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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:15 PM
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Poll question: After their upcoming civil war, who will emerge from the slime pit of the Republican party in 2012.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:20 PM
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1. Sarah Palin
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:21 PM by Seen the light
I know DU keeps saying that she's done even with the Republicans in 2012. I completely disagree. She's still extremely popular with them if you check their sites or listen to them on the radio where you can really get a feel for their doom and gloom for this year.

Jindal would be right behind her, but I feel like he's going to sink in the SC primary. If you look at the early Repub primaries in 2012, they're going to favor Palin with her name recognition.

Also, I know people say it'll be Romney. I disagree again. Is he somehow going to become a typical evangelical between now and then? No? Then how is he going to win Iowa and South Carolina? If you look back on the primaries, he didn't win a single state that he hadn't lived in before or that didn't have a significant Mormon population. The primary voters early that he needs don't like him.

(Hit Jindal's name first without seeing Palin that's why no Palin vote was registered.)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:21 PM
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2. I agree with you.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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11. fat chance
Unless their "civil war" as you put it results in a split (I actually expect this) then she MIGHT be the standard-bearer for the idiot fringe faction. But I fully expect the old republican party to divest itself of the rabble it collected, suck in its gut and accept it will be out of power for a while, try to woo the more conservative dems, build a "new" republican party, quite possibly with a new name. Sure, the fundies and racists that the party uses to get votes for their PNAC-agenda stooges might like her, but the "party" is embarrassed by her and pissed at mccain. So she'd be a third party candidate - let's call it the Looney Party.

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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18. Either Palin or Jindal.....Romney will probably waste another $25-50 million dollars but
Palin or Jindal will likely pull it off. Their nutcase base adores her.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:23 PM
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3. I Think the Republicans are Looking for a Fresh Start
So I would say someone else entirely who's not on the radar now. Who would have predicted Obama in 2004 or Dean in 2000?
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:23 PM
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4. I think Jindal
Its a copy cat world and if this election is the landslide its shaping up to be they are going to want their own version of Obama.

Palin may do ok in the primaries, but she has zero appeal to independents. None. She is a doomed candidate and if they hitch their wagon to her we can start talking about 2016.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:24 PM
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5. Jindal will wait till '16
He's a smart guy and he's not going to get in the way of a GOP implosion. Besides, his reelection bid is in 2011, so he'd probably have to abandon that if he's running for president at the same time.

He'll only be 41 in 2012. He'll wait till 2016 or even 2020 and run when it's a better GOP year.

I think it'll come down to Palin or Huckabee. Huckabee might get it because the GOP elites, though they hate Huck, would be terrified of Palin getting the nod.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:25 PM
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7. Jindal already has an event in Iowa scheduled next month
He's definitely running in 2012.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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17. I still say he's running in 2016
I think he's taking a look at it, but he'll decline if it looks like the Republicans are going to lose in 2012.

Obama ran this year because it looked likely to be a Democratic year and he realized he might not have another opportunity for years if ever.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:27 PM
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9. Maybe, although some thought Obama would hold off too.
Hillary was inevitable after all.

Depends on the Economy as well. If it hasn't turned significantly by 2012 then Romney looks better and can run directly against Obama's economic experience.
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:25 PM
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6. Jindal is the male Palin.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:26 PM
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8. I would've voted twice: Huckabee and Jindahl for two diff. reasons
I think Huckabee emits such a nice guy image. Although I don't like any of his policies, I think he would be palatable to a lot of the middle of the roaders because he doesn't seem scary.

Jindahl, because I think the Repubs are cynical and racist enough that just like with the Sarah Palin pick they will have to pick a "black person" (hold on DU, I know he is Indian, but to certain types he is black) in order to run against Obama.

And, of course, the harpie du jour, Palin, is not going anywhere.............
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:30 PM
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10. Michael Steele
This is how stupid they are. After getting beat by Clinton, they picked a young southern governor.

After getting beat by a black guy, they will go running for the nearest black guy they can find - so long as he is willing to disavow everything about his own heritage. Steele is just their type.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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16. I like your reasoning, but I think if you expand the thought to "man of color"..
.. you come back to Jindal.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:37 PM
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12. Okay, I throwing my vote to Jeb
Apparently he's the smarter George. After seeing "W", we got screwed. We got the wrong Bush in the WH.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:47 PM
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22. Another Bush? After four years?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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13. Maybe Ron Paul or Chuck Hagel?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM by mvd
My hope is that the neo-cons will fade. Traditional conservatism is still bad, but it is more intellectual.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:42 PM
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14. Arnold Schwarzenegger,
but of course they'll have to force an amendment through first.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:44 PM
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15. Short term, I'll guess that they'll ask Newt to step in and run the party
Long term, I speculate that they'll have a serious fight from the Ron Paul Revolution crowd. I also think the fundies are going to make their displeasure known on lack of return on 30 years of heavy investment.

2012: I like Jindal as he nominee and Jeb Bush as the veep and éminence grise.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:07 PM
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19. Newt "I got better" Gingrich nt
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:11 PM
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20. I don't know really but I can't see it being Bobby Jindal
His skin is the wrong color for the Palin racist wing. And Mittens is a mormon so hes out as well.

So who's it gonna be?:shrug:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:39 PM
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21. "What rough beast..."
Palin's out. She's dumber than charcoal and nowhere near as useful.

Romney has the ambition and the ego and the bucks but then again, he lost significant leads in both New Hampshire and Iowa this past winter. It will be possible but difficult for him to win the GOP nomination.

Huckabee appears to have the best chance but by no means is he a shoe-in.

Possibly John Thune. Possibly Rob Portman.

Jindal is too Creepazoid City for GOP primary voters. I don't see a realistic shot for him at the nomination.

I think Mike Bloomberg, especially after today's news from New York City, will be quite interested in the job and will be willing to donate a buck or two toward the project.

I call Bloomberg as the likely frontrunner.


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:48 PM
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23. The fiscal conservatives will be ejected and the GOP will renamed the "God and Guns" party.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:52 PM
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24. Jindal????
He is of Indian descent. Call me cynical but there is no way in the next 15 years that this current GOP will support a non white as their leader. No matter how conservative he is.

Louisiana republicans are one thing, Mississippi, Alabama, Utah, Kentucky, Texas etc. republicans are quite another.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:55 PM
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25. Maybe they'll just disband.
The Powell wing can just become Democrats. The others can just go declare themselves a state in Utah and Wyoming.
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