Bogus IBD/TIPP poll has 1.1% Obama lead- says McCain leads by 50 points in 18-24 yr

[Alhena]

What a load of crap.

http://ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536

[liberalpragmatist]

1. You mean McCain is polling at 50 points? Or 50 points ahead

I'm guessing it's the former. McCain at 50% among youth is probably an outlier. McCain leading Obama among youth by 75-25 would REALLY be an outlier.

[Alhena]

2. Read the link- says McCain leads 74-22% in 18-24 year age group

[liberalpragmatist]

7. Yeah I saw that

They did put an asterisk next to it and say it was a small sample size.

But I don't trust this poll anyway -- the shifts they're talking about make no sense. Why would McCain have gone from an 11-point deficit among Catholics to a 9-point lead in 2 days?

[rocktivity]

Never mind in what country--on what PLANET?

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rocknation

[Democat]

14. Tomorrow it will be 125-35%!

:rofl:

[HughMoran]

17. That's so ludicrous it's not even funny

Obama had like 60% 18-24 year olds at the rally I went to in NH - they are excited about Obama and will vote in record numbers I predict.

[gabeana]

6. I just went to the link

McCain winning 18-24 by 50 pints from memory I think it is 74McCain 22 Obama

[Lex]

15. 50 pints is more like it.

nt

[Jennicut]

3. HA! Very funny. No way will 18-24 year olds vote that way but the Rethugs need some poll

to cling on to, or maybe two with the AP. Enough so that they all don't jump off a bridge.

[scheming daemons]

4. Yeah.... Obama is LOSING 74-22 among 18-24 year olds... RIIIIGGGGHHHHHHTT

[gaiilonfong]

16. there is NO WAY he is losing the young vote

that is a joke

campuses are 80% Obama

maybe they polled Liberty University Ol'Racist Jerry Falwell's school for those results

[ikojo]

5. What makes it bogus?

McCain is running heavy with the negative character attacking stuff and it sticks.

[slick8790]

11. Do you honestly believe John McCain is ahead 74-22 with 18-24 year olds?

Contrary to every other poll?

[scheming daemons]

12. Among 18-24 year olds: McCain 74, Obama 22.... you buy that?

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Oh please.

What makes it bogus? The fact no other daily tracking poll shows it this close.

What makes it bogus? The fact McCain can surge from an 11-point deficit among Catholic voters to a 9-point lead in a matter of two days.

What makes it bogus? The fact he's killing Obama among 18-24.

If that doesn't make it bogus, you're not paying attention.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Yeah

There are like eight trackers out there with leads of one to twelve...

The mean is about six or seven...

Why would someone fixate on the poll that has it at one...

[HughMoran]

23. Honestly, that sound like something a Republican would say

No offense intended, but you really should look at the averages and wonder why some polls are at 12-14% ahead, and others at 1-2%. Use your brain before simply assuming - it's this twisted mindset that the Republicans WANT you to believe in.

[MadBadger]

24. WTF?

[HughMoran]

8. ALL of the known right-leaning polls have Obama 44-48% - it's utter bullshit

These people's polls should NOT be used - they are manipulating the poll results and have NO credibilty whatsoever.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. Drudge will whore this poll out today above all other tracking polls.

[WI_DEM]

10. Yep, crap poll, McCain leading by 50-points among 18-24 year olds?

[slick8790]

18. As well, the party breakdowns don't match up. Something is awry.

If Obama is ahead 84-8 with democrats, while McCain is up 86-5, and Obama leads indepedents 44-39, there is no way that there could be only a 1pt lead. There are simply too many more democrats than republicans for that to add up correctly.

*edit* As well, the conservative/moderate/liberal breakdown doesn't pass the smell test either. This is clearly a vast oversample of republicans.

[scheming daemons]

19. When a poll says Obama is losing youth vote by 74-22... and OBAMA IS STILL LEADING OVERALL....

...you know we're WAY ahead.

[mvd]

26. Yeah.. even in their flawed polls, they can't win

:hi:

[SuperTrouper]

20. IBD/TIPP and AP have to do their best to prevent mass suicide in Freeperland and Senorita Drudge

again, you just have to remain calm and collected because everything is trending our way. By November 5th, we will see who gets the prize of the worst polling outfit in America...IBD/TIPP or AP...there is hope for Zogby after all.

[leftynyc]

21. Laughable

Has anyone ever read a IBD editorial. It's the most right wing piece of crap out there. I wouldn't believe them if they had Obama up 10. But I look at it this way, maybe people will get nervous and realize that every vote counts. NO COMPLACENCY!!!

[phrigndumass]

22. All together now: LOLPOLL

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[GOPNotForMe]

25. LOL! That is LAUGHABLE! nt

[Abacus]

28. Er, that makes the party ID 32.4% Dem, 31.3% Rep, 36.4% Ind

What the hell kind of numbers are those?

(
Or am I a mathematical moron? I solved simultaneously for
84d + 44i + 5r = 44.8
8d + 39i + 86r = 43.7
8d + 17i + 9r = 11.6

yielding

D = .32386
R = .31278
I = .36436
)

[Strawman]

29. Nate Silver caught this too...hilarious

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/whats-wrong-with-this-picture-aka-nate.html