Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why does Obama keep giving McCain for "breaking with Bush" on torture?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:28 AM
Original message
Why does Obama keep giving McCain for "breaking with Bush" on torture?
McCain went back on his stance on that, didn't he? I thought he voted to allow torture "in special circumstances" through signing statements, didn't he?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
1. Because initially McCain "STOOD UP" against torture. However, later he folded like a cheap suit.
Obama always shines best when he keeps it civil. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
2. Because it makes the repuke base mad. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
3. Exactly. let the surrogates mention the "el foldo" (Sorry, Cubs fans)
While the Big Guy keeps it civil, playing to his own strength.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
4. I don't understand your title.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. In Obama's speeches, he always gives McCain credit for disagreeing with Bush
on torture-for being against it. But in the end, he was NOT against it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. "Credit" is the missing word, then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
5. Yes he did. But perhaps the Obama team finds that incredible
and doesn't want people to think they're making up a smear.

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

I was really shocked when McPanic changed his tune on torture.

That was like tossing out any concern he might have for our troops' welfare or our national honor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
6. Very clever campaigning IMO. Saying something positive about your opponent
plays well with many voters, Independents especially, who are then able to contrast that with the anger and negativity coming from McCain.

Secondly, it helps remind voters how far off track the current Administration and nearly all other Republicans have gotten by allowing something as "unAmerican" as torture.

Obama knows what he is doing with this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:39 AM
Response to Original message
8. Because the GOP would make him look weak on Terror,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
9. People opposed to torture are voting for Obama anyway. He is reminding the rest that McCain also...

... opposed torture at one time. McCain's biggest problem this year has been the dislike by his fellow Conservatives. So Obama reminds torture loving Conservatives that they can not trust McCain.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smoochpooch Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
10. I think he's preparing to take office and wants to appear as bi-partisan as possible.
Sen. Obama wants the American people to give Pres. Obama the benefit of the doubt once he takes office, and it gives people confidence in his leadership when he can acknowledge when an opponent has done the right thing.

Hopefully, Obama will stop the use of torture, and by drawing attention to the fact that McCain has agreed with him on the issue, when he does so the American people are more likely to believe that it's the right thing to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
12. It's Obama's way of leading into a severe attack that's coming up next for McCain during his speech
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 12:16 PM by mtnsnake
It's great strategy to make it look like he's complimenting McCain for the one and only thing he's good for before laying into him. After he gives him his fleeting compliment, Obama proceeds to hand McCain his ass on a silver platter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 02:05 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC