory they will immediately begin to question the veracity of the election. Soon after that, stories will break showing ‘suspect’ voters, questionable ‘practices’, voter suppression of rich white people, and the like.

The entire month following the election of Obama will be marred with unfounded and scurrilously trumped up charges of election fraud from Democrats. Investigation will prove the charges bullshit and eventually we'll settle into the reality that Obama will be the next Prez. But, the right won't let it go. There will be just enough 'questionable confusion' to keep the far-right holding onto the belief the election was stolen by ACORN/Obama.

These gang of thugs will not go quietly into the night. They are setting the table for a real tantrum after next Tuesday.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:47 PM
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1. The more they talk about the race being even, the less true it is.
They would let the polls speak for themselves if the race were truly neck-and-neck.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:47 PM
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2. It's simpler than that.... they're trying to keep morale high.

In order to motivate people to GOTV.


That's all it is about.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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4. We'll see

Let's revisit this next week.
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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5. Exactly
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:51 PM by Stagecoach
I think what their internal polling is really telling them is enthusiasm is down and they're doing anything possible to rally the troops. It's like the tipping point has been reached, and they're doing all they can to stop from sliding down.


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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:50 PM
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10. Bingo.
It's pretty straight-forward.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:51 PM
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11. what else can they do?
"oh we're doomed dont bother to come out"?

much worry about nothing, since when did we start believing what republicans say?
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Smuckies Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:58 PM
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20. Yup....
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:33 PM
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26. Agree.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:51 PM
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29. Trying to salvage what's shaping up to be a
down-ballot catastrophe of epic, 1964-like proportions.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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3. Just one more big lie before their party goes bye-bye.
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 02:19 PM by tridim
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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6. Someone wise said, "Power won't give up without a fight."
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palintology Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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7. To avoid the "Bandwagon effect" ...
... many people like to vote for the winner.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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8. Cognitive dissonance...
They simply believe they are destined to win this and any information to the contrary is simply not to be believed...
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:49 PM
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9. GOTV
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:51 PM
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12. I think the more practical reason is that they don't want their side to get demoralized and stay ...
home on election day.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:00 PM
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22. Funny thing, 2 of the most diehard repugs I know
will be away from home on the 4th and will not be able to vote. We don't have early voting here and I know they didn't vote absentee. These 2 send me right-wing hate mail all the time.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:53 PM
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13. To keep their minions from
jumping off a ledge. At this point they're trying to not get killed in congressional races and that means getting the people to the polls.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:53 PM
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14. They're habitual liars.
Actually, that's an oversimplified answer. there are two kinds of Republican. The high-functioning ones, who are liars. And the low-functioning ones, who are deniers.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:54 PM
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15. They are worried about their supporters not showing up
They aren't spending on GOTV. So they need their folks to think they have a chance
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:54 PM
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16. Fair enough
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:55 PM by kwolf68
It's just a morale argument.

OK, it's possible both sides are right. Some Repukkes are doing this to keep morale high. That being said, the 'stolen election' meme is built right into this.

Again, I honestly believe we're going to be hearing A LOT more about ACORN on November 5th. Maybe Im just cynical and believe the Republicans are inherently corrupt, bankrupt and bordering on fascist.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:55 PM
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17. look, they have a lot more to loose from their "base"....
getting all bummed out and deciding to say "fuck it" and staying home than we do from our folks saying this is a done deal and I don't need to bother. If the pukes don't GOTV then they are going to disintegrate in the down ticket races so bad that OBama will have his giant mandate, and I think THAT is what all this lying about the polls is about....they won't be able to face life under a total DEMOCRATIC government.

Either way we are going to smoke these bastards and say what they will, we will have the responsibility of rebuilding what is left of our country...perhaps I can fly my flag again some day.








CHange, HOpe, OBama/BIden......!
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:55 PM
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18. This is the last push. Happens in the death throes of every campaign
unadulterated fantasy of "victory is around the corner!" Hillary had a same "we're the comeback kids, we are winning!" phase when it was clear that it was over. Now it is McTroll's turn.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:00 PM
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21. hell... in 1988, I remember being told "don't believe the polls, we're closing in!" by the Dukakis
campaign.
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:02 PM
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24. I remember that year clearly
The night before the election that year I was watching "Nightline" and hearing Jeff Greenfield reporting from a Democrat rally, saying, "The Democrats are fired up....they feel they're going to make a big comeback".
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 01:57 PM
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19. As I said in another post
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 01:59 PM by Stagecoach
We've reached the tipping point. The remaining stump speeches aren't going to do anything....they're just 3 days of window-dressing.

What we're looking at right now is 6-8 point race, obviously in favor of Obama....and by saying the race is even, it keeps that 6-8 point difference from becoming a 10 to 15 point difference on Tuesday night.

It's about maintain a respectable finish instead of a blowout. That way McCain can try doing like Hillary did and say something to the effect of, "I had x amount of votes and I'm going to see to it those x amount of people are going to be heard!"
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:01 PM
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23. TYPO -- second to last paragraph -- Obama will be marred with trumped up charges from DEMOCRATS ????
The only charges of election fraud by Democrats are against the clear GOP tactics designed to reduce the numbers of DEMOCRATS voting. The election fraud Democrats have been tracking are techniques the Republicans have been using since 2000, documented by lots of election integrity groups.

VOTER FRAUD, the ACORN stuff, is what Republicans have been trying to push. The Bush Dept of Justice tried to trump up some legal cases so they'd actually have something to show for their accusations. BUT most DOJ attorneys would not take the cases because there was not enough evidence. So the Republicans FIRED THOSE ATTORNEYS.

Without any real legal cases to show there was a serious problem with fake voter registrations causing fake votes, the Republicans had to stir up a storm in the press to make people think there is a problem with fakes.

The reason they do that is so that people won't complain when they station people at polling places in DEMOCRATIC precincts to challenge voter registrations. This is not really to be sure things are honest. It is designed to SLOW DOWN THE VOTING so lines take hours, as was done in Ohio 2004.

REPUBLICANS have accused Democrats of voter fraud, which is the kind of fraud resulting from fake registrations.

DEMOCRATS have documented some Republican election manipulations through a variety of techniques, including voter misdirection via robocalls and fliers, purging voter rolls (some of those attempts have been stopped in court this time), electronic fraud (whistleblower reports linked at Brad Blog), and Republican Secretaries of State allocating fewer machines to Democratic precincts to slow things down.

IF OBAMA IS ALLOWED HIS VICTORY, I don't think Democrats will be challenging the results. They will just continue efforts to clean up electronic voting by requiring open source code, paper trails subject to random auditing, and other measures to be sure future elections are as fair as possible.

IF OBAMA IS DENIED the victory the polls are all pointing toward, I certainly hope the public demands checking the numbers, counting provisional ballots and other measures.

SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN VOTER FRAUD ALLEGATIONS may be designed to create a shadow of illegitimacy on the Obama administration. Get people thinking he didn't win fair and square. He did it with the help of those darned community organizers, they will imply.

BIG PROBLEM? No legal evidence of that. DOJ attorneys fired for refusing to take trumped up cases against ACORN.

Whereas, there's quite a lot of documentation of GOP election stealing methods. Great calm (i.e. not overly dramatic,) comprehensive documentary is now available for free download

www.stealingamericathemovie.org ,if you are not familiar with the SEVERAL METHODS Republicans have used to manipulate election results in 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:10 PM
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25. Let's hope Loserman (of Sore Loserman fame) will be on the losing side again!
It would be some justice if Lieberman ends up losing twice by switching sides!
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:34 PM
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27. It is better than saying they are losing
All campaigns that are down will say that they are tied or gaining momentum before the election.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:37 PM
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28. Agreed. They are setting up to contest the election if it is at ALL close.
And if they contest this, there will be unbelievable hell to pay. See this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=4293494
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