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leeeeenz Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:12 PM
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Is it wrong to make fun of McCain's health?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 01:23 PM by leeeeenz
There is a new hilarious web video out at:

http://www.votesmarter2008.com/health

Now seeing that, an interesting question:

Is it wrong to make fun of a man's health? Is it okay now because he hid so much? Is it okay because he is running for president? Is it okay because he's just such a bad man?

Interesting questions for discussion.

In any case there are plenty more videos at http://www.votesmarter2008.com
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:17 PM
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1. Yes
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 01:29 PM by madmax
As someone who was told last week that her biopsy is malignant I can tell you from my heart - it's wrong. Please don't go there. Having said that, it is a legitimate concern for anyone running for President. It should be discussed and considered a factor but, not to make fun of.
:hug:
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bmartello Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:19 PM
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8. I hope everything goes well for you!
I've had a malignant biopsy too... so scary! I hope you have great care and support from the people who love you. If you don't, let me know where you are and I can put you in touch with some alternative wellness people who can support the other side of you as you go through this process!

lighting a candle for you...

best,
Barbara
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:28 PM
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10. Thank you
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 02:28 PM by madmax
That means so much to me. I will light a candle for you also. :hug:

We are new to NC and don't know too many people here but, I do have a supportive hubby. I try to look on the bright side and think if this had to happen- it happened here in NC where I'm seeing a dr. at Duke.

And then there is HOPE:

'We've been warned against offering the people of this great nation false hope. But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope'. Barack Obama



Rosemary
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bmartello Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:46 PM
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13. :D
Thanks Rosemary!

I do happen to know quite a few acupuncturists in North Carolina, so if you are in need please holler okay?!

I'm glad you are in great hands at Duke. Please make sure you tend to your spirit too, it's SO important!

All my best!
Barbara
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:19 PM
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2. Don't make fun of McCain's health...after all, we're all going to be old and sick one day...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 01:20 PM by Two Sheds
but bringing up his age and health issues is legitimate electoral politics.
A vote for John McCain for president is a vote for Sarah Palin as president. It's just that simple.
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:28 PM
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3. Yes.
It's not right to make fun of anyone's health.

It IS right to examine his health, age and fitness to serve as an issue, but never to mock him.

WE have to keep to the high road, or we're no better than our opponents.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:29 PM
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4. I think so. As an issue; on the other hand, it is a very valid consideration.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:01 PM
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5. It's not our fault...
that he's old or
that he's ill or
that he's running for president.

But if he wins, it WILL be our fault. Let the chips fall where they will.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:10 PM
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6. Yes, and while we're on it
leave his age alone too. Obama at that age could be on the Supreme Court. Will you deride his age and say he should step down?

He's an idiot, an evil Repuke, all kinds of things. Age and illness are not flaws.

ON THE OTHER HAND, his health and age are a factor in evaluating his choice of VP, because there is a very real possibility that person would become President. That's just reality.
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:35 PM
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12. Illness and age can be flaws.
Very easily. If you hold a public office, illness and age can be flaws.

Not something to be mocked, perhaps. But if they keep you from doing you job to the best of your abilities, they can be flaws.

Of course, the extent that it can effect your job varies a LOT person to person. But can you sit there and tell me seriously that Reagan's age wasn't a flaw later in his Presidency?
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bmartello Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:14 PM
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7. It's okay for it to be pertinent, it's not okay to make fun of it...
I'm a 31 year old female with a history of melanoma and every time people talk about it like it's a death sentence I cringe. I think because he is running for the highest office, it bears considering, and if it has ever progressed past 'in-situ' then yes, probably not such a good idea. Being dealt with in-situ, Malignant Melanoma has a near 100% cure rate. After in-situ, when the cancer starts to spread down through the layers of the skin, the survivability drops substantially and can be one of the swiftest, most painful ways to die. I have been told multiple times by doctors that I dodged a bullet, and that scares the shit out of me.

Making fun of anyone's health status is not compassionate in the least. Under our red or blue, christian or other, black, white, brown, sexual preference, etc., we are ALL PEOPLE. Everyone deserves the compassion we would offer our families and loved ones. If a republican made fun of me because I am a Melanoma patient and hoped my end was swift because of my politics, people would be up in arms about it. We have to be the bigger people on all of this. That to me is one of the most appealing aspects of Obama. We must be the change we want to see in the world. We have to bring all americans together under Obama. This country has to heal and it has to move forward. It has to start with us.

That being said, I think that if McCain has serious medical conditions that drastically increases the likelihood of Sarah Palin ending up being our president, the American people deserve to know about it and vote accordingly.

GOBAMA!
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:21 PM
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9. the Palin Threat isn't funny
nope not funny at all, just scary :scared:
Some of my favorite people are very old! but a potential Palin presidency doesn't depend on their health for the next 4 and a half years. McCain's health should be a big consideration for everyone voting.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:31 PM
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11. Yes it's wrong.
But I get mad that he and the rest of them in congress don't have to worry about the cost of their health care like the rest of us do.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:50 PM
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14. It's wrong to make fun of anyone's health, & any true Democrat knows that.
Now would I feel bad if Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity came down with an incurable fatal disease? Fuck no, but there are few people in this world who should ever be made fun of for health reasons. There are plenty of other reasons to make fun of people like McCain, but most Democrats are too compassionate to poke fun at him for his bad health. His age yes, but not his health.
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