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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:43 PM
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So Now EVERYONE Knows
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 09:50 PM by NanceGreggs
Those among us who have recognized the hypocrisy of the GOP over the years – a charge which, when made, often fell on deaf ears – have now been fully vindicated, thanks to the McCain campaign, its supporters, its defenders, and its hard-core adherents.

While Republican voters screamed for McCain to take off the gloves, what actually slipped off was the mask that Republican powers-that-be have hidden behind for decades – and the face that was exposed for all the world to see was, to say the least, not a pretty one.

It seems that we have heard the carefully-crafted talking points forever – and while we have staunchly pointed out the discrepancies between what was being said and what was being done, we have been told that we are, at best, nit-pickers … and at worst, delusional.

But now everybody can see the GOP for what it is, and know it for what it’s been all along: a smoke-and-mirrors sideshow meant to distract the public eye away from the truths of any number of matters – and then some.

We all vividly remember having the term fiscal responsibility drummed into our heads by a party who has now been proven to have plundered our treasury to the point of not only monetary but moral bankruptcy. And while the backs of the middle-class workers have now been broken, as we not-so-presciently predicted, we as a nation face the consequences of no one having taken heed of the oh-so-obvious warnings we’ve given voice to for years. And being able to say “I told you so” is no comfort at all.

We all recall having been dubbed anti-American as we decried the occupation of Iraq, and insisted it would inflame rather than calm already troubled waters. And now the truth is out; this is an unwinnable “war” that has cost us lives, untold billions of dollars, and the respect of the world – and the campaign that has desperately tried to sell it as anything more than the disaster it was always destined to become is on the ropes, begging for mercy.

We’ve been told again and again about the superior leadership of the Republicans. But we have now all been treated to what they consider “leadership” – a presidential candidate who doesn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia, who doesn’t “get” the economy, who believes that tax-cuts for the wealthy will be a widely-accepted “cure” for the current economic crisis, and honestly believes that his own delusions, be they of grandeur or Joe-Six-Packery, will catapult him into the White House.

And of course there is the experience counts meme that has been shoved down our throats until the gag reflex inevitably set in, ultimately triggered by a VP choice who started out by asking what a vice-president does, only to go on to ramble aimlessly (after, one would suppose, being schooled on the topic) about what she perceives as the job description, babbling incoherently about the very things a vice-president doesn’t do, never has done, and never will do according to that shredable piece of paper called The Constitution.

So much for “Country First” from a man, and a party, who apparently believe that potentially putting the nation's wellbeing into the hands of a vacuous, dumb-assed, pseudo-religious whack-job – who is being proffered as the living personification of that famous GOP national security acumen by virtue of living within viewing distance of Russia – is somehow demonstrative of that legendary cool-headed ability to keep our nation safe.

We have been labeled anti-American because we called for an end to the very deregulation that has created economic catastrophe; we have been called anti-troops because we want them home, safe and sound, while a man who has done nothing to support the cause of our soldiers and our veterans trots out his POW status (if and when convenient), while promoting another hundred years of death and destruction in a war whose victory he lauds but still can’t define.

We have been endlessly preached to by the party of good Christian moral values – a group now exposed as torture-supporting, let-the-poor-do-without, bigoted “kill the n*gg*r”-shouting racists that Jesus himself would be hard-pressed to forgive for their multitude of sins – no less the fact that they conjure up His name as a shield to hide behind as they spew their hatred.

And let’s not forget the fact that in the midst of the worst kind of race-baiting we’ve seen out in the open for a long time, there’s the added bonus of a campaign that reiterates, at every opportunity, how proud it is of these kinds of supporters.

Yes, the mask has fallen away – and what some of us suspected, and what many of us knew to be the case – is now an open secret: The Republican party is completely devoid of the very moral fiber they have relied upon for years as their raison d’etre, the foundation upon which they have built what is now exposed as a house of cards – as flimsy as a cardboard box in the rain, and equally as useful as a shelter from the oncoming storm.

It’s over.

The GOP have proven themselves to be the party of hypocrisy, greed, corruption and ignorance – now unmasked and unclothed, for all the world to see at long last.

I thank the McCain campaign for so blatantly and unequivocally exposing the ugly underbelly of their party, and for giving decent Americans a clear choice on Election Day.

Rest in Pieces, GOP. It can’t be said that we hardly knew ye – we knew ye all along; and it’s gratifying to know that the rest of the nation, and the world-at-large, now know you for what you have always been – and won’t have an opportunity to ever be again.

In an election as important as this one, it was obvious that the whole world would be watching - and now, the whole world knows who the Republican Party is, what they really stand for, and what evil lurks behind the holier-than-thou rhetoric that decent people are now distancing themselves from in droves.

As of next Tuesday, the war-mongering, lying hate merchants will be officially out-of-business – and the party that spawned them, nurtured them, and gave them influence and power will be banished to the darkest corners of a national history we will all be thankful to eventually put behind us.

I sometimes wish I was a better person, someone who has the capacity to forgive and forget. But I’m not.

I will never forget – and I’ll gladly burn in hell for all eternity rather than hold out the hand of forgiveness to these fuckers for as long as I live.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:44 PM
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1. Hell Fucking Yes! n/t
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:00 AM
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116. Absolutely...the party NEEDS to be banned
Without a doubt, virtually EVERY problem we have in the United States, as well as the planet, can be whittled down to ONE MAIN THEME:

We NEED to ban the republican party!

I've harped on this issue from time immemorial. The HYPOCRISY that is on display by EVERY republican is so apparent, that anyone who votes for them is either a stupid dunce or a criminal. NO other explanation is possible.

In fact, the very tenets of the republican party is BEYOND the the scope that politics provides. There is absolutely NO exchange of political discourse. The republicans can ONLY "win" with illegal vote handling, rapist attitudes of corporations for their workers, and the absolute destruction of the planetary financial markets. The ENTIRE fault for EVERY ill this country faces can be traced to the existence and continued destructive activities done by the American republican party.

I can NOT just sit here and take it anymore! I don't freakin' CARE what the "moderates" think. But the republican party is NOT a political party anymore! It was dubious at best... but when the capitalists took hold of the party during reconstruction, it spelled not only the end of true political discourse between Americans as dinenfranchisement of non-republicans became the norm, but it established a DANGEROUS path in which the world is teetering on the brink of nuclear, financial, and environmental catastrophe.

Our hope...our ONLY hope... is for Barack Obama to lead the charge to save the planet. We MUST, however, do ONE MORE THING before 2010:

We must ban the republican party. Specifically, we need to enact RICO statutes already in place to prosecute organized crime. Several lawyers have indicated to me that if the republican party were a private entity, it would be near the top of every law enforcement Hit List in existence as far as a targeted organization.

To all those who think that banning the republican party is NOT democratic: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE EXPRESSO!!

They have STOPPED OPERATING as a political party since Goldwater! Virtually EVERY republican can be brought up on charges in either the US or World Court; only Gerald Ford would not warrant anything less than a life sentence based on criminal intent.

When we have a filibuster proof congress, we can seriously change the tax code, and actually socialize the country to a just, democratic process.

YES, I said SOCIALIZE. Boooooo, scared republicans, we are IN YOUR FACE. But it is YOU GUYS who deserve such a tact.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:46 PM
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2. No chance I'll forgive them either.
And I'll fight them as long as I breathe air.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:29 PM
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104. No probs - their descendents'll just wait 75 yrs (or 40, if the dumbing down project goes well) and
do it all again after we're dead.

And they don't need forgiveness, they just need their assets not to be seized.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:46 PM
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3. I agree. I can't forgive them. And F*CKERS is the best name for them nt
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:54 PM
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9. No Forgiveness. None. No. Not. Ever. Crush The Fuckers.
Crush them with the heel of truth and democracy. And all things decent in this world. I am sick to death of these rodents. CRUSH. THEM.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM
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15. ABSOLUTELY! nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:06 PM
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106. .
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:49 PM
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4. K&R, my dear Nance...
Boy, am I ever glad you're on our side!

This is the most withering prose I have ever read from you!

Well said!


:patriot:
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:49 PM
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5. Ahh, my Nance fix
Always a great read.
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:51 PM
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6. Come on Nance
don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:00 PM
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94. When the millions of dead, displaced, disabled victims of their lies hold them accountable
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:01 PM
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95. ...make them accountable, then we'll talk forgiveness.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:52 PM
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7. Excellent post Nancy! Thank you... k&r
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:54 PM
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8. I just got to ask you...
Are you channeling Molly Ivins?

Everything that I have read written by you, reminds me so much of Molly.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:55 PM
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10. On Nov 5th all of the disparate parts of the Republican party will
start running in opposite directions and a bloody intercine battle will erupt all trying to define the "Real Republicans"

I wish them well and hope that they use all of their weapons against each other to get to the bottom of this great question.


Given enough time and scapels we will let them take their tactics to their logical absurd conclusion until we get down to that one single person who is in fact the "real Republican".
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:56 PM
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11. NO FOREGIVENESS!! They would certainly take it as a sign of weakness...
That is the kind of people they are...no grace at all.
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Takket Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:58 PM
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12. awesome post
As much as I am looking forward to Obama leading the nation, I do not in any way envy him. He simply has the biggest mess EVER left to clean up. maybe the repugs sensed the loss and gave Obama an impossible task to save this nation to set themselves up for 2012.

I really think though people are going to remember the clinton years, and the bush years, and see how well things are going to go on obama, and history will damn the repugs for a LONG time. We may not see repugs in power in the oval office or congress for decades. They had their revolution in the 90s, then the bush years, and it has been nothing but a disaster for america.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM
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16. Welcome aboard, newbie ...
... :hi:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:12 AM
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63. Agreed
and bienvenue!
:hi:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:58 PM
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13. Posts like this make me so happy I found this site...that was great! n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:59 PM
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14. Indeed. And, sadly, no small number of candidates in our own party had begun to
adopt some of the same techniques, weighing integrity against political expediency and thus lowering the quality of discourse across the political spectrum.

I'm most proud of our party this very year and with this very candidate for his refusal to pander and lie, and in doing so succeeding in securing both the candidacy and in all likelihood the presidency.

Not to mention a new direction for our country and, hopefully, for politics generally.

:patriot:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:03 PM
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17. Great One
I have often told my so called "Christian" sil & hubby that God will never forgive the bushies and their followers for the misery they inflected on the world.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:08 PM
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21. It's the disconnect between ...
... the teachings of Christ and today's so-called Christianity that astounds me more than anything else.

Maybe because they believe that Jesus died for their sins, they want to be as corrupt as possible - thereby ensuring he didn't die in vain.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:34 AM
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43. WOW! That's a great way to express that -
"they believe that Jesus died for their sins, they want to be as corrupt as possible - thereby ensuring he didn't die in vain."


That's a heavy, heavy concept.


Thank you, NanceGreggs, for all your magnificent thinking.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:07 AM
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55. All I see there is an essentially Old Testament ('chosen people') message.
Inasmuch as these people actually read, they would appear to be much more avid followers of Old Testament stories rather than of what is essential about Christ's message in the New.

Into the mix is then thrown an idealistic image of America's role, which appears to have been there at least since the founding fathers, as a latter-day Rome with a latter-day right to Empire, democratic or dictatorial. Forgetting the degree to which Romans' urbanity and might were based on subject tribute-payers, vast parasitic armies and slaves, or early Christianity's status as little more than a guerilla outfit of the moral left in a Palestine suffering both Roman occupation and a deeply-rooted priest-run Jewish Theocracy.

Further, and worse because closer to the present day, something of a Crusader mentality has been allowed to creep in, this from a time when the much politically-advanced Christian Church, along with the societies of Franks and Goths and of Byzantium in the West, was highly militarized and engaged in geopolitical confrontation with the fast-risen and equally aggressive New Moral Order that was Islam to the South and East (at the same time as it was seeking to consolidate its own power as supreme ruler, maker and breaker of laws and of Kings, and legitimate inheritor of the "Imperial Title" of the Empires of Byzantium and of Rome).

As a result of all these mythical mental gymnastics, our average modern-day preacher-worshipping Repug-voting cretin may well believe that his beloved country finds itself under serious existential threat from some kind of terrible, heretic outer-world, and that only the wrathful cry of "Vengeance is Mine" can bring forth to the fatherland the return of the Messiah bearing as a gift the most Righteous Apocalypse.

All else being the Devil's Way.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:22 PM
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86. Best explanation I've heard for
hypocritical right-wingers! It actually makes sense in a dark, perverted way.

Your post was brilliant, one the best things I read in a long time. You really nailed it.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:06 PM
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18. Oh, I don't know...
I find saying "I told you so" VERY comforting...
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:06 PM
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19. Hell fucking yes. Thanks Nancy
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:07 PM
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20. You'll never burn in hell...
Those who stand up for the oppressed, the lonely, the forgotten; those who help the injured, the sick and offer warmth to those who face a cold world...well...we are the type of people who just don't make it to hell.

I have spent a lifetime fighting for the Rights of others, suddenly, I find myself having to fight to keep my own Rights intact. What these people have done is repairable, but it will take time, certainly more than the "First 100 Day Honeymoon" period after an inauguration.

Americans are a resilient people, we tend to pop back up after being slapped around a little. Most of us are generous to a fault and we stand on the principle of Justice, even when we rarely get there. We're a funny sort, one moment afraid, then comes the resistance to fear, and we tackle the problems we've encountered. Fear has been used as a political tactic since the dawn of civilizations, but slowly, we are learning to shed those fears. Here, and in other nations/societies where people are given a chance to speak up and learn about issues, we move forward, with the occasional lapse back into the dimly lit corridors of ignorance. But we always seem to get close to getting it right eventually. This is one of those times when we'll get it right.



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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:12 PM
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24. "This is one of those times when we'll get it right."
I believe that with all my heart - we've just got to ensure that those who are determined to get it wrong, over and over, are no longer in a position to act.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:09 PM
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22. K and R thank you, NanceGreggs....
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:11 PM
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23. Fuck yeah!
Great rant, Nancy!
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:13 PM
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25. Great post, Nance.
As always. :)
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:19 PM
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26. Now THAT sounds like a RANT!
:D

:toast:
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:19 PM
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27. You said it!
You've summed it all up perfectly! Thank you.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:20 PM
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28. Well said sister....
Love the nance rants sig line. When I first started writing for the internet in 1997 and discovered the fun of free rhetorical discourse I used to call it ranting too.

:)
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:31 PM
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29. Bravo, Nance! No forgiving. No forgetting. No mercy.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:31 PM
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30. Never forget and I hope there is some real blowback for
the most complicit.

I see five factions in the GOP:

1. Fundie religious right.

2. Paleo-Conservatives or "True Conservatives", intellectual conservatives with western values.

3. Neo-Conservatives which are not conservative at all; they are elitist imperialist and fascist in nature and Machavellian in method.

4. Reagan Democrats. My father (born 1910 died 1996, WWII in Europe vet) loved FDR yet also loved Ronald Reagan and denied the inconsistency. I was an undergrad at UC Berkeley when Reagan was CA Gov and then was a professional forester with the USFS when Reagan was POTUS and quit after 16 years years during his Presidency. Reagan targeted agencies that performed well --actually "diamonds" in the public sector at the time -- to demonize and undermine. This group is mostly older and a disappearing demographic.

5. Ron Paul or Bircher or Libertarian (in practice not theory) individuals with the maturity to have a meaningful (one of two party) vote as the two party system is reality except sometimes locally.

I would have perverse pleasure in blowback to the fundies and neocons; many of the neocons and some of the cynical fundie l;eaders are criminals in my world. These groups frighten me as I peerceive frankly anti-Constitutional belief structures.

NancyGreggs -- you are a better and more insightful writer than may well known professionals so I hope you are noticed and treated royally. Just a hattip in any case. I read what you write.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:47 PM
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74. The only faction of these for which I'd have any sympathy is Faction 4...
and possibly (2), depending on how it's defined. Mostly people seem to use the term 'paleo-conservative' to mean something akin to (5): the sort of Pat Buchanan, isolationist, far-right-winger. But as you treat it separately, you may mean more the standard pre-Reagan Republicans, who seem to have been much more like mainstream Conservatives in other Western countries. I agree that these are more excusable than the others.

I tend to see the biggest battle as between right-wing and non-right-wing. Right-wing includes fundies, neo-con imperialists, racists, Social Darwinists, authoritarians and xenophobes. Non-right-wing includes leftists, liberals and indeed moderate Conservatives. Within the last category, I would certainly vote for a leftist or liberal against even a moderate Conservative - but the real right-wing in all its forms is the strongest danger.

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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:18 PM
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111. I don't believe there are any "real" conservatives left.
If there were any, the Republican party might have had a chance. Instead: they chose to cloak theft, scandal, dirty tricks, war profiteering, international intrigues and machinations; the usurpation and corruption of the CIA and much of the intelligence community for perpetration of international crime (thanks, Papi Bush and Ronnie Raygun); the strip-mining of the middle-class; the shipment of our jobs and technology overseas along with a huge amount of our money to Bahamian, Cayman Island, Swiss, and Dubaian secret bank accounts -- where we'll see neither again; the malicious neglect of our electrical, water, and sewer infrastructures; the clear-cutting of national treasures, our national forests for the profit of the few (Those belong to all of us; where's my share of the profit? You didn't get yours either, didja!); taking a shit on the citizenry and wiping their arse with the Constitution; the fouling of our lakes, rivers, and streams because Republicans don't care if they shit in their own livingrooms -- all of this went masquerading as "conservatism".

And they'll be the first to inform you in no uncertain terms that no matter who you are, they're a better Christian than you, even if they have to kill you or burn a cross on your yard to prove it.

They'll tell you they're the model of conservatism. Yeahright, when monkeys fly out of my butt. The emperor is nekkid. What they model isn't conservatism at all. It's plain-old theft, corruption, criminality, and nasty living. Now, if republicans want to live nasty, they can do so in their own homes, it's none of my business. But when they want to live nasty in the streets, or live nasty in the public areas, they need to be housebroken like any other nasty creature.

It's time to put the leash back on them.

The intelligence community has been rendered corrupt and useless. There are illegal black sites all over the world. There are megaprisons dotting the American landscape. The intelligence our officials should have gotten to prevent 9/11 was already watered down, half-wrong, and even that got ignored by the REPUBLICAN officials in charge. "Conservatism" as a phrase, as a concept, even in practice is totally bankrupt, totally without meaning, used up, washed out, and its cover is blown. Anyone these days who says "I'm a conservative", well, you know they're admitting to being either a crook, a bigot, an out-and-out racist, a liar, or some combination thereof.

What they aren't is "conservative" by any dictionary definition.

A real conservative would have conserved the country's natural resources for future generations, so we'd have clean air, clean water, and places of refuge. A real conservative wouldn't have stolen the forests, taken down whole friggin' mountains, taken mineral resources that belonged to the American taxpayer, shit in the rivers, taken the profit for the already-rich and left the bill for those who got nothing but the shaft out of the deal in the first place.

That's not a conservative -- that's a goddam crook.

A real conservative would rather have died than to give up his or her rights by agreeing to an atrocity like the Patriot Act. A real conservative wouldn't have given such a lying name to a piece of legislation so in conflict with the principles of the Founding Document. A real conservative would never have agreed to have an ever-larger government peek in his emails, his phone records, his bank records, and every time he wipes his arse. Yet these so-called "conservatives" think the Patriot Act is the greatest thing since sliced bread since they swallowed the hook that it "protects us".

That's not a conservative -- that's a goddam yellow coward.

A real conservative would mind his own business. Good fences make good neighbors and the government should stay on its side of it. Not these so-called "conservatives". They want government to regulate just what kind of sex people should have and with whom. If that ain't intrusion, I've never heard of it. More to the point, they're so fixated on sex -- the kind of sex other people are supposedly having (when they're not tapping their toes in men's room stalls or having diaper sex with whores-not-their-wives) -- they're forgetting about love and what that means. And they've got zero notion of what "mind your own damn business" means, or "small government". They want government all-up in everything, if it means legislating morality. They conveniently forget about all the theft, graft, corruption, depravity, war crimes, treaty-breaking, torture, and a million other things Jesus would never, ever, ever, in a million years have countenanced -- all done in their name. Just please don't let two guys get married and they're just fine with torture and killing of innocent children.

That's not a conservative -- that's a goddam hypocrite.

No, these days, "conservative" has come to mean the very poster-image of a person who will trespass into your back yard to steal the sheets off your line and the wood off your shed to go burn a cross on someone's yard they don't know and beat them with a Bible they don't read.

The word should die the death it deserves and let's start calling these cowards, hypocrites, racists, bigots, sloths, and dregs of society exactly what they are and have been. They have engineered the greatest theft and blight our nation has ever seen. The decades-long destruction of our land, our pride, our treasury, our infrastructure, our system of laws, even our language is coming to a screeching halt.

To paraphrase the late Bette Davis: One should never say bad things about the dead. One should only say good.

Conservatism is dead.

Good.

I'm with you, Nance. Some things can't and don't need to be forgiven.

:rant:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:35 PM
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31. "And being able to say 'I told you so' is no comfort at all."
You got that right, Sister Nance!

K&R, as usual. Nice work.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:42 PM
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32. It is impossible. Forgive and forget would mean to pretend
that these last 8 years of our falling into the abyss did not steal a major part of my life.

It would mean that I can somehow forget to think about our dead soldiers, now 4500 with that being only the tip of the bloody heap we need to tally.
It would mean I am inhuman.
It would be counter- evolutionary to forgive or forget.

A new day is coming.
And we will all have to help President Obama dig out of that abyss.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:46 PM
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33. Bravo, Nance
You Rock

:yourock:
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:47 PM
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34. Yeah, what you said.
After the results are in there will be such a hootin and hollerin, the world hasn't seen, You betcha, by golly there will.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:55 PM
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35. I'm so glad you have Molly's pic on your signature line. I can feel her smiling at your words.
If anyone forgives those fuckers it's gonna have to be Jesus, because I'm way past my seven-times-seven-times-seven.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:57 PM
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36. Jill Six Pack isn't getting behind the wheel of my Rolls Royce.
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 11:00 PM by Gregorian
Sorry. I read your incredible writing, and a bunch of thoughts flooded into my head.

As if our country is so invaluable, so worthless, that we would let someone like Palin potentially take control of it. I don't think so.

T minus 10 days, and counting!







By the way, this was an absolutely stunning statement you made. It's so absolutely true. The mask has fallen off. Uh, can I be so silly to say it's not too different from that scene in the Wizard of Oz where the man behind the curtain is revealed. What a time to be alive and on the forums. Bravo for a great piece!
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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:59 PM
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37. Freakin' K&R! Standing ovation!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:01 PM
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38. It would be nice to get rid of the whole GOP 'nest'
this election has been like destroying a wasp's nest. They've come out stinging, buzzing like mad. It's now a case of getting the queen.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:06 PM
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39. Have I ever told you you are one of my favourites here, I am one who will never forget and less
likely to forgive.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:08 PM
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40. Thank you so much, buzzard ...
But I'm only as good as the people here - who are a 24-7 inspiration.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:37 PM
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41. Desmond Tutu
says that forgiveness is simply giving up the right to retaliate. I can go with that. There's nothing about forgiveness that requires discarding justice. Nor does it require that we make ourselves stupid enough to allow offenders to repeat their offenses.

As a nation, we shouldn't forget. If we do, we'll never learn to improve. But we can, as a people, exchange retaliation for justice.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:41 PM
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42. I'd gladly exchange retaliation for justice ...
But the truth is there are certain things I cannot forgive - and that is my personal failing, and at least I can be honest about it.

Maybe I'll learn to be a better person some day ... but today isn't that day.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:44 AM
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44. What was it that Gengis Khan said
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 01:49 AM by ekwhite
about enjoying killing his enemies, burning their villages, and hearing the wailing of their loved ones? I am starting to feel that way about Republicans. We should treat them the way the Romans treated Carthage - salt their fields so that nothing can ever grow there again.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:57 AM
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45. I do believe that's the best thing I've ever seen you write.
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:52 AM
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51. and that's saying something
You rock, Nance! K & R
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whoopingcrone Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:03 AM
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46. Before I consider forgiving
I want to see some acknowledging and making amends.
After that, if I live long enough, I'll think about forgiving this
particular bunch of sleazoids... but I'll never forget,
and I'll do everything I can to make sure
any lurking wannabes don't ever get a chance to copy them.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:31 AM
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47. Don't EVER FORGET what these fascist assholes have done to us!
The republicans have dammed near destroyed this country in eight short years. I pray to God that President Obama and a democratic controlled Congress can bring this country back from the edge of the cliff we are now standing on.

These same right wing haters will fight Obama and the dems every step of the way, you can count on that. Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and their fascist ilk will be in vicious attack mode from day one of the Obama administration.

They will make the Clinton era attacks look like a walk in the park. Not saying this to discourage anyone but just be ready to continue the fight for whats right when Obama and the dems win big on Nov. 4.
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greenbird Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:29 AM
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48. Regarding the "Christian" hypocrisy:
Over the past few weeks, something my mother used to say has popped into my head several times a day:

"If I were Jesus, I'd pick up my skirts and run!"
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:43 AM
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49. Shun them,
reject them, make them grovel and beg. They represent the worst of this country. Their ideas of traditional values are slavery, bigotry and lying. Enough with those who choose to label fellow citizens traitors at the behest of right wing hate radio propagandists. They have foreclosed on their own morality, and they owe the rest of us big time.
The only reason to reach across the aisle is to take their lunch money.
Fear torture and mass killings are not American values.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 AM
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52. They are hard to shun
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 06:03 AM by Artiechoke
They keep popping up on the Teevee.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:47 AM
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50. Never forget. They will always try to come back - like dICK cheNey -
member of the disgraced niXon team. He came back for his revenge on the American people and the world.

For the next 60 years, every political resume should be scrutinized for time the period between 2000 and 2008.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:07 AM
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53. Great work , NanceGreggs K+R n/t
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:42 AM
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54. Hit out of the ballpark once again
:yourock:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:09 AM
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56. In the words of the Dixie Chicks:
Forgive - sounds good
Forget - I'm not sure I could

On second thought, I don't think I'll ever forgive, either. The GOP has ruined this country. Fuck them.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:12 AM
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57. Don't think for a second they won't try to come roaring back
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 07:28 AM by Wednesdays
We're in the same position we were in 1992 (assuming a nightmare scenario won't come to pass on November 4th).

I remember 1992 very well--a Dem winning the presidency by a large electoral margin, and solid Dem majorities in both houses. Dems were euphoric--we thought we had it made--and some pundits said the Republican Party was dead...but then look what happened: obstructionist Repukes called the shots for the next two years, and this was followed by The Contract on America. So much for the GOP being dead.

You can bet your bottom dollar the Rethugs will do everything they can to repeat history between now and 2010.

(Marvelous article nonetheless, and a big K&R on it.)
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:12 AM
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58. I won't say "Yes", Nance...
I will say "Hell Yes!!!".

As Hunter S Thompson said, 'I piss down the throats of these Nazi scum.'
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:39 AM
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59. who has fought the gop fuckers of whom you speak?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 08:41 AM by tomp
not the dems, for the most part. so many to NOT forgive. so many who, when the chips were down, refused to adamantly oppose bush (and that's just for the last eight years).

and, i might mention the 40+ % of people polling for the repub ticket. I don't think they know yet.

and let's not label any of them out of business until the votes are NOT counted next week.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:46 AM
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60. I can never forgive and forget either.
Maybe if we could GO BACK IN TIME eight years I could let it go. But our future is so completely fucked up.. I will NEVER not blame the people I know who voted for Bush.. my aunt, my step-father, my husband's uncle.. I can never ever respect those people again no matter how long we live.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:47 AM
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61. I love everything about this post except the not forgiving because these pieces of shit are
not worth my soul. I will figure out a way. :think:
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Indepatriot Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:02 AM
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62. Reporting For Duty Captain Greggs! Fired Up And Ready To Rock! GOTV!
Just one more week to push, push , push theses america-hating motherf*ckers out the damn door. This is no time to let up. We need to talk with undecided friends/family/neighbors, volunteer for GOTV, phonebanking,etc... Most importantly, DO NOT GO ALONE ON NOV 4TH! Fill your car with friends and family. Let's walk the walk and take back our country from these imposters.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:26 AM
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64. Whoot!! Telling it like it is. K & R
eom
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:03 AM
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65. K & R Thanks for addressing this. I have been telling people this for.
at least 28 years!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:08 AM
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66. Yep. I will NEVER forgive the Republicans for what they have done to our country.
NEVER.
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Night_Nurse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:25 AM
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67. Bravo! Great post! K&R
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ckimmy57 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:52 AM
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68. GREAT post
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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2QT2BSTR8 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:59 AM
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69. As Taggart would say in Galaxy Quest...
Never give up! Never surrender! Great post!
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kleec Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:36 PM
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70. Many thanks
Thanks for saying the very things I've been thinking and sharing with like minded people! When I've tried to present this kind of information to the ones who think the republican party is all about family values I am regarded as 'one of those'. You all know what THAT means! Nance I love your posts and so appreciate the fact that you do them so beautifully. I am another who is thrilled to have found this website. It 'rocks' and so do you!

:applause:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:37 PM
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71. Reminds me of the Leonard Cohen song by same name: Everybody Knows. ~nt~
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ZeitGuy Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:24 PM
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79. Loving the Leonard, but...
...have you heard Concrete Blonde's cover of this song? Johnette Napolitano's wail is haunting.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:55 PM
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83. No, but I'll be checking it out. thanx. ~nt~
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:40 PM
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72. All too many of them assholes ran away with oodles of big bucks...
Hard to forgive them while we struggle and they sipping their Coronas.
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 12:42 PM
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73. On mark again. Great post
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:05 PM
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75. Excellent post Nance, BUT...
I gotta take you on about ONE THING.

Forgiveness.

Forget? HELL, no. We agree beyond question there.

But as to forgiveness, it is VITAL. As Obama correctly points out, we ARE in this together, whether we like it or not. So some way of reaching amity has simply GOT to be found, or we risk turning ourselves into...THEM.
And once we become THEM - we will be giving them back the reins of the country, and that MUST. NOT. HAPPEN.
Ever again.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:27 PM
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87. Who do we forgive?
The thing about forgiveness is that there HAS TO BE SOMEBODY ASKING TO BE FORGIVEN

As far as I can tell, only Colin Powell has, in a round about way, asked for it by his admission that his UN speech was the lowest point in his life, and he regrets it. So he leaves the door open for forgiveness on that issue. Now he made a lot of other bad choices as well that he has never said he regretted so I can only partly forgive him at best.

These other rat bastards smirk and chuckle at us peons below at how much money they made off of the US taxpayer by invading Iraq by fooling most and paying off everyone else. Killing over a million innocent family members to get rid of one dictator? Right. They are the lowest dirtiest lumps of dried shit ever.

If they EVER, and I think only on that Star Trek opposite world would it happen, admit their crimes and beg us for forgiveness I will, in the spirit of 'serenity now' consider it.

But you cannot forgive someone that still thinks they did nothing wrong - and in fact thinks they are above the law and the constitution, and any criticism is persecution.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:37 PM
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89. But you CAN
forgive, even if they don't ask. Them asking for forgiveness is utterly irrelevant.
Forgiveness is NOT. ABOUT. THEM.
It's about you and me.
It's about moving past our hate of everything the GOP has come to stand for - ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY if we're to heal our nation and move forward. While we're gripped by our hate and anger, we're looking backward. Can't move forward well while looking back.
Forgive them anyway. Educate those who can be. Stand guard against those who can't.

I didn't say forget.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:13 PM
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76. KICK! and recommended...
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MarkP Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:21 PM
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77. These essay's need to be compiled in book form!!!
I suggest that all of NanceGreggs writings leading up to this election be compiled in book form...concluding with something following the election.

It would be a nice piece of history!

Long Live NanceGreggs!
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ZeitGuy Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:22 PM
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78. Well, Nance, you've only confirmed my suspicions about you.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 01:50 PM by ZeitGuy
In my short time here, I've come to the inescapable conclusion that, in addition to being a prolific and prodigious writer graced with tremendous feeling and a real knack for the turning of a phrase, you are someone I would not want to piss off.

All due props for giving words what many are feeling, but who may lack the skill, sensitivity, courage or resolve to write or say.

And, a million thanks.
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ZeitGuy Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:27 PM
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80. P.S.
You honor the memory and legacy of that lady in your avatar something proud.
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roberto Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:37 PM
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81. take care, these guys can still steal the elections ...
MCcain is still shouting that he can still win... that it's not over ... How ? I do not know .. but with these guys we never know ... So, words alike "it's over, rest in pieces" ... are much too soon. Let's wait for the election day, late night...
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:51 PM
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82. K&R! n/t
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:57 PM
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84. K&R This post is spot on in assessing the GOP... It is somehow hard for me to
believe you can't forgive when you put things so well but I have great admiration for all of your posts and that being said, I view the last two sentences with an urgent sense of understanding. I too feel I can never ever pull the lever for another Republican no matter what he/she says. The GOP have preached one way and practiced another and shouldn't look for anyone beyond their doors to save them. They've proven themselves corrupt from the word go. There is no ambiguity in their actions. They are as you say "war-mongering, lying hate merchants".

Yes, I believe in redemption but it has to be proven beyond doubt. For eight years they had the chance to do something and they sat on their hands/followed a nitwit and let what they call "country first" slide right out into the ocean. You call it as you see it and I thank you. Please... send us more, Nance.


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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:02 PM
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85. umm - it's not over 'till the Barbie sings...or something...
I will not share the same confidence you do until AFTER it's over...
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:32 PM
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88. well said, Nance
I think that what mclame and mooselini are going to accomplish in this election is the permanent division of the thug party into one camp for fiscal conservatives and the other camp full of right wing, minority-hating, single issue voting, fake xtian fundamental-cases. Neither camp will have the numbers to win for a long, long time. And I'm not crying over that.
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Sander Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 02:55 PM
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90. Nance for President - 2016!
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 02:55 PM by Sander
Go Nance!
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:35 PM
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91. AMEN eom
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rsweets Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:50 PM
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92. Another gem...
You are on fire .... Don't forget
we're going to need plenty of this after the
election too... Thanks again
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:57 PM
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93. And now, the only way to not know is to not want to know. Agree 100% Nance
It is time to defeat the republicans at every level of government...and all those who vote with them. They have proven themselves to be poisonous to our democrcy as the two-faced, self centered selfish hypocrites they are, cultivated by the most hatefilled, hateful, violence inciting, snarling national media war cheerleaders for the past 12 yrs gathered into one party. And to think so many believed their lies until it became so obviousby the disasters that followed them that it was all just pretense. When the millions of dead and displaced and disabled victims of their lies hold them accountable, I will not be satisfied as long as one republican of this group remains in office...you next Lindsay Graham etc...you all next.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:06 PM
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96. You know, you could have just said...
"The King has no clothes" and been done with it :D But your rant was nice too.

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Castleman Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:10 PM
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97. Nance, this may have been said before.......
but your choice of Molly as your avatar is so incredibly appropriate, because I believe that her voice wasn't ready to be silenced just yet. Maybe God said "Nope, not ready for you just yet, I'm gonna put a little bit of YOU into someone else, so your voice will continue to tell the people the truth" In every piece of yours I read, I feel a little of her, the wit and wisdom, but mixed in with your own talent....and it's a suh-WEET read....EVERY TIME!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:25 PM
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98. Outstanding post, Nancy Greggs!
Your insight is only matched by your eloquence.

Thanks for the thread.:yourock:

Kicked and recommended.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:54 PM
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99. Everyone across the nation needs to read this post it's that good print it out and post door to door
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:05 PM
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100. NO forgiveness, and NO forgetting.
Great Rant, Nance!
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:06 PM
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101. Wow! Good rant Nancy....
That last line was bad, very bad.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:09 PM
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102. Your gift of eloquence never fails to impress. [nt]
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:28 PM
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103. diva or devil ? SARAH could you go to the board an turn a letter--> WE'RE _UCKED !
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:35 PM
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105. Now THAT was a Rant for the Ages
Thanks, Nance!! :bounce: :toast: :applause: :patriot: :loveya:
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:46 PM
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107. You are an awesome writer
You need a daily column!
Come on some news person, can't you see her talent?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:54 PM
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108. K&R "I will never forget - and I'll gladly burn in hell" (if there is one) " for
eternity rather than hold out the hand of forgiveness to these fuckers for as long as I live."


Yep. Great rant.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:02 PM
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109. My sentiments exactly!
Re I sometimes wish I was a better person, someone who has the capacity to forgive and forget. But I’m not.

I will never forget – and I’ll gladly burn in hell for all eternity rather than hold out the hand of forgiveness to these fuckers for as long as I live.


I guess it's a good thing I don't believe in an eternal hell and never have, but at the moment it almost seems like a technicality.
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fognozzle Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:17 PM
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110. Two words
De lusional
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:29 PM
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112. You really scratch my political itch in style! K&R
I Do Videos for Change:
Privatize Profits and Socialize Failure - REPUBLICANISM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWxTQbfsEA8


Obama the Baby Killer -or- When Morons Attack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1SrQiHHPAk


Barack Obama - Never In a Beauty Pageant! Can He Lead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGu33jtXtc


Frank Weighs in on the Biden v. Palin VP Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n754FjvGKGQ


Republicans Blame Clinton, N*ggers for Wall Street Failures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAvhWKp0N4M


It Appears Obama is a Terrorist... If You're a Moron!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CunxzR5_8FU
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psomniferum Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:10 AM
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118. Enjoy the vids
Thanks for the video work. Way to :spank: the Republicofascist scum.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:51 PM
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113. Nance I stand with you and all of our friends.
<snip>
I will never forget – and I’ll gladly burn in hell for all eternity rather than hold out the hand of forgiveness to these fuckers for as long as I live.
<snip>

Nothing but absolute destruction of the Rethuglican party will do!!

Well done Nance, Well Done!!

K & R:

applause:
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:05 PM
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114. Sure as shootin', 'they shall return' and I believe, with a vengeance.
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Gamey Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:36 PM
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115. Excellent! And they can take their complicit media with them!
The media has been a willing accomplice in their crimes. Never forget it.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:16 AM
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117. Please God! don't let GWB start doing coke again
He is too close to the button, y'all! He's probably scared little pissy pants about right now. The grand result of his administration is handing the 3 branches of Government to Democratic control is quite a legacy. I hope he puts that in his library.

And I sincerely hope the Democrats don't fail us with all that power.
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psomniferum Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:10 AM
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119. Great post!
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:26 AM
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120. it's a amazing how much is finally coming together for us. K&R n/t
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:57 AM
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121. April, 2009: In news today,...
"...The Senate today has passed legislation, already approved by the House, that will legalize hunting Republicans with dogs, with no bag limit. President Barack Obama has signaled that he will sign the bill as soon as it reaches him."
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:39 AM
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122. OUTSTANDING post! Thank you. n/t
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