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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:01 AM
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Daily Kos (Research 2000) Poll: Obama 51 (+1), McCain 45 (no change)
OH MY GOSH IT'S TIGHTENING!!!! NOT!

internals...http://www.dailykos.com/dailypoll/2008/10/31
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:03 AM
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1. Yesterday's Results

DATE MCCAIN OBAMA BARR NADER OTHER UND
10/30 44 52 1 1 1 1
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:42 AM
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16. No, it was Obama 50 yesterday McCain 45
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 06:43 AM by MoJoWorkin
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:43 AM
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17. I Am Talking About The One Day Result From Yesterday
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:44 AM
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20. ok
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:44 AM
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18. When he says "yesterday's results"...
...he means the polling data from yesterday's surveys.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:55 AM
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22. 52-44 Is Encouraging Though The MOE For One DayI Is 5%
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:04 AM
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2. Another day gone.
Mr McCain, time's running out! :D

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:26 AM
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8. That's the key point...
As of yesterday, the Pollster.com "poll of polls" had O +5.9%. For McCain to catch up (and I know it's the state polls that matter, but indulge me by granting that the national trackers may give a clue to where the state results may be going as well), he would need to shave a little less than 1.2% off Obama's lead every day between today and Election Day. Every day that the results either don't change or move in Obama's direction makes the task that much harder. (For example, if today's overall result is unchanged, McCain has to make up 1.5% every day thereafter; if tomorrow is likewise unchanged, that jumps to 2%, and so on.)



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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:05 AM
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3. DailyKos O+1, Zogby no change - I like the start of the polling day. nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:06 AM
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4. Looks like it my have been statistical noise or maybe the infomercial had an effect?
Obama is holding steady.

I'm waiting for Rasmussen. He had Obama at 51 yesterday.

I think Obama needs to be at around 51 and he'll be OK. I don't want to rely on undecideds, who I believe are mostly pissed off conservatives anyways. That's why I think McCain has inched upward this week taking a few undecideds....

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:17 AM
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6. Look at the daily numbers...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 06:19 AM by regnaD kciN
PRE-INFOMERCIAL

Tuesday +5
Wednesday +5

POST-INFOMERCIAL

Thursday +8

Now, indeed, it may be statistical noise...but Obama hasn't had a polling day that high in this poll since, I believe, last Saturday. More to the point, it would appear that it had more to do with Obama gaining strength, rather than McCain losing it, since yesterday's numbers were O 52 - M 44. Still too early to tell, but not a bad sign.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:06 AM
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5. I am not sure about their demographics

Democrats 35%
Republicans 26%
Independents 30%

They sample 9% more Dems than Repubs? That seems a little hight to me.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:22 AM
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7. They skew a bit toward Democrats...
...since that 9% difference is a bit more than the 6%-7% you'll find in most polls. However, the crucial issue is day-to-day variances within the same poll. Over the course of the past five days, Obama's lead in this poll narrowed dramatically, from +11 to +5. Now, it seems to be going up again (especially in terms of the daily numbers).

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:30 AM
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9. "Obama's lead in this poll narrowed dramatically"
I disagree...Obama went from an average 7-7.5 point lead to now a 5.5-6 point lead in the past week and now things are stable and even a little uptick for Obama....Are you saying that the daily tracking polls had Obama with a 11 point lead on average? NO WAY.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:38 AM
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15. You're not reading what I wrote...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 06:42 AM by regnaD kciN
I mentioned the results "in this poll" (i.e. dKos/R2K). Until Monday morning, it had been the most reliably favorable-to-Obama tracker out there, with a double-digit overall lead, and daily results as high as O+14. Then, over the weekend, the individual daily result dropped from +11 (Friday polling) down to +9 (Saturday) and +5 (Sunday), followed by +6, +5, +5, as the overall "topline" also dropped from 52-41 (Sunday's release) to 50-45 (yesterday's). Today is the first overall uptick, and the first daily result outside the 5-6 point margin, in the past week.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:44 AM
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19. understood...
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:32 AM
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10. Real Clear Politics' aggregate poll is a little down O +6.2 yesterdat O +5.9 today n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:33 AM
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11. That's because...
of the FOX poll that came out yesterday, right?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:35 AM
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12. they dropped the pew poll. Intentionally to lower the average
because Pew + CBS would have bumped the lead too much.


They have no consistent standard for holding onto polls.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:38 AM
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14. I think they drop results as they age. Pew's last numbers were from 10/26
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:44 AM
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21. And no consistent standard for deciding which polls to include...
As the Kos/R2K poll is dead to the RCP folks.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 06:37 AM
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13. Yes, they include Fox's O +3 poll along with 9 others
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