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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:53 AM
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Possible McCain election strategy?
We have all heard that McCain is focusing on winning PA as part of his strategy and is abandoning other states. Many have commented here about how silly this would be since PA does not look like it is even close to being within his reach.
Could this part of his strategy? After the polls close in PA and it is called for Obama, how many on the west coast will think the election is over since the big state that McCain pinned his hopes on is now lost. Could they then stay home and allow a late surge by McCain in states like CO, NM, NV and others? Seems like a risky move, but it makes more sense than McCain actually believing he is going to win a state where he has been down by 10 or so for a while now.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:55 AM
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1. Wont be called until someone gets to 270 including Cali numbers either way n/t.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 07:55 AM by yourguide
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:55 AM
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2. No one voting for Obama is going to stay home. Period. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:12 AM
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9. sing it with me, "ain't gonna let nobody turn me 'round... turn me 'round...." NT
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:15 AM
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10. I want this to be true. It must be true. I will wait to see it to believe it.
And we need to appreciate that this must also remain true until polls close on the west coast.

The campaign and friends of obama must REALLY REALLY PUSH this need to vote.

ALL energy must focus now on Nov 4th being a historic day. So historic that it's worth just being a part of it even if there are hassles to be expected. Even if it means derailing personal lives for a day just to vote.

Even if you are in a strong dem state, you still need to vote and it will be FUN.

This has to be the primary message now... aimed at obama supporters, frankly.

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:18 AM
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14. I'll tell you one thing...
I wouldn't care if Obama had already won and I was the very last person in this country to vote. There is absolutely NOTHING that would keep me from filling in that circle next to Obama's name.

We're making history this time!!!! I'm with ya!
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:56 AM
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3. Answer: None.
:D
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:56 AM
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4. Many, many people WANT to go to the polls this year. That news wouldn't
deter them.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:01 AM
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6. Exactly, the campaign Obama is waging is one of prideful polling
I, and everybody I know that are voting Obama, are proud to do it. We can't wait to get to the polls and vote for him. We're excited to vote for him.

I cannot say the same for anybody I know that's voting for McCain (like all the brokers and traders at my company). None of them are enthusiastic about McCain. They are excited about Palin, she's stupid and easily controlled like Bush (therefore more of the same, they like that as change scares them) and she makes them feel all tingly in the groin -- they really like that. To them, there is only one thing better than getting off, that's getting money. That is the beginning, middle and end of their world.

But they know, under McCain, they won't get that tingly feeling and won't get the money because he's a financial disaster for America.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:08 AM
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7. Last week when I was out canvassing, I met a republican who went to ohio
to canvass for Obama!
I really don't know how many "moderate" Republicans there are, but I'm getting a sense that they aren't happy with their candidate!
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:23 AM
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15. They arent. Just look at the mutiny among pundits and newspapers
The neocon + christian coalition approach to rallying the base has finally crashed.

That's not to say this is over, or that it isnt a tight race in some of these states. Even though i believe there's actually a "reverse bradley effect" in many places (i.e. folks saying they dont like obama when they actually do, and may vote for him)... i wouldn't bank on this.

I think we all have to appreciate just how "iffy" all the polling is this year.

It boils down entirely to turn-out, and we all know it looks good for Obama on that point.

But we need to see it in action before we celebrate.
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dccrossman Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:59 AM
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5. If so, he's more an idiot than we already think
If VA and PA get called for Obama early, it really will be over and done. McCain has no room for error.

I think that his campaign really believes that there's a chance in PA. They have some internal pollster that has convinced them that there is a better polling model than the ones the national polling firms are using.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:10 AM
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8. no
he picked PA because it doesn't have early voting.

each day states with early voting, and there are 34, get that much harder for McC to win.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:15 AM
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11. Why PA? No EARLY VOTING
other big electoral states have early voting - PA doesn't - this gives mccain 10-11 days to campaign and not worry about the votes being "locked in" before 11/2
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:17 AM
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12. WE (as in THE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS) ain't stayin home
we KNOW what could happen.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:17 AM
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13. There is the Mccain strategy to win and then the RNC strat to discredit an Obama victory
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 08:20 AM by Essene
media bias
unfair finances
obama "got lucky" with the economy and other phenomenon
nobody seriously looked at obama's weaknesses
"a lot of americans" (i.e. republicans) just didnt turn out, frustrated with the media and such
acorn and questions about voter registration

Mccain's running out of plausible paths to the white house, and he does need PA, OH & FL as far as i can tell.

He will plug away at obama on working class stuff and taxes, trying to leverage the character doubts and using his experience argument.

But let's be clear.

Mccain needs Obama/Biden to mess up. Tactically, they are purely reactionary and jumping on the slightest mistake by the Dems to rant about how out scary they are.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:43 AM
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18. Republican post-election plan: WHINING.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:25 AM
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16. There is no strategy.
He is merely hobbling to the finish line 13 days away. He knows it's over and he's actually somewhat relieved. He's done, he knows it, and that's the way I like it. His agenda now is to preserve the cohesion of his base. Unfortunately for all of us, fear and hate, division and distrust are the cohesive features of that particular subsection of our country. May the deities preserve us.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:41 AM
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17. Polls close in CO too soon after PA
CO polls close at 9PM ET, PA polls close at 8PM ET, just 1 hour later. Even a 10 point lead would probably be too small for an instant call of PA, at the earliest PA would be called around 8:30-8:45, and even that is aggressive. By the time PA gets called, anyone wanting to vote in CO would pretty much have to have already left to go vote, so its not going to depress turnout there. The 11PM closings like CA, OR, and WA maybe effected, but they are too far apart for it to matter.
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:50 AM
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19. Hell, your theory is AT LEAST as good as McCain's PA plan!
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