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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:37 PM
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Don't laugh at this "face-carving" if it turns out to be a hoax, guys...
...40 or 50 years ago, innocent people would by LYNCHED due to an incident like this. Neighborhoods would be burned, at the very least. And the police would never tell a tabloid that they were "skeptical" because they wouldn't even investigate. Never mind that she clearly didn't get "carved" by any "knife." Never mind that there are plenty of facts in this story that don't quite check out. As a young white woman, she'd be a victim and THOSE people would be guilty.

It's not funny--and it's sad to think that in an age when a Black man is poised to take the White House, a 20-year-old from Texas would think a ruse like this would work.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:39 PM
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1. Very True, Sir
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:40 PM
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2. I agree. It's dangerous even now.
If I do laugh, it's out of anxiety, not because I think it's funny in any way. :(
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM
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3. I'm pissed ....and I think she is a witch ...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM by Blarch
lets burn her...

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:22 PM
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29. She's a witch
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM
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4. I know.
I'm from a small Southern town. That's why I keep posting about this and want the whole thing exposed for the hoax I truly believe it is. People do lie, they do bear false witness, and it's not okay.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM
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5. Agreed. Their hoaxes are usually more effective than the truth
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM
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6. Mostly, I'm laughing at the people who took this person seriously...
and have mysteriously shut up since.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:42 PM
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7. Thank you so much for pointing this out.
In the south white girls would get people killed with their accusations. "To Kill a Mockingbird" dramatized this.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:42 PM
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8. EXCELLENT point. We need to stay strong and stay in our integrity....
I must say, Obama sets the example very, very well, and we would be wise to follow in his footsteps with regard to incidents such as this (though we can kick some repug ass full on when warranted :) ).

This story also has me intrigued with regard to the power of the blogosphere.

Do you guys realize that a story that could have been manipulated to heights we can all imagine, may have been effectively cut off at the knees because of thousands of online detectives.

It's as though McCain and Co are floating things out there, to see what can gain traction, but the blogosphere is effectively shooting down bullshit within hours.

And, the M$M is following. They are getting their news according to what takes hold online. Pathetic, but true.

Thank goodness for these intertubes.

:)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:51 PM
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36. I think you are right on it. I think they float their memes, see the flaws, abandon and try another
Since all they've got is bullshit they have to come up with the next one. And they make NO headway. They keep getting shot down cuz these guys aren't the sharpest tacks on the board.

I can't believe MSNBC ran with this one.
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:31 AM
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41. Intertubes?
Maybe - but it's DU that's the mutts nutts in times like these.

Some very smart people on here - I'm glad I'm on your side!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:04 AM
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42. LOL. I think it was Ted Stevens....
who called the Internet a series of tubes..."intertubes." We say intertubes as often as the misspelled "moran."

:)
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:43 PM
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9. Great post.
It's a very serious matter. If this proves to be a hoax, the young lady should either be charged and prosecuted, or given the mental help she may need. Or both.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:43 PM
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10. i HATE obtuse posts. what are y'all talking about? eom
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:19 PM
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26. this
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:44 PM
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11. I agree a 100%! I'm so glad this was said. How quick we forget American History.
While incidents like the Oklahoma riots (whites rioted burning down black neighborhoods) and Emitt Till garnered national attention, so many more incidents never made it into the page of a history book. It just makes me so upset that someone would even considered hoaxing an incident like this given our history. But like you said I'm glad that at least now the government does not condone retaliatory attacks, burning down houses, lynching etc. And that the words of this white woman are being scrutinized rather than taken at face value.
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:45 PM
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12. This girl is a grade A retard. I will laugh at her and hopes she gets in DEEP shit for lying.
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instantkarma Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:47 PM
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13. I doubt she came up with it on her own.
To me this most likely came straight from someone (else/higher) within the campaign trying a Rovian trick. I also doubt that McCain knew anything about it. They know they're losing big and will do almost anything to turn PA red.

Obama 401-137.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:54 PM
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14. I don't see a damned thing to laugh at. If it's a hoax...and I think it is...
it is disgusting and could have caused untold, unnecessary disturbances, etc.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:02 PM
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15. Inciting to riot, inciting to hurt people, true. I hope she gets charged bigtime, and worry that
asshole racists looking for an excuse to start some shit don't use this for an excuse. It isn't funny.

For her, it is just sad. For people who would use this to harm others, it is scary.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:04 PM
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16. It is SICK and I hope this girl is punnished for trying to further fan the flames of bigotry.
McCain and Palin are once again to blame for stocking their sheep to feel like this.
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:04 PM
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17. I totally agree
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:10 PM
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18. Google: Susan Smith
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:11 PM
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19. or Darlee Routier
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:13 PM
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20. Don't need to
Everyone over the age of oh, 18 should know the name.

How 'bout Chuck Stuart?
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:18 PM
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24. I was hoping they would go after Chuck with torches and pitchforks.
Instead the coward throws himself off the Tobin Bridge.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:22 PM
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27. How do they know Chuck didn't have dandruff?
They found his head and shoulders.

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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:57 PM
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32. Nyuck Nyuck.
Remember the dead Swedish nanny jokes? That murder has never been solved.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:26 PM
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30. Or Charles Stuart..
that guy who killed his wife in Boston and blamed it on an imaginary Black man.

"On this Day: White Boston Man Kills Pregnant Wife, Blames Imaginary Black Man"

October 23, 2008 6:30 AM
by Vinnie Rotondaro

"On Oct. 23, 1989, Charles Stuart shot and killed his pregnant wife, Carol Stuart. His accusation that a “black man” was responsible inflamed racial tensions in Boston."

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/September-October-08/On-this-Day--White-Boston-Man-Kills-Pregnant-Wife--Blames-Imaginary-Black-Man.html
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:17 PM
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33. Inflamed is putting it mildly
I think the wounds are still carried to this day in some communities.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:38 PM
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35. Police should always remember
those high profile cases before sending out an APB on an accusation such as this.

That was such a devastating crime from afar ..I can imagine close up in the city of Boston.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:32 AM
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53. And yet they never do. n/t
Regards
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:15 PM
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21. I honestly believe the woman has mental problems.
But for her to claim her fictitious assailant was a black man is despicable.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:16 PM
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22. Regardless of the outcome, I'm sure it won't be a laughing matter. )nt)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:18 PM
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23. This aspect is what angers me the most about the story
:mad: :mad: :argh:

It's all fun and games to her. If she wasn't dumb as rocks and came up with better lies, there might be a black man at this very moment being arrested for something he didn't do.
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leftist. Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:19 PM
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25. Goddam what a sobering point.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 08:19 PM by leftist.
Thanks for making it, and for really making me think.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:22 PM
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28. What a dumb shit for brains, it had the stink of
bull shit written all over it from the begining. :silly:
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:31 PM
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31. Thank you... and as someone who lives in the next neighborhood...
I don't appreciate someone stirring up shit in Pittsburgh, much less some snot-nosed "college Republican" coming from Texas to do it!

I have relatives who are older, white, blue collar, and Democratic (thank God), and not exactly hip (to put it kindly). Lot of those people here. They are provincial. They are prejudiced. They think that Scaiffe's Tribune Review is a real newspaper.

It's not funny.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:22 AM
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44. That's why it happened in PA - to bring the 'white scare' vote out for McCain. n/t
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:44 AM
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46. yup... though I suspect this specific incident was more of a spontaneous event...
...not unlike the recent church shooting and Democratic official assassination.

But like I said at the time of the church shooting - one sleeper activated, ten million to go.

They have been weaponized through 20 years of Limbaugh and his ilk - a cynical, criminal manipulation of mind-stopping proportions. The real crime has already occurred, and is bigger than most people can grasp. Of course, when confronted with the inevitable consequences of their actions, bullies have their sickening, insincere escape hatch - "shucks, I didn't mean nothin' by it, I was jus' kiddin' around."

The whole McCain campaign is "white scare". Pennsylvania, a "battleground" state? Please. Since when?

We, the citizens are the ones that have to live with the consequences of their shit-stirring. No, no one's going to burn down any neighborhoods - it's more subtle than that, thank God. Still, there are consequences. As in everything the soulless manipulators and their drones accomplish, real persons are harmed.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:23 PM
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34. It truly isn't funny.
And in a climate in which Palin and McCain are throwing around who is American and who isn't, this is the sort of story that will turn the nuts following them into vigilantes. I just hope that this story will be handled responsibly. Personally, I am afraid what might happen as a result of this.

But I know the MSM is going to make this woman into a poster child of Pro-Americanism just like Joe the Plumber.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:53 PM
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37. That's what made me so angry about this story when it first came out today.
It was reported by MSNBC in a sensationalistic way, and instantly there were a half-dozen threads here on DU talking about this poor girl and how awful it was and how it just wasn't right....

Read the freeper threads about this and you'll see exactly what was intended by this. Designed to stir up fear and anger and scare people into voting for McCain. Just disgusting.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:25 AM
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38. We have come a long way, and we live in a much better world now.
Thanks to us LIBERALS, I might add.

But the OP is correct. This is not a laughing matter. A hoax like this can be deadly. Bearing false witness is forbidden in the ten commandments for a reason.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:13 AM
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39. Exactly. This woefully transparent fabrication appeals directly to the very worst in people.
Her actions were simply despicable and utterly craven.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:56 AM
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40. What if the hoax wasn't found out and she picked some random 6'4" black guy out
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 03:57 AM by gbrooks
of a police line up. Some innocent guy
could do 20 years for armed robbery and
kidnapping because she was too afraid to
admit she made the whole thing up.

And you know this moral infant would probably
have no problem sending a black guy to prison
over a prank.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:09 AM
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43. What if it isn't a hoax?
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 05:09 AM by quantessd
What if the perp is dyslexic and carves "B" into everyone's face backward?
..hmmmm...?





(/sarcasm)
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:24 AM
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45. Or a dyslexic ex boyfriend
and the backward "B" stands for something other than what we have all been thinking?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:17 AM
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47. Ironic that this led to the burning of the "Black Wall Street" given the financial markets today
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 09:17 AM by bushmeat
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:18 AM
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48. You're right, it's not funny. But if proven a hoax, Ashley Todd just guaranteed PA for us.
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:24 AM
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49. I'm taking joy in her demise, but
it's not out of glee. It's out of complete disgust for these people and seeing them get their comeuppance.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:24 AM
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50. What does Texas have to do with it? Didn't Brooklyn have race riots a few years ago?
Glass houses.

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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:30 AM
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52. The twit in question comes from Texas
Why are you dragging Brooklyn into this?

Regards
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 09:32 AM
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51. She's a sick little girl who did something stupid for attention
Let it drop, and be damned glad this isn't 40 or 50 years ago. We have made a lot of progress since then.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:08 PM
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54. This isn't just a plea for attention.
This is a direct consequence of the McCain campaign's continual race baiting, and the McCain campaign would have milked this for the next two weeks had this girl not been so idiotic in her lies.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:37 PM
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55. Damn, too late to R this. K for the heart of the matter. nt
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