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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:12 PM
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I don't fear Obama will lose.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 11:15 PM by Drunken Irishman
I think this election has gone past the tipping point and if McCain had any chance of a comeback, it would have needed to start last week. It didn't.

My fear, though, is not that Obama will lose, but that the win will be close. I don't want a close victory. I want a blowout. I want this to be over by 9:00 EST. I want them to be talking about realignment, an ideological shift. I want Obama to be swept into office for we don't have to hear over and over again how he barely did it and then have to deal with the fact the country still remains split down the middle. If Obama can win with over 50% of the vote and dominate in the electoral college, it will send the message that the past eight years have been disastrous for America and that now is the time to refocus and alter the future of this country. Moments like that have rarely happened and in fact, the last epic shift was FDR's victory over Hoover.

We need that.

So I do not fear Obama will lose, no I think he will win. But I don't want it to be a tight victory. That's why I'm concerned and why I'm nervous for Tuesday.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:14 PM
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1. Point very well taken
but I'm thinking the margin of victory will be too significant for any jackass on the right to spin into irrelevance. Of course, they will try.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:15 PM
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2. Break. Their. Fucking. Backs.
Make them cry. Make them not want to play any more.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:17 PM
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5. grind salt into their ashes, and throw them into the wind...
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:22 PM
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10. May they eat their nasty robo calls for MONTHS!
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:41 PM
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15. More than this
and worse pain to them yet ... rally the people to our banner, and sally forth to craft a better future. Through success, make them irrelevant forever.

We can do this. But be under no illusions. When Obama takes the lead in January, the work has only just begun.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:16 PM
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3. Shit, Bush barely won and claimed a mandate. I think it would be hard not to
give Barack the same status after that - no matter if it's closer than the polls look right now.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:16 PM
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4. Obama is probably going to win very big. It's not going to be close
Notice how the press has started to wrap it up, starting today?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:19 PM
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6. I want veto-proof majority
we really, really need that
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:19 PM
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7. Ponder a few very shocking stats....poll info to help you feel better.
Montana. 2000 - 58-33 Bush. 2004 - 59-39 Bush. Current polling - TIED

North Dakota. 2000 - 61-33 Bush. 2004 - 63-36 Bush. Current polling - TIED

Think about that!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:20 PM
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8. We must all focus on this image....
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:21 PM
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9. Even the most modest polls indicate a landslide - now all there is : GOTV/nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:22 PM
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11. We have to compensate for voter supression, vote flipping and whatever else
the repugs have up their sleeves.
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:23 PM
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12. I'm fine with the adjectives
smoldering, decimated, defunct, extinguished, obselete sitting right beside 'republican' come Nov. 4.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:26 PM
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13. Unless something massively spactacularly helpful to the McCain campaign happens this week
My prediction is that Obama will probably win by a substantial but perhaps not overwhelming margin (i.e. 290-300). I just have a hard time believing that it will be close (and probably not even close enough to plausibly steal- the corporate media can parrot the "close race" meme until they're blue in the face- they will still have to show us the numbers which probably won't reflect such an assertion). I don't ever remember so many "RED" states being in play as there are this year (heck, even ARIZONA may be "in play") and trending Democratic nor have so many Republicans endorsed our candidate so it's pretty hard to believe that McCain/Palin will "run the tables" as long as plenty people turn out to vote (which by all indications they are- with unbridled enthusiasm) which is what would apparently need to happen for McCain/Palin to eke out a slim victory at best.

Let's face it, McCain f***** up big time by nominating Palin, which, based on all of the evidence that I've observed, both anecdotal and otherwise, has caused a serious shift in people from McCain to Obama including even prominent Republicans and conservatives who probably would've held their noses and voted McCain in the end. McCain's choice of Palin for VP seems to have activated the "thinking centers" in a lot of moderate/conservative (but non-fundie) Republicans and alarmed them enough to decide to vote for Obama instead. Although I believe Obama would still win on his own merits, we have become the benefactor of an unusually generous gift from McCain in the form of Sarah Palin.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:31 PM
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14. I'll you what. If he does lose. There are going to be a lot of depressed people in this country and
around the world. Especially Europe.

He would be winning by 40 points if he were running in any of our ally countries. But this country is full of fools who gave the world Dubya TWICE.

So we'll see
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:51 AM
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16. I'm 100% with you on that! A blow-out would be just fine with me.
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