OMG. My niece in GA - who is an ardent Obama supporter - just received this email

[hisownpetard]

from someone in FLA.



Dear Fellow Business Owners

As a Business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the
fact that Barack Obama, wll be our next President, and that my Taxes and
Fees, will go up in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure, that the Customer, will have to
see an increase in my fees to them of about, 8%. I will also have to lay off
6 of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family,here
and did'nt know how to choose who will have to go.


So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found, 8 Obama
bumper stickers on my employees cars. I have decided these folks will be the
first to be laid off.

I can't think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have a
better idea, let me know.


I am sending this letter to all Business owners that I know.

Sincerely
Ward
JOOA Corp.

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(End of letter)

How in the world to you combat such ignorance, especially with the election just days away?
Has anyone else seen or heard of letters like this going around?

I swear, I hate Republicans. I know it's not good or right, but I can't help myself any more.


:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[rcrush]

1. Maybe it wasnt a good idea to put that idea in writing

And send it out in an email so he can get sued.

[Azlady]

27. Several things here,

1. Obama MAIN office needs to contacted about this message.

2. I researched the Joop Corp and could not find anything, but still looking.

3. IF and that is a BIG ASS IF... this corporation is in fact real, I believe that if they fire someone for their political beliefs, they are breaking the law... can anyone confirm that and then make a seperate post?

4. I would email your friend, I would let her know that there are people researching this email message so that she can better respond to it. I'm going to keep looking for the corporation.

There is also a link on Obama's webpage on how to report these type of smears that McFalin is doing.

Azlady

[NCDemMom]

44. It just a bogus email to try to prove a point and get everyone in an uproar.

Ignore the stupid fucker.

[Laelth]

58. I can only speak for GA, but lots of other states have similar laws.

It is not a crime to fire someone for their politics in GA, nor is it a tort of any kind, nor is it a breach of a worker's rights. Under federal law, you can not be fired for your race, skin color, religion, national origin, or sex. But employers are free to fire employees for any other reason, at will, without the employee having any recourse other than the employee's being entitled to unemployment benefits.

I suspect that the employer described above would be completely within his rights to fire employees who did not share his political beliefs, and those employees would have no recourse beyond unemployment benefits, unless, of course, the employees were unionized and under a contract that specifies otherwise.

Sad but true. This kind of legal regime is what makes GA a "business-friendly" state. When you see those charts listing the "best places to do business in America," what you're seeing is a list of the worst places to be a worker.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[girl gone mad]

70. This isn't real.

Variations of it have been going around blogs and e-mail for several days.

ETA my response: I expect I will be significantly expanding my small business, thanks to the generous tax cuts my customers will receive from Obama's plan. After Obama's $3000 tax credit for each new American job created goes into effect, we will be hiring over a dozen new employees. Please forward my e-mail address to your Obama supporting employees. Republicans need not apply.

[stray cat]

2. Lawsuit - keep the email

[beachmom]

13. Wrong. You can be fired for any reason, including your political beliefs.

Remember the woman who lost her job for having a Kerry bumper sticker in '04?

[Samantha]

23. If you are an AT WILL employee - n/t

[MattBaggins]

48. Wrong you can't be fired for any reason they feel like.

[Hamlette]

49. If the employer receives any benefit from the WIA he cannot discriminate on basis of politics

(WIA being Workforce Investment Act which would include lots of benefits to employer like posting at "Job Service" etc.)

WIA is different from several anti discrimination acts in that it includes politics where several others do not.

[TomInTib]

3. If spelling and/or punctuation had been his criteria, he would have been the first to go.

What is it with these people?

Hell, I am as uneducated as it gets and I can do better than that.

[WindRiverMan]

4. First of all, I think it's illegal and intimidation and should be reported.

Secondly, why not reply to the asshole and tell him that if all of these "small business" owners would quit thinking they were Lee fucking Iocaca, and live within THEIR means, maybe they could pay thier employees a livable wage.

[kysrsoze]

9. It's not a real company. It's another B.S. scam email.

[kysrsoze]

5. Tell her to respond that this would be really sad if JOOA Corp actually existed

FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!!! Drive it home. Lies, lies, lies! This crap is easy to beat.

[Realityhack]

62. best answer so far. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. OK, go to the Obama site and report it!

[hisownpetard]

21. Good idea. I will!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

41. Great!

[KsStorm]

68. How?

Do you do that? I got a stupid email today too.

[fed_up_mother]

7. A 3% increase n taxes over $250,000 is going to cause this? Bullshit.

Yep, it's ignorance, all right.

[JuniperLea]

8. Totally against the law...

Big bucks too...

[StClone]

Lies of Desperation

My son gets two to three junk mail fliers attacking Obama daily. He writes "Return to Sender" on each and throws them back in the mail box. BAM!

[Faygo Kid]

10. Seems to be an urban legend. No one can find this "JOOA Corp."

All over the internet, but it's bull. No evidence of this being real.

[medeak]

11. it seems to be making the rounds

http://www.politicalkoolaid.com/weblog/humor/fair-layoffs-at-jooa-corp/

[asdjrocky]

12. What a stupid, stupid man.

Wonder if he realizes that he just opened himself up huge. But then, someone that stupid is undoubtably a liar, so he probably has no one he can lay off.

[BlueIdaho]

14. Operation Chaos... nm.

[mrcheerful]

15. Dear mr business man I recieved your e mail chain letter and have decided

that after the last 8 years of giving you corporate welfare, you thank me by threats. In that case mr business man, I will take my business else where and advise all my family and friends to do the same. I hope you are happy that soon you won't have a business nor will you get anymore corporate welfare. Have a nice life doing without like the rest of us have learned to do.

[Cha]

16. Greatest page..Rec'd~

:nuke:

[hisownpetard]

24. Before I saw the responses here, I sent my niece the Obama Tax Calculator and asked her to forward

it to anyone and everyone she knows in Fla.

Oooh, my blood pressure is through the roof...

[Cha]

56. Is it going to be FEAR and LIES or

HOPE and INTELLIGENT LIFE?

Soon we will know.

[jillan]

17. It's just more scare tactics.

Ignore it.

[depakid]

18. Sounds like he's not a very smart businessperson

That long with being the typical sort of jerk one runs into in that region of the country.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

19. Ward @ JOOA Corp...if there really is such a person...needs to go blow it out of his ASS.

If you Google this, you'll find a plethora of wannabe detectives who "couldn't find any business named JOOA Corp" via Google.

It's not on Snopes.com yet, but I'm thinking this is in the ballpark of "Ashley Todd."

:eyes:

[scheming daemons]

20. I got this email too.... it's a fake. There is no JOOA Corp.

[TheWraith]

22. Tell her that if such a person actually did that, it would be a federal crime.

Firing someone for their political views is INCREDIBLY illegal and would guaranteeably result in the fired employees either getting their jobs back or receiving a very large cash settlement.

That said, there is no JOOA Corp in existence. The whole thing is pure falsehood and propaganda.

[endthewar]

25. This business owner would just go out of business

Hence the beauty of capitalism in weeding out idiots like this.

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. Blatant discrimination

[Tuvok Obama]

28. Not enough commas

The way I figure it, if a guy, who chain smokes, and eats ten pounds of fried foods, every day, has to take a breath, every few seconds, just to stay conscious, he's going to write the same way.

[JohnnyRingo]

36. Hahahahaa... Thank you

A good laugh brought me back down to Earth.
I like your style, welcome to DU.

On edit...
I went back and reread it, and laughed again.

[Laelth]

59. Welcome to DU!

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[hisownpetard]

64. Hilarious response!

Welcome, to, DU, Tuvok.

[ddeclue]

29. It's classic voter intimidation.

According to sunbiz.org which is the State of Florida website for information of Florida Corporations, there IS NO JOOA Corporation. You can look this up for yourself.

This is just dirty tricks intimidation and if you ever get fired for your political affiliation take it to the media and destroy your former boss's business. No doubt he doesn't want to see a 50% or better reduction in revenues as Democrats boycott him for firing a Democrat for BEING a Democrat.

Let your dirty trickster friend know these two little tidbits and they'll shut right up.

Doug D.

[endelfam]

30. Why not sent this to....

KO?

[AtomicKitten]

31. I hope the targeted employees hang on to the email so they can sue his ass

for unlawful firing if that occurs.

[JohnnyRingo]

32. That dirty rotten motherfucker

That cocksucking son of a filthy whore.

I hate to say how much this pisses me off, but to begin with, the fact that he picks and chooses who to lay off based on their political leanings show what kind of a businessman he is. Does he spurn Democratic customers and their money as well?

That this economic giant of a prick assumes he can raise his prices 8% just because his candidate didn't win shows more of his business acumen than his partisanship. Does he assume customers have no choice but to pay the increase? Then why didn't he do it before? He could have had an even better year than the wonderful Buxh economy already gave him.

Then he makes the ridiculous statement that he'll lay people off regardless of demand for his product. Who's going to do the work, you fucking moran? Are you going to replace those workers with people who take a loyalty oath?

I hope this lowlife bastard goes belly up and ends up on welfare. Better yet, I hope he gets a stack of discrimination lawsuits first.

Pardon my language, but as a lifelong union worker, I haven't had someone make me this mad in a while.

On edit...
I searched this company, and only found many more examples of the email. Either it was written by some freep living in his mom's basement, or the cowardly prick wisely changed the name of his business. Whichever, I'm sure there are plenty of Buxhbot business owners who are thinking the same thing.

[sufrommich]

33. It's a hoax,there is no such business. If you Google it,

all you will find is other emails of the same kind.

[nichomachus]

34. If anyone really does this, just pick up a pen and paper

write to the IRS and tell them you suspect he's cheating on his income taxes. He probably is, and you'll get 10 percent for turning him in. Even if he's not, he'll get a visit and an audit.

There are a million other ways, legal ways, that you can make his business life a living hell.

[Triana]

35. send the message INCLUDING THE HEADERS to the Obama campaign...

[e-mail]

[hisownpetard]

63. I did. Thanks for the link!

[ismnotwasm]

37. What an ass

Full of shit too.

Do these assholes ever bring up health insurance? decent wages or cost of living pay raises? Job security? Support for the FMLA? Nope. All repukes can say is taxes taxes taxes taxes or "I got mine so fuck you", in the case of this no doubt shitty job with a shitty boss.

[vanderBeth]

38. Can you say comma splice?

[1776Forever]

39. From Obama website on Small Business - Link........

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business

Support Small Business

* Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will eliminate all capital gains taxes on start-up and small businesses to encourage innovation and job creation. Obama and Biden will also support small business owners by providing a $500 “Making Work Pay” tax credit to almost every worker in America. Self-employed small business owners pay both the employee and the employer side of the payroll tax, and this measure will reduce the burdens of this double taxation.

* Create a National Network of Public-Private Business Incubators: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will support entrepreneurship and spur job growth by creating a national network of public-private business incubators. Business incubators facilitate the critical work of entrepreneurs in creating start-up companies. Obama and Biden will invest $250 million per year to increase the number and size of incubators in disadvantaged communities throughout the country.

[KatyaR]

40. It may be a hoax, but unfortunately a lot of people feel this way.

I work with an entire company of them--you can the Democrats that work there on 1-1/2 hands. And they all claim to be Christians but are FULL of hatred, let me tell you. I can't decide which will be worse next week--if we win or if we lose.

I can't wait for this election to be DONE! :scared:

[Mabus]

42. Let me guess, the "J" in JOOA is for "Joe"

And now we all know why he wasn't at McCain's rally today. He was typing up an e-mail about another one of the businesses he owns/is going to buy. :rofl:

[and-justice-for-all]

43. fear mongering and exaggerations...nt

[formercia]

45. I wish there were man-eating parrots

so I could say: "Polly want a cracker?"

[grantcart]

46. If true he doesn't have to worry about laying people off he doesn't have

enough brains to stay in business.

[Monk06]

47. I'm a business owner. I'm a plumber. I'm an Iraq vet. I'm a lifelong democrat. Yada yada yada.

[Boo Boo]

50. Yeah... right.

:eyes:

[TheKentuckian]

51. What a dumbass!

He first off is planning to gouge prices. He states that he will raise his prices 8% to cover the 3% above 250k. That's some funny math that likely results in reduced volume and lower profits.

Then he'll be reducing his capacity by 20% by getting six out of thirty people which means he's insane. I'm very doubtful he has 20% more people than he needs to effectively run his company because he has proven to be a greedy prick. Diminished capacity and overburdened employees will further hamper his ability to remain competitive.

Next, he has went on a political witch hunt that ignores the capabilities of the individuals in play, which probably means he will be eliminating his smartest people that are most willing to sacrifice for the greater good AND has opened himself up to crushing lawsuits and large unemployment payouts, even in an at will situation.

This guy couldn't run a lemonade stand.

[The Backlash Cometh]

52. What have I been telling you all about Florida?

It's common for them to retaliate against you in business. The businessman has his own power and he knows how to use it. He'll threaten to relocate his business from the small city if the city doesn't do what he wants, he'll fire his employees for political reasons; in business organizations, like the Rotary Club, they may even talk amongst themselves and trash other people's children so that, through the grapevine, the child loses considerations for awards in the nearby high school which might give him leadership recognition.

Is it like that in other states?

[apnu]

53. Yeah that shit has been passed around by management in my company too.

I responded:

"I hope 'Ward' will enjoy the lawsuits focused on wrongful dismissal due to political harassment. I'm sure his remaining employees will like the unemployment lines when his company folds."

I'm still waiting for a reply.

[Flabbergasted]

54. Bogus and even if this was written by a business owner....

no one would actually fire employees and raise fees until they actually saw the numbers and bwo then determined that it was necessary to maintain a profit margin.

Either totally false, or paranoid lunacy.

[JerseygirlCT]

55. Well, he may very well be losing the most intelligent of his

employees, so it's probably going to hurt his business.

[cmf]

57. I was going to reply the same thing.

What an idiot.

[LiberalAndProud]

60. Funny. I've already had to increase my fees to pay for fuel.

I want to fire Exxon-Mobile. Can you think of a way to approach this problem?

Didn't I hear something about record-breaking profits in a time of economic downturn? Who's the redistributor here?

[Redstone]

61. How fucking characteristcially illiterate is that bullshit "message?"

First, the pointless and incostitent captilaziation.

Second, "thru?"

Third, a Google search of "JOOA Corp" returns ONLY copies of this bullshit "story," and NO actual company.

Shades of the "burly E-6" on the airplane, yes?

Redstone

[crazy_vanilla]

65. oh, he is about as real a business owner as "Joe the PlumbAss"

another fake to join all the other fakes on McAsswipe's side

[uppityperson]

66. send back "why do you hate america?" I am looking forward to Tues

[hisownpetard]

67. THANK YOU, everyone, for your responses to this OP. DU is such an amazing place.

Within minutes of posting this, there were multiple posts which informed me that this
is evidently a bogus letter that is making the rounds. People researched it and came back
to say that the company is a fake. Other people responded with links where I could (and did)
report the smear to Obama's campaign.

All within minutes. I'll tell ya, these internet tube thingies are just amazin'- but DUers
are the best!

Thanks again.

[baldguy]

69. JOOA Corp is a big company.

It not only has locations in FL, but they're in IN, AZ, NV, OH, PA, MI, GA, CA and - get this - Iran.

http://www.google.com/search?q=JOOA+Corp&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=KdP&sa=2