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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:08 AM
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Here we go again...Kerry's military service in question...
Found on Free Republic and many other right wing forums...someone tell me that they are kidding with this BS...is this desperation or what...

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On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 MONTHS on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was activing as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. (see photo below). The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Since Lt. Kerry engaged in insurrection, rebellion and gave aid and comfort to the enemy while a member of the U.S. Armed Forces in violation of his oath, John Kerry should discontinue his campaign for the presidency and resign his seat in the U.S. Senate. Kerry disgraced his citizenship, and dishonored the USA. He is not fit for any public office, much less the highest office in the land.

John Forbes Kerry should also be tried for treason on behalf of the thousands of GIs who were killed and maimed while Kerry was aiding their enemy, and held to account for his part in the slaughter of millions of Asians by communists after the US abandoned SE Asia.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:11 AM
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1. He was on the swift boat in Viet Nam for a few months
His service on that ship was also "active duty," and he got combat pay for it. They are deluded.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:12 AM
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2. Fuck those mental midgets!
They can my lilly white ass! :nuke:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:13 AM
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3. George Walker Bush should also be tried for treason
For DESERTING his Air National Guard Unit, getting a honorable discharge anway, wearing a medal he didn't earn, lying about having served in the Air Force!

That's what kills me about these guys--If they're THIS digusted with Kerry, shouldn't they be even MORE disgusted with Bush?

:headbang:
rocknation

P.S. I'm going to have some buttons to sell next week:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:14 AM
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4. DEBUNKED
A very long time ago...ie the LAST time Ted Sampley tried this shit on.

Again I say, someone ask the Freepers how they feel about Ted Sampley also smearing Daddy Bush, calling him a coward and a traitor that let his own men die.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:30 AM
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5. they want to discuss this as nauseum...we need
to ignore them...and Kerry should ignore them...lets talk about what is REALLY wrong with this country...
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Googler25 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:02 PM
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8. Yeah right...
Bitching and moaning about what's wrong with the country: sounds like a stuck needle...I'm waiting for the plan that is supposed to do something about it...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:09 PM
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:50 PM
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15. Here you go.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:32 AM
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6. not worth worrying about
time to get off the defensive and go after Bush.
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Truth is True Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:02 PM
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7. I saw this new smear vet group today
http://www.stolenhonor.com/

They're releasing an anti-Kerry documentary.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:10 PM
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10. How did you stumble on that?
Curious, I never find any Kerry libel.
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Truth is True Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:13 PM
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11. I found it on
our evil step-sister site. Did a google, and found it on a lot of RW blogs and sites.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:17 PM
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12. Uh huh, thanks.
Whatever.
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Truth is True Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:22 PM
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13. Are you insinuating something?
Come right out and say it, please.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:29 PM
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14. Don't even give this an inch!
n/t
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 01:11 PM
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16. Oh...I'm not...
but the freep's and the other republicons are...it's pretty pathetic if you ask me...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:23 PM
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17. I have a question though...
I signed up for 4 years of active duty which 4 years of reserves on top of it...now I finished my 4 years of active duty...then I was put on the IRR...

My questions is...if you fulfill your active duty time...then you are automatically put on IRR right...?
You don't have to do your weekends and 2 weeks a year unless you sign up for the "active" reserves right...?
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