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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:18 PM
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ABCCBSNBCNYTLATWSJCNN MSNBCAPREUTERSAFPPOLITCO FTTIMEWASHPOSTNEWSWEEK: CAN THEY ALL BE WRONG?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:20 PM by Occam Bandage


That is the headline at Drudge right now. The picture above appears as well. Neither links to any article. There are no clues as to what he might possibly mean. Does anyone know what he's talking about, or has he finally cracked?

http://www.drudgereport.com , if you're the lazy type.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:19 PM
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1. Perhaps an epiphany?
Because the only answer is "no".
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:19 PM
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2. My guess is that it is all news organizations that have Obama in the lead. NT
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:19 PM
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3. SOMEBODY...SCREEN SHOT....PLEASE
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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12. Ask and ye shall receive....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:32 PM
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29. His headline should have been "Stevens found guilty on 7 counts"....
but it wasn't.

That tells you that he's to the right of Fox.

He thought he had a lot of power (and some here still give him more than he deserves),
and now he realizes that he doesn't.

Fox and Drudge are the only ones left who don't believe Obama will be the next President.

Must be frustrating as hell!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:52 PM
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60. Is that Palin hanging in effigy?
That's rather disturbing. Fucking nuts on both sides it seems.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:56 PM
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63. Oh. Yah. Definitely stupid. And definitely NOT equivalent to white folks doing that to a black man..
Even if it be supposed for the sake of argument that it was Obama supporters who did it.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:11 PM
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66. The guy doesn't say he's an Obama supporter.
But he does say this:

Homeowner Chad Michael Morisette told local KCAL-TV the display should be considered Halloween "art" and said his neighbors would probably be more offended by a similar scene invoking Democrat Barack Obama.

"I know if we had done Barack Obama, people would have probably thrown things through our windows," Morisette said. "The image of a hanged black man is a lot more intense than the image of a hanged white woman for our country, the history of our country."



http://www.reuters.com/article/sarahPalin/idUSTRE49Q79N20081027



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ObamanationYes1 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:11 AM
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72. Why is one not as bad as the other???
Neither is acceptable even on a small level.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:22 PM
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16. You're looking at it.
The OP's subject line is exact. The picture appears above it. The text does not link up to anything - it's just a question/statement.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:28 PM
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71. Here's mine .....
Okay I made a few changes .....

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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:20 PM
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4. Ummm, it looks like he's asking can all of these organizations' polls be wrong.
The answer is no.

We give Drudge way too much credit/focus here.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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He didnt include FNC, which also has Obama leading.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:25 PM
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20. I don't think AFP and FT do polling, and he makes no reference to Gallup, Quinnipiac, etc.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:39 PM
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43. Who are "AFP" and "FT"...?
AFP sounds like a military acronym to me, while the only FT I know of is the one that counts for one point after a foul in basketball.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:42 PM
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49. Agence France-Presse, the world's third-largest news wire. FT is the Financial Times.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:54 PM
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62. Drudge is still milking monica, eventually it'll wear out IMO
It's more of just a fast reacting blog, where he links info from other sites and uses his "gravitas" to try and direct the news media. The problem is that he forgot what he got him to where he is now, it was for ORIGINAL reporting on the Monica Lewinsky story. People pay attention to you when you have something new to say. It's all to easy to see that he tries to drive the direction of the media not by outscooping them anymore but by just putting up B.S. and hoping that people will automatically run with it because of the "capital" he's gained over the years.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:40 AM
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76. Actually, they ALL *might* be VERY wrong... (i.g. cell phones not polled)
... but not in that bloody-handed fool's "direction"
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:20 PM
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5. I think after the B girl
He's lost all his credibility...well the miniscule amount he had.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:20 PM
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6. Hoping for a McCain comeback, I guess.
Pinning all his hopes on Zogby.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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7. Is there a reason? Why we care what he thinks? He's obviously going to cherry pick his polls.
As usual.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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8. He forgot Fox
Their poll has Obama up 9 too.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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9. Another BREAKING STORY???
As I said in the other Topic, over at another board (that I stubled on looking for more info on the Junor guy) they were talking about some tape of Obama at some dinner that the LA Times has (supposedly) It seems like they are throwing more than just the sink at Obamam, its more like the whole damn house!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:22 PM
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Some tape of Obama? I am soooo scared!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:22 PM
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17. DUPE
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:22 PM by thewiseguy
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:24 PM
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19. Video Tape....
I dont know, I just wanted to know if anyone else had heard of this yet, Im sure its BS and another guilt by association taken out of context but damn, I am sick of Fox and Friends and their crap, and YES i have to listen to it to know what we are up against.

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:26 PM
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22. There is no fucking tape
Just like the Michelle Obama "Whitey Tape."

There is no fucking tape. It's a ruse.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:28 PM
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70. Well there is a tape..
it's sitting right next to Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. :P

Frankly I think that their tinfoil hats are on too tight.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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10. Isn't the flag flying in the wrong direction ???
:grr::grr:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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14. Wind is anti-American!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:14 PM
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67. No, the wind is blowing from the Left. People have only to cross over to get the best perspective
By the way, I'm implying there's a metaphor here, in case you didn't pick up on that
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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11. Where's his flashing light?
:rofl:
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:21 PM
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13. I think he's in shock. It's dawning on him.
He is only the first of these deplorable humans from the right wing hate groups who will go into the many stages of grief and loss as they realize how cratered the GOP has become on November 5.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:22 PM
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15. Looks about right for that shitty website he has.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:23 PM
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18. Weird ..... maybe he's referring to it being in the tank for Obama ...
therefore discouraging people to just get out there and VOTE anyway ??? Check this out ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7629869

read through my last post in the thread .. only 4 there. Thoughts?

VOTE

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I replied there.
It is nothing new. They've been doing this for about a month now. Just a widget to keep track of the latest polls.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:35 PM
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34. Thanks Drunken Irishman ......
didn't remember any election electoral polls on the Yahoo Home page being up so long recently, maybe they just got by me. Or I was just clicked to another page (world, local, finance) when it came up .... deep breath ... gotta watch the powers that be these last few days. ;) Vigilance ..... Peace.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:25 PM
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21. he's pouting b/c he's being called out as a hack - and rightly so
I have no desire to go to his site, no matter what shit he puts up.

maybe he's begging for hits so he can charge his advertisers... like any good hack will do.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:26 PM
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24. Give the Hits to the Huffington Post. F- Him
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:27 PM
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Did Drudge hit the sauce again?
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:27 PM
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25. Link to (VERY ANTI-Obama Site) about video tape...
Hey I know this is more than likely total BS, but we gotta be informed:



http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/confirmed-msm-holds-video-of-barack.html">HERE


If anyone is interested in reading this stuff.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:27 PM
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26. You have to be kidding me?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:28 PM
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27. I'll give you a li'l hint:
People here have very low tolerance for right-wing bullshit, even if you're only linking it out of "concern." Knock it off or you'll find yourself tombstoned right quick.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:29 PM
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28. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Trolling.....
Not really, but you have to be at least somewhat interested in whats out there. It would seem that this might be the same place that the audio tape from the radio interview came from, as he seems to have other stuff like that. I guess I dont see how this is "Trolling", I mean come on. How can you not be concerned about bad press if there is a tsunami of it this week? I think a lot of us figured Kerry would win in 2004, I did, so I wouldn't assume anything until its over, and bad press worries me.




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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:34 PM
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31. We know what's out there. We don't piss our pants over insipid right-wing bullshit.
Well, most of us, at any rate. Now toddle along and go find the whitey tape.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:34 PM
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32. I've seen two posts from you in the last hour and both have to do with this.
So you tell me what I should think?

Why should I be concerned about some half-wit on the internet pushing a bullshit video that doesn't exist? So I'm supposed to believe the media, who had no problem pushing the Rev. Wright videos, is sitting on this one until after the election? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Not the video in general but anything like that...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:39 PM by KidNiki
I mean come on, after today... Anything is possible. Fox and Friends had no problem running a story where they played the audio that said one thing and then THEY interpreted it in a totally different way not 2 seconds later. That same audio has gotten play on CNN and I dont know, but probably MSNBC (I get my news stuff from XM, no cable TV). Anyways, my point is that if this is from 20 + page topic on the Shawn Hannity Forum, then someone at that place has to be trying to get this, and I wouldn't put pass them. They seem to have no care whatsoever for facts at this point, only interpreting them in their own way. That concerns me, also I live in Kansas, so its a little different here.

Edit for spelling
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. Who cares about FOX?
Seriously, if this were an issue, they would have already ran with it.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #39
46. Some people do and...
Isnt it funny how things that were not an issue months ago all of a sudden have become issues? They were talking about that on CNN tonight, although they said that many conservatives pointed it out as a negative thing (about the McCain campaign). I will admit though that MOST people are not THAT into the whole political landscape and so they don't have the background, IMHO.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:45 PM
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52. Yes. Most people do not care about right-wing tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:46 PM by Occam Bandage
Those who do are not going to be voting Democratic any time soon. Therefore, we can safely ignore them, because they're (A) bullshit and (B) meaningless. Now, please either get over what "Shawn" Hannity Forum obsesses over, or get outta Dodge.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #37
45. Please leave us, and go back to your "Shawn" Hannity Forum.
Right-wing slander belongs on right-wing sites. It has a very short shelf-life elsewhere.
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #37
50. Keep trying.........."concerned".. you are aware that the Clintons
used everything against Obama.

McCain has done nothing but recycling that - and in a poor manner I might add.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. You should ask for an extra topping of "concern" on your x-large pie. adios! n/t.
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. Hint
When you have just 12 posts and you are linking to rumor mongering on right wing web sites warning people to be concerned, you're going to get slapped. When you get a few hundred posts under your belt, you'll have some credibility and won't be considered here to make mischief.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #42
51. Well..
I only signed up for the site about a month ago during the convention's and usually didn't post, I wanted to start a topic about something at the time (can't remember what) but couldn't so I never posted. I am only tonight because....Im just procrastinating on getting work done, to be honest. Listen I got in it with an older couple tonight at PRice Chopper over this, I was for Hillary in the Primaries but now am for Obama. My wife has JRA and Health Care/Insurance is #1 for us. This is a very important race!!!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. Just edit your post and save yourself from this nightmare
These tapes do not exist. There were also much bigger rumors about Michelle's Whitey tape which was a big fat lie.

Do not consume yourself with these lies. Look ahead and focus on the issues.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #56
64. I won't edit it, but I appreciate the disscussion...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:59 PM by KidNiki
I gotta get going, I dont want anyone to think I bailed on the discussion, but its almost 11 pm here and I gotta work OT tomorrow so I better get going. Also thanX for the link to the Obama site on this, nice reference for things like this!
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. No one cares, troll.
Learn to punctuate, btw.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #25
44. gatewaypundit is a wingnut site
n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. yeah...you're a troll in my eyes as well and just promoting smear ...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:42 PM by vaberella
This goes off to fightthesmears...sigh!
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #47
54. Sorry..
I dont see it as promotion, I was curious and was wondering if anyone else here had heard of this. Trust me, Im a pretty huge supporter of Obama (although I haven't donated any monies :( ) So, I dont see this as Trolling, just inquiring. The funny thing is, if I went to a board where they discussed this I would get labeled a Troll there as well! Sheesh!!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #54
59. If you're enquiring do some research before you post.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 10:53 PM by vaberella
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/24/KhalidiSmear

I'm still sending that site to them so they could be on guard. But he already sponded those attacks. Further more, I find it shocking that the media wouldn't release this tape if they had it, since in fact McCain and most Repubs are getting killed in the voting and polls. Think realistically on it. After the Ted Stevens, troopergate, wardrobegate, and the drama in the Palin v. McCain camp you'd think the media would throw that out there to help McCain, except they left him hanging.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. True...
ThanX for the link, I had not heard of this place before!

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #61
74. You've never heard of it?
Obama even mentioned them in his speeches, if you've never been here. Interesting.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
57. Oh...Even better. Obama already has a response to your crappy post.
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KidNiki Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:01 PM
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65. Sorry didn't think it was crappy just inquiring...
Hey man, I don't think its wrong to ask a group of people a question. You should lighten up and instead of making some comment on how crappy the comment is just refute it like you did. That link is helpful, but you don't have to be all negative about.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:34 AM
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75. Crappy in relation to context of the post. A smear is not a highlight of a post.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #65
78. And in the words of Curly Bill from “Tombstone”...


“Well...Bye!” :)
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:37 PM
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36. Who's missing from the list: Zogby end IBD
Drudge is trying to tease the polls that show a closer race to suggest that McCain is closing the gap. I've come to the conclusion that this is not something to worry about, largely because the campaign behaviors (RNC buying ads in Montana, McCain/Palin spending time in Missouri and Colorado) don't actually suggest that the race is closing up.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. And Quinnipiac, and Gallup, and every other polling firm. Those are media outlets, not pollsters,
though many of them do both.
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:38 PM
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38. I want a copy of that comic book
:)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:39 PM
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41. Asshat can't spell Politico.
:rofl:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:42 PM
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48. Cherry Picking Polls as Usual. Man I hope Obama wins big
And these idiots are speechless
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:46 PM
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53. uhh, maybe, I guess?
We have another week of this bullshit.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:49 PM
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55. BREAKING HARD... DRUDGE
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:50 PM
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58. funny they don't have zogby
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:16 PM
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68. You know what bothers me about that picture more than anything else? Obama's camel toe!
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:18 PM
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69. Maybe the stupid rethug POS finally gets it
Took you long enough Drudge. :eyes:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:12 AM
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73. Please don't reference Drudge's smarmy site?
:puke: :thumbsdown:
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:43 AM
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77. Why do DU'ers insist on posting the Sludge report here?
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