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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:44 PM
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Make no Mistake..."they" will Try to Steal PA
Maybe more, but PA is on the top of their list. Their plans are obvious in McCain spending so much time in a state where he's down HUGE...but pulling out of states like CO where it's closer in the polls. This is why we can get complacent and think it's over, these people have no morals whatsoever. Truly Machiavellian in their mentality and political practice.
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FUCK_BUSH Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:50 PM
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1. I 100% agree and i hope obama camp is on top PA.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:52 PM
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2. Turnout, Turnout, Turnout
...helps overcome most types of voter fraud.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:11 PM
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9. It's Almost All Paperless!
We have a "Democratic" governor who fought us on getting a paper trail.
Who knows whose side he really is on, or if he is being blackmailed somehow.

They can steal as many votes as they need to "win" in PA, just like they do in GA. :(

I hope we can nail down enough other states to pull this out.

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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:03 PM
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19. I think you've got the key reason to focus on PA: the machines can be rigged.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:11 AM
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22. Many elected officials haven't a clue
...when it comes to technology. Your Guv is more likely a typical luddite dipshit, not acting from malice.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:53 PM
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3. This wasn't difficult to figure out
Seeing as they've essentially said such.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:53 PM
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4. Rendell already warned the Obama campaign that something is going on
He should know best and Obama should listen to his advice. If Rendell says Obama needs to make some campaign stops in western PA, Obama should listen and do it.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:12 PM
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10. Rendell Should Have Listened to Us When We Begged them to add a Paper Trail
He fought us on that. Not good. Not good at all.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:55 PM
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5. It's over.
Obama is going to win. McCain is down 11 points in PA with less than two weeks left.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:05 PM
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7. Election fraud can erase a poll lead like that Irishman
I think it's pretty clear what they plan on doing.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:46 PM
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14. Unlikely.
McCain can't steal PA. They're not going to steal PA. This isn't about stealing PA. It's about giving the base a reason to hold out hope. You never give up a campaign and with all the red states flipping Obama's way, he needed to at least give it a go in a blue state with a large number of electoral votes. Pennsylvania is that state. They realize they're losing. We know they're losing.

It's like a football game. You're down 21 with a 2 minutes left. You have the ball on the 50 yardline and I doubt you just knee it. You at least continue playing until the final tick, even if you already know you're going to lose.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:56 PM
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6. I'd like to borrow a line from Andrew Jackson:
"By the Eternal, they shall NOT sleep on our soil!"
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:09 PM
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8. I agree with you toally, and hope that if it is this obvious to us, the Obama folks have
a plan to counteract this.... I hope...
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:24 PM
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11. I've been hoping for quite awhile that we have some moles in the e-vote companies
Obama's team have been on top of everything so far. I just hope they're on top of this. It's obviously not something they can talk about publicly, before election day.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:33 PM
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12. Guess we have to have faith in Obama and his team. They have done pretty well so far.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:11 PM
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18. That assumes Rendell is on Obama's team.
And I'm not convinced that he is. He could have taken these goddamn corrupt machines out of the equation, and if there were a "different" nominee, you can bet he would have.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:39 PM
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13. OMG - they're going to keep bringing up the Bradley effect and
the surprising amount of (not so) underlying prejudice in western PA that stayed "under the radar". That combined with no paper trail . . . it all makes sense now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:49 PM
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15. Of course they will. There were reports at my
Mohawk Valley for Obama meeting last night from those who went there on the ground that mccain's thugs have swarmed on Philly and Pittsburgh to suppress voter turnout on election day.

Yesterday on DU ..it was reported they have palin enscounced in PA.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:59 PM
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16. I'd like to know if the Justice Department..
is going to respond to the letter sent by the Obama Campaign Counsel regarding investigating the current GOP actions as they pertain to the 2006 Attorney General Firing Scandal. That would put an end to the whole ACORN bullshit.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:07 PM
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17. I will offer full redemption for anyone who steals this election
Their crimes will all be forgotten if they say they like someone who I like a few years from now.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 03:38 AM
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20. and FLA . . . and OH . . . and oh so many others . . .
they're not fooling around . . . they know that the only way McCain wins is outright theft . . . and they're going to do everything in their power to see that it happens . . .

this election is not over by any means . . .

"It's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes" . . .
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:29 AM
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21. Seeing the reports of vote flipping, I wouldn't doubt it for a second
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:27 AM
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23. McCain's not down huge in PA
he's down by just enough to make it difficult, but not impossible. If he was down huge he'd not be here.
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MJkcj Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:59 AM
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24. I admit it makes me nevous BUT
Obama is way too smart to let mcCain stal his election. I beliueve the republicans are going to try but I have to believe the obama campaign is on top of this.
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serrano2008 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:19 AM
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25. They're going to have to steal way more states than just PA though
I'm not being overconfident but this is unlike 2000 when all they needed was FL and 2004 when all they needed was OH.

McCain has to win ALL of the toss-ups! FL, OH, PA, IN, MO, VA, NC....and some of those aren't even toss ups. They might be able to pull it off in one state but not in all the states he'll need to win.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:19 AM
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26. And make no mistake... THEY WILL FAIL.
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