WTF is up this AP poll? Obama and McInsane tied???

[JMDEM]

Where in the fuck did this one come from??? This seems insane, given the other polls I've been reading about today.


AP presidential poll: Race tightens in final weeks

By LIZ SIDOTI – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that shows McCain and Barack Obama essentially running even among likely voters in the election homestretch.

The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as GOP-leaning voters drifted home to their party and McCain's "Joe the plumber" analogy struck a chord.

Three weeks ago, an AP-GfK survey found that Obama had surged to a seven-point lead over McCain, lifted by voters who thought the Democrat was better suited to lead the nation through its sudden economic crisis.

The contest is still volatile, and the split among voters is apparent less than two weeks before Election Day.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gkM0JvRRUl81LuDA_P2t_goU2kGAD93VU2200

[The Magistrate]

1. It Has A Very Odd 'Likely Voter' Screen, Sir

[Trajan]

2. An outlier ...

That has been hacked to death since this morning ....

Feel free to believe it, or choose to believe one of the many other polls ....

[krawhitham]

3. Yep tie race

http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/new-flawed-ap-poll-claims-mccain-and.html

[Bicoastal]

4. Psst...look at the polling company: "Gfk."

As in, "Hey voters--Gfk yourselves!"

:P

[CreekDog]

5. good call man

poll has evangelicals at 44% of likely voters (in 2004 it was 23%)

poll has Southern states at 36% of likely voters --not likely. :rofl:

[JMDEM]

7. Oh my Gawd... Evangelicals at 44% of those sampled???

What a sick excuse for a news story. Okay -- thanks for the good input.

[CreekDog]

12. and yet more problems:

gender of likely voters in this poll 51 F 49 M (54-46 in 2004)

rural voters make up 33% of likely voters in this poll (24% in 2004)

urban voters make up 21% of likely voters in this poll (30% in 2004)

[Patchuli]

6. It's an attempt at spin and it will become magically

true if only YOU will believe!! :sarcasm:

The polls are consistently heavier for Obama so this sounds manufactured.

*edited to add :sarcasm:

[Triana]

8. They have to start selling it as a horserace - so it's perceived to be "close"

enough to STEAL - so they can STEAL it (again) and so when they do, we won't revolt.

[illuminaughty]

17. Doesn't the AP become the voice of the vote tally

on election night? Seems like I remember everything has to go through the AP

[Triana]

18. I seem to remember something line that but can't remember for sure. n/t

[illuminaughty]

24. I'm going to do some research on this

At some point, before everybody gets too giddy about the Obama win, I'll post my crazy experiences from the 2004 election. It's very involved and depressing truthfully. But maybe things will be different this time. Anyway, I remember something about the AP really being the final nail in the coffin if you want a fair election because every result goes through them.

[truthisfreedom]

9. They managed to find a wacko right-wing group of people. Look at how many born-agains were polled.

Don't even think about it. It's meaningless.

[thoughtcrime1984]

10. Of course they are

McCain is running a flawless campaign, and has a great, experienced VP. Er, wait a sec...

[JohnnyRingo]

15. Ha! ... The Bizzarro McCain

Me do everything wright. Me get elected dogcatcher.

[democracy1st]

11. Its a poll not a electoral map

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[amborin]

13. everything on yahoo's news is from AP and all pro McCain anti-Obama headlines n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. Hey, the Concerneders need a poll, too!

[Secret_Society]

16. Go to fivethirtyeight.com...a full explanation of why it is flawed

[mucifer]

19. This scares the crap out of me. How can we stop these lies?

This is not funny!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

21. It looks like Bullwinkle is saying "This is not funny!"

[mucifer]

22. Bullwinkle is scared!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

23. Has he got his hoofves on his hips?

Mooses with hoofves on their hips don't look that scared.

[dorkulon]

20. "the AP poll seriously under-represented young voters and college-educated voters"

http://www.saratogian.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1169&dept_id=602469&newsid=20174280

[Blondiegrrl]

25. It's a bullshit poll. I wouldn't even factor it into the polling average. n/t