WTF ARE OBAMA/DEMS DOING TO HIT BACK ON THE ROBO CALLS AND MAILERS??????

[RBInMaine]

I am so sick and F-ING godamn tired of my party refusing to BLOODY the SCUMBAG LYING Grand Old ASSHOLES !! Once again I received hate-mailers and hate-calls (this time from Rudy THE ASSHOLE IN DRAG FUCKNUT Giuliani) smearing our guy Obama. Again I called the Obama people in my area, and again I was told "We are trying to run a positive campaign." I tactfully urged them to hit back hard. I myself have called and left damn TOUGH messages for the Executive Director of Maine Republican Party who is sponsoring a lot of this shit. I also today sent her a ripped up smear mailer with a strongly worded letter about how this only makes me give more money to the Dems and that my and I will NEVER EVER consider voting R at any conceivable level of government. Now, why can't Obama/Dems do the same. At least come out with hard hitting ads debunking this crap and whacking them with some truth about how desperate they are. But nothing. And then they keep asking for my money. When are they going to BLOODY these assholes, right between their F-ING eyeballs. Get on YouTube and watch old clips of Truman and JFK. Those DEMS knew how to run !! They put the shit to the R ASSWIPES good and F-ING hard. (Thanks for listening to my rant, but I'm just a little pissed and want my party to grow some balls once and for all !)

[msongs]

1. maybe the theory is 'ignore them & they will stop/go away???? nt

[RBInMaine]

5. Yeah, the way the Swiftboaters "went away"????

[tekisui]

30. They aren't working.

[DrToast]

52. Seriously, why would you hit back at something that's not doing any damage? n/t

*

[Top Cat]

66. You just made a great point....

[ikojo]

27. The way the Nazis went away in Germany?

Assimilated German Jews thought Hitler was an aberration in such a cultured nation. They thought if only people ignored him he would go away.

I DON'T THINK SO!!!

[Richardo]

50. You know, the Nazis had flair they made the Jews wear...

[Blarch]

2. Have you ever heard this saying ? ...

"Don't attack when your ahead"

Obama is on auto pilot ....cruise control.

Controlling the media is the name of the game right now....and discussing Ayers for another week wouldn't be good.

[RBInMaine]

9. No, but there are many ways to hit. Simply send out ads calling McCain "desperate and using Rove""

tactics, and then pivot to him not wanting to talk about the economy, then talk about the economy.
It can all be done without once saying the name "Ayres." Also, the new robo call attacks Obama on crime. And, it is all CODEN RACISM. Look at it closely. It's RACIST !!

[jhrobbins]

47. I absolutely agree and I think that they know that there is furious

activity in the 'sub' campaign of people doing just that. They can appear above the fray and others can do the job of countering the mean spirited 'stuff'.


BTW - that's furious as in 'fast and furious'. Just clarifying.

[Danger Mouse]

Hit back how?

[RBInMaine]

12. Call McSAME "desperate" and "using lies and smears because he doesn't want to talk about the real

issues," them pivot to the economy. You can hit him on his pathetic tactics, make him look foolish, then pivot to the real issues. There are MANY ways to do it. I'm saying, do SOMETHING !!

[Danger Mouse]

21. Why do we even need to at this point? You're the one that sounds desparate.

[RBInMaine]

26. Yes ! I'm desperate for the Obama camp to do what it has PROMISED TO DO WITH THEIR DONATIONS:

"Fight the Smears". I ask you again, where is the "fight" part????

[Danger Mouse]

28. They have been fighting, just not in the way you seem to want them to.

[Life Long Dem]

45. They better fight back so Obama can win, or I'm not voting for him! There... take that!!

:rofl:

[jberryhill]

58. There are many ways to "fight"

Obama's positive impression polls way higher than McCain's.

The shit's not working.

[Joe the Revelator]

75. Why do you seem to be operating on the false premise that "your money" buys you anything more then

the satisfaction of helping a good and just cause?

[SoonerPride]

3. I know you're upset, but the campaign seems to know what they're doing.

So I'd recommend you chill the fuck out.

[RBInMaine]

16. After the hundreds of bucks and countless hours I've given to this party and campaign, I certainly

will not "chill the fuck out" when I see ASSHOLE REPUBLICANS doing this shit. Are you a ball-less Democrat too? I say again, YouTube Harry T. and JFK, and learn something. They're rolling in their graves over how spineless all too many Dems are today. Not that Obama and Biden haven't used some tough talk. They have. And there have been some good ads taking McASSWIPE to task, but MORE is needed. YOu never, ever, ever sit and take this shit. Our Senate candidate Tom Allen is going to lose up here. Why, because he was a PUSSY when the right wingers hit him in August with a smear campaign, and he has refused to attack his opponent, Susan Collins, who is one of McASSHOLE'S Maine
campaign co-chairs. If he wasn't a PUSSY, he'd be ahead. No. He's a PUSSY, so she is beating the crap out of him in this environment by double digits. We have a choice with the party. STRONG or PUSSY WUSSY NICEY WICEY which gets us beaten hard every time. America wants STRONG leadership. I have personally put the shit straight to the Exutive Director of the Maine Republican Party. Would you like a lesson in how to do it?

[jberryhill]

62. Hundreds?

My wife and I are in for $2500, and that's not including $800 worth of office supplies.

I'm thrilled by this campaign, and if you think using a pejorative term for a part of the female anatomy is the way to "fight", I'm also thrilled that your mentality is not running it.

[mrcheerful]

4. With 2 weeks left to go theres very little they can do about them

as by the time the robo calls are traced, then court ordered to stop the 2 weeks would have passed. Thats why RW picks the last few weeks to start the robo calling crap, hopefully when dems control the country there will be laws made to stop robo calls.

[RBInMaine]

14. But what CAN be done is to cut radio and TV ads calling McSAME "desperate" and "untruthful", then

pivot to the economy "which McCain doesn't want to talk about." For a LONG time we have hearing
"send us donations so we can fight back". OK, so where's the "fight" part for all the money I've sent????????

[EvolveOrConvolve]

6. The Obama/Biden campaign has started robo-calls of their own

and positive ones at that.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/22/obama-camp-out-with-response-robocall/

[Kdillard]

7. I thought Obama was doing his own robo calls to debunk what McCain and Palin are pushing.

Also like someone has already pointed out they can't do anything really to stop it legally until it is too late. Also don't we have our own mailers out.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. I think I have gotten one or two from Obama, but I know for sure I have gotten several from McCain

[RBInMaine]

78. Don't have to do our own robo calls. COUNTER ATTACK ON RADIO AND TV !!

[seabeyond]

8. firstly i saw a thread where obama is sending out his own robocalls in these areas attacking mccains

attacks. find it, read it, it is good.

secondly, these campaign tricks mccain is using is damaging him and the party hugely. it is losing them votes right and left and having his own party do one of two things

1. calling him out and telling him to stop

2. the extreme in his party are jumping on band wagon, looking like lunatics calling more than half the nation not real americans, anti american, ect... and turning lots mroe people off and doing their own races in.

[Thrill]

10. The unions are doing way more devastating mailers against McCain

[BlooInBloo]

11. Your fail is just a little bit more spectacular than most.

[Cha]

71. Here's one goper's answer to the mcpalin robo calls..

"Wisonsin GOP official denounces mccain robo calls"

<snip snip>

A longtime Republican State Senator in Wisconsin history announced on Tuesday that she would be supporting Barack Obama, in part because of the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign and, specifically, the use of "dishonorable" anti-Obama robocalls.

"All of us should be extremely wary of the half truths and outright untruths that have been spread by the recent negative campaigning and shameful automated phone calls," said Barbara Lorman of Fort Atkinson. "While my admiration for Senator Obama has grown with his positive approach to addressing the challenges facing our nation, my disappointment with the McCain campaigned has deepened. The negative tactics are inappropriate, downright dishonorable and have no place in the State of Wisconsin."

In issuing her statement, Lorman became the latest in a growing line of GOP officials who have publicly denounced the recent tone and tactics of the McCain camp. In recent days, Sens. Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Norm Coleman, as well as former Secretary of State Colin Powell, have all been highly critical of the Arizona Republican's efforts to tie Barack Obama to former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers. Lorman is not, obviously, of the same national stature as these other officials. But her place in Wisconsin politics makes her an influential voice in an important swing state.

The fact that she is a lifelong Republican -- she left the Senate in 1994 and, until recently, was the longest woman serving senator in Wisconsin history -- now crossing party lines is also of interest.

"I'm a lifelong Republican, but Senator Obama is the right leader for our country and will deliver the change we need," Lorman said in a statement released by the state's Democratic Party. "After taking a careful look at the qualities of both McCain and Obama and who would be best for our country, I found that Senator Obama's ability to bridge the partisan divide to work toward solid solutions that will get our nation back on the right track meant he is the right choice this November."


<more>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/wisconsin-gop-official-de_n_136573.html

[RBInMaine]

80. GOOD !!

[Baltoman991]

15. WTF

Have you read any of the polls? Why should Obama drop into the mud with McCain when the polls are showing an overwhelming disdain for the attacks against Obama.

Obama has been hitting McCain at his rallies. He's saying McCain is getting desperate, that he has no plans, no focus.

Relax. Obama gets his shots in. He just does it in a way that doesn't bring him down to gutter level with Palin/McCain.

[RBInMaine]

19. He could cut some clever but pointed ads to punch back on this crap. They should do it. Here's why

THEY SAY THEY NEED DONATIONS TO "FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE SMEARS." So where's "fight" which I was supposed to be getting for my money?????????? They PROMISED !! Or do we have different definitions of "fight the smears" ???

[TheKentuckian]

17. I understand it pisses you off to hear McGollum

his Escort, and their idiot friends tell despicable lies over and over but it seems to be hurting him way more than helping.

Is his crap getting traction that you're aware of? I'd think everyone would see the obvious desperation. They're making some wild statements about debunked stuff that wasn't apparently important until McShame got down late in the game.

You also forget that if we had the benefits of a real media that existed during the times of Truman and Kennedy then the last eight years would have at worst been largely avoided.
You have to play to win, I totally agree with you there but you do have to keep in mind that you must play the game in session to win.

Swinging for the fences and stealing bases isn't going to score you any touchdowns.

[RBInMaine]

29. I agree with your critixims of corporate media, but we have lost recent elections largely because we

have run WEAK campaigns !!

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Are we really seeing "Why Won'T Obama Fight Back" posts now?

OMFG.

Dumbest post of the day.

[RBInMaine]

22. They PROMISED to "fight the smears". I have been inundated with hate mailers and

hate calls, and when I call my local Obama/Dem people, I get WIMPY answers. Now do you want a political party that fights (like Clinton in '92 with their WAR ROOM - man that was beautiful), or a wimp-fest? I'm not saying the Obama campaign hasn't been tough at all. This is the best I've seen in a while. But this hate-call/hate-mail shit needs to be answered, and there are ways to do it AS PROMISED BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN !! I just want them to do what they SAY they will do with the donations they ask for which is supposed to be "fighting the smears". I ask you pal, what am I getting for my money???? Where's the "fight" part???

[alcibiades_mystery]

33. You're getting an election for your money

You sound like a lunatic. Obama is UP 7+% in Maine.

Do you want him to personally come to your house and filter your junk mail? Or shall he magically erase political rhetoric as it has developed over the last 30 years with a wave of the hand and your $25 donation?

The fight part is being a black candidate up 10% in the polls with 2 weeks until the election, if you haven't been paying attention.

But no. It's all about YOU and YOUR needs. Your post is among the most selfish swill I've seen on this website in YEARS. get some fucking perspective, pronto.

[RBInMaine]

72. Boy, you just don't get it. Maybe it's a learning disability of some kind. So I'll try again.

MILLIONS OF DONATING DEMS WERE PROMISED A "fight the smears" response from the Obama campaign. OK. The smears are here. They are here bigtime. Yes, right now we are ahead in the polls. Good. Yes, there has been, in general, a good campaign. However, here are the smears, and it aint over yet. So here I am, one of millions of Dems and Indys receiving all this crap in the mail and on our phones and waiting for the "fight the smears" campaign that WE, millions of US, have paid for and been PROMISED. And I don't see it. ON BEHALF OF THOUSANDS OF US HERE IN MY STATE I called my local Dems and and Obama people and get NO ANSWER when I ask what specifically is being done to "fight the smears" as promised. Is it "selfish"? No. I want the tough response for ALL of us. Is it personal though? DAMN RIGHT IT IS !! AND SHOULD BE FOR ALL OF US !! We have been promised a "fight the smears" campaign by the Obama camp and the Dem organizations. Obama come to my house??? What nonsense to chuck that out. BUT, do I want a tough response from the Obama camp and the Dem party against this hate-filled crap, DAMN RIGHT I DO. MILLIONS OF US HAVE PAID FOR IT AND MILLIONS OF US ARE TIRED OF THE WIMPY TRADITION OF RECENT YEARS OF THE DEM PARTY. (Though, as said, this cycle has been somewhat better than others, and I give plenty of credit for that.) Clearer now?

[alcibiades_mystery]

85. Who can even bother reading your

loopy paragraphs.

We're winning. And you're mad. Who gives a a shit about you.

[jberryhill]

67. And these hate mailers and calls are persuading you to vote for McCain?

Because they sure as hell aren't persuading anyone else either, no matter how many capital letters and unnecessary punctuation marks you use.

[RBInMaine]

73. Unanswered attacks can tip a balance in close elections. Hope it doesn't work. But as said,

there is also a matter of principle here. We were PROMISED a "fight the smears" response. Where is it? If there is something being done to specifically target the R smear campaign, I'd like to here those SPECIFICS.

[jberryhill]

86. This election is not close

Did you like, wake up from a six month coma just a few days before the election or something?

Do you realize that Major League Baseball has agreed to delay the start of a World F-ing Series baseball game in order to let Obama purchase airtime for an October 29 final appeal?

Do you know, if the series goes to six games, how many people are going to be tuning in to see Barack Obama at that time?

Have you noticed that every time people simply confront the fact that he is a calm and intelligent yet passionate person, his poll numbers go up?

Your attitude seems to have come from spending six months accidentally locked in the pantry reading nothing but cereal boxes or something.

[doc03]

20. I got a mailer today from the American Hunters and

Shooters Association telling about how McCain has voted against conservation and protecting our hunting grounds.

[RBInMaine]

24. GOOD ! There are some groups out there with BALLS ! Nice to see.

[cliffordu]

23. Uh.....

winning by 10 points and change.

[Danger Mouse]

25. WHY WON'T OBAMA CHANGE HIS TACTICS COMPLETELY???

[RBInMaine]

32. Polls can change fast. But again, my point, where is the PROMISE to "fight" the smears?????

[cliffordu]

36. If the smears were working on anyone but McCain's hatemonger base,

Obama would be all over it like lipstick on a pig.

[Beregond2]

31. And yet, we are winning. How does that displease you?

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. RBMaine is swimming in his or her own shit over something

And wants to project that on to the campaign.

How somebody could complain about being 10% up and running away with it is a mystery at this stage, but there is all manner of personality disorder on this website, so expect ANYTHING.

[RBInMaine]

40. Look numbnuts, you MISS THE POINT !! I was PROMISED that for my donations (MANY OF THEM) that they

would "fight the smears". So you tell me, where is the "fight" that I have paid for and been promised over and over and over again??? And polls can change on a dime by the way. There are plenty of razor close polls: OH, FL, NC, MO, ... Unanwered memes like this can tip a balance. So read closely pal. I've been a loyal Dem for decades and have worked the ground in NUMEROUS campaigns in my area. I am talking about a party that has lost its guts and only of late has shown some sign of regaining them. These smears need to be answered in some tough manner on PRINCIPLE given if nothing else given the REPEATED PROMISES TO "FIGHT HE SMEARS" IN EXCHANGE FOR DONATIONS.

[SoonerPride]

43. Name calling is tacky. You seem to have absorbed the right wing tactics quite nicely.

Grow up, numbnuts.

[RBInMaine]

49. I was name-called, and you're talking to someone who has given enough time and money to

the Dem party to sink a battleship, so read about my ATTACKS against the right wing pukes you just compared me to before you say this crap to me. Man, I don't get it. Is there some wimp gene that has infiltrated some people in the Dem base? Man, I wish we could bring Truman and JFK back to
re-train this party. I will say this. Obama has done better than many past Dem prez candidates, and I like Biden's bite. But they need MORE of it, AS PROMISED FOR DONATIONS !!

[SoonerPride]

55. 1. There was no name calling in the previous post.

2. I'm glad you gave money, but it shouldn't be conditional on gettign some kind of response to which you, personally, and you alone, approve of. you have to have faith that they know what they are doing. The proof of that is the success they have had. Had Hillary won, I have no doubt the campaign on our side would be just as ugly. And many people would be disgusted and stay home from the polls. But this campaign is about CHANGE, which means we destroy them with money and ads and a ground game which breaks their fucking spirit.

So cheer up.

Your money is being put to good use.

We're winning by doing it the right way.

[jberryhill]

88. He seems to want the Obama campaign to adopt the outstanding persuasiveness he demonstrates here

[alcibiades_mystery]

87. Your point misses reality

Obama has countered every smear they've thrown at him, and is 10% up in national polls.

Your point is as worthless as your lunatic formatting.

[RBInMaine]

35. It doesn't, But polls can change fast, some states are VERY close where these

memes, if unanswered, CAN tip a balance, AND, again, I have been PROMISED a "fight" of the "smears" for my many donations. So I ask, where are the "fights against the smears" that I was PROMISED for my donations?????

[SoonerPride]

39. Take a valium. We're winning and winning big. Let them dig their own hole.

All the hate and vileness they are spewing is turning off 75% of America.

Seriously.

Calm down.

[jenmito]

37. They have response robocalls and mailers. n/t

[BlueStateMind]

38. 95% of robocalls just get hung up on within 3 seconds anyway

the rest are picked up by talking parrots, helper monkeys, and republicans

[RBInMaine]

42. They leave messages.

[SoonerPride]

48. Delete them.

Fight back youself.

What are you 13?

If the campaign doesn't sink to their level and roll around in the mud and lie then we're weak?

WE ARE CRUSHING THEM WITH ADS AND WINNING A LANDSLIDE.

THAT IS WHAT FIGHTING BACK LOOKS LIKE.

[RBInMaine]

53. Gee, phone calling, canvassing, sign posting, CALLING THE MAINE REPUBLICAN PARTY

MYSELF AND CHEWING THEIR ASSES OVER THE PHONE, sending them letters and ripped up mailers chewing their asses, begging my own party to FIGHT,... how much more can I do??? Yes, I know we're up in the polls. BUT, unanswered memes can tip balances in close states, AND we were PROMISED that they would "fight the smears". And yet no one will tell me how they are "fighting the smears". (????)

[SoonerPride]

59. THE GROUND GAME IS DESTROYING THE REPUBLICAN MACHINE.

You don't have to fight fire with fire.

You can use an effective surround, section, suppress, and eliminate strategy, that leaves more property intact instead of carpet bombing the entire country.

They are playing chess and you want them to play mud wrestling.

We're not just going to win this election, but we're going to decimate the republican machine for the next generation.

Oull your head up and see the playing field.

We're wiping them off the map from coast to coast.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIGHT THEM. THIS IS HOW YOU WIN. IF YOU MAKE YOURSELF INTO A LYING MUCKRAKING MORON, THEY WIN.

Why?

Because then WE DON'T STAND FOR ANYTHING. To be credible, we have to LEAD BY EXAMPLE. And that is appealing. It's not just more of the smae crap spewed by both sides.


As Powell said, this is a transformative figure. We're chanign the way the game is played.

We've invented the forward pass.

[HughMoran]

41. Rachel is talking about it now

Fucking robocalls are disgusting.

[NEDem]

44. Nominated for "Stupidest post of the month"

Take a chill pill and enjoy what is about to happen.

[RBInMaine]

57. I know we're up in the polls. I also know that I have not received the "fight" of the smears I was

DIRECTLY PROMISED for my money. Do you want a party with balls that fights back on principle, or do you want this "nicey wicey wimpy" crap that has gotten beaten out of sight time and time and time again. I'm not just talking about this election. I'm talking about all of them. Come to my area and get inundated with hate calls and hate mailers, call your local Dems and get a wimpy reply, and then tell me how you'd feel.

[SoonerPride]

61. We're fighting by winning.

Care to explain that one away?

Or do you need a binky?

[RBInMaine]

65. Gee, there's a "specific" answer to a specific answer. Change your diaper and try again.

[jberryhill]

89. Have you noticed an interesting fact about this thread....

Your approach and attitude have failed to persuade very many people to agree with you.

Do you know why that is?

[RollWithIt]

46. They're spending 100 million dollars a month in advertising, ground operations, and other asskicks

And it shows when you look at the polls.

[RBInMaine]

60. Good. I know. They need WAR ROOM RESPONSE to the smear campaign though. Where is it???

[RollWithIt]

93. Everywhere? 10 times an hour on your television?

You havent noticed?

[Starry Messenger]

51. .

[jberryhill]

91. ROFL!

Seriously. This guy should donate his caps lock key to the Obama campaign.

[jberryhill]

54. The negative stuff is hurting McCain more than helping him

All of the poll internals indicate that with increased negative attacks by McCain, the only effect has been to increase McCain's negatives, while Obama's net positive has continued to increase.

The effect here is palpable and measurable.

McCain is caught in a Chinese finger trap. The harder he pulls, the more he's stuck. And there is utterly nothing he can do at this point to go back and re-deal the deck.

Voters by a significantly large margin have decided that he's got nothing to sell but attacks which they are tuning out.

He can tattoo "Ayers" on every voter's foot, but by a 2-1 margin, voters are more repulsed by Palin than they are at all concerned about the negative bullshit slung by McCain - and on which he has lost credibility.

[bevoette]

56. what are they doing? they're winning LOL (nm)

[RBInMaine]

63. Where is the "fight of the smears" I was DIRECTLY promised though? Any answer???

[SoonerPride]

70. Here you go

You don't have to fight fire with fire.

You can use an effective surround, section, suppress, and eliminate strategy, that leaves more property intact instead of carpet bombing the entire country.

They are playing chess and you want them to play mud wrestling.

We're not just going to win this election, but we're going to decimate the republican machine for the next generation.

Oull your head up and see the playing field.

We're wiping them off the map from coast to coast.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIGHT THEM. THIS IS HOW YOU WIN. IF YOU MAKE YOURSELF INTO A LYING MUCKRAKING MORON, THEY WIN.

Why?

Because then WE DON'T STAND FOR ANYTHING. To be credible, we have to LEAD BY EXAMPLE. And that is appealing. It's not just more of the smae crap spewed by both sides.


As Powell said, Obama is a transformative figure. We're changing the way the game is played.

We've invented the forward pass.

Do you understand?

Can you get it through your head?

[RBInMaine]

74. I'm NOT saying to "smear them back." I'm saying, FIGHT back, and there are many ways to do it as I

say above. I know what has been going into the groundgame. I've been PART of it right here in my town. Where is the PROMISED "fight the smears" response??

[SoonerPride]

79. The massive groundgame IS the fight the smears reply.

They call Obama a socialist or say he's a terrorist and he blithely goes along and had 80+ offices in ALL THE RED STATES. That's not 80 offices total, THAT'S 80+ OFFICES IN EACH ONE!!

They waste their money on 20th century tactics like lame robocalls full of lies which 99% of people simply hang up on and mailers and expensive postage which people throw in the trash, menawhile team Obama takes over Kerry states, Bush states, purple states, and red states.

We are dismantling them once and for all.

THAT IS HOW YOU FIGHT THEM.

You outwork them.

Their ridiculous nonsense might have worked in the past. But you out-organize them and all they have left is petty lies and the public sees for themselves who is calm, cool, collected and who looks afraid, petty, and desperate.

THIS IS THE FIGHT YOU WANTED AND THIS IS HOW YOU WIN IT.

[RBInMaine]

81. I AGREE !! I am just saying, do BOTH. There are tactful ways to hit back HARD !!

[SoonerPride]

82. THE TACTICS OF THE PAST NO LONGER APPLY

We have moved into 21st century political strategy and they think their robocalls have power, when really they just waste their money.

We're playing to win, not just stay even.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

64. Wow, never met a Maine-ian who was so cool

[Teaser]

68. All caps makes everything so much more cogent

.

[jberryhill]

69. He's a manly-man

And YOU are a DIAPER wearing PUSSY who isn't FIGHTING THE SMEARS!!!!!

Hoo boy.

[RBInMaine]

76. Well, look, truth sometimes hurts, but the plain fact is that too many Dems need to learn that we've

been beaten way too many times in way too many elections in way too many recent years because we've run wimpy, shitty, unfocused campaigns. Remember Willy Horton? Remember the Swiftboaters?
Obama is running a good campaign in general especially compared to others. However, we've got a SENATE campaign up here where we are headed for defeated for the very reasons I say here. No questions. WIMPY campaign. So call me "manly" if you want. I take it with pride. About time Dems grew balls again. Again, YouTube Harry T. and JFK. They'll show you the right way. Then you can mock them too as "manly men".

[jberryhill]

83. I promise you, there is nothing in anything you've said which remotely "hurts"

And I so totally get your point about weakness being associated with the word "pussy", and strength being associated with the word "balls".

Now that you put it that way, I suppose the Obama campaign should completely change tone and tactics because some wimpy-ass pussy is peeing his diapers over the fact that we are winning, and doesn't have time to read enough analysis about why the fuck that is.

My god... Hannibal sacked Rome by invading with elephants. Shit, we gotta get some elephants.

Different war, different strategy.

[SoonerPride]

84. They're DEAD men. And so is McCain's campaign. It reeks of the past.

Old men.
Old ideas.
Old strategies.

We've moved on.
The country has moved on.

We're not about the daily tit for tat. The call us a name, we call you a name, petty back and forth.

We're building an army of activists from coast to coast to decimate the republican machine. Dismantle it and throw it on the trash heap of history.

THAT IS CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

[MadBadger]

77. Whatever they are doing is working...doncha think?

[aaronbees]

90. Did you miss Joe Biden talking about it?

Here in Nevada talking about it last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6AKFIVYi94.

And did you miss this from Obama's fightthesmears.com site? Taking action: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/27/RoboSleaze.

I also just received this bulletin through Obama's MySpace page:

"The McCain campaign is flooding swing voters with "robocalls" -- automated phone calls smearing Barack's character.
They don't hurt Barack, but these dirty tactics hurt America by distracting voters from the issues that matter.
But just one phone call from you is enough to counteract dozens of these dishonest "robocalls." You can help a supporter find their polling location or reassure a voter who needs to hear the truth about Barack.
Our opponent's automated "hate calls," as John McCain once called them, won't reform health care or make our economy fair again. They will only mislead voters with lies and distortions.
The voice of a supporter like you will always be much stronger.
I hope you'll take the time to join us and make these important calls.
It's up to us to show that this grassroots movement will do what it takes to change politics in America.
Thanks for everything you're doing,

Martha & Scott @ Obama HQ"

Oh, and the campaign is unleashing a robocall response: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/obama_camp_releasing_response.php


And if you think this campaign hasn't been playing tough when it needs to, you just aren't paying attention.

[depakid]

92. one thing we don't need to do is go histrionic

Just sayin'

[AuntPatsy]

94. Don't answer numbers that are not familiar and if you do, simply hang up when

you realize its not someone you wish to talk to and spam is easy to delete, no need to open that garbage...