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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:06 AM
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All the polls are wrong! After all, they are based in "pro-Liberal, anti-Conservative" territories
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 07:06 AM by jefferson_dem
Ah...desperate, wild-eyed rationalization by the idiots on the Right. Good fun..


Gallup and New CokePosted by DJ Drummond
Published: October 21, 2008 - 1:39 PM

The polls are wrong this year, very wrong. I have been saying this for months, and I have backed up my claim with both statistical and anecdoctal support. The claims I have made have inspired some, caused others to laugh in derision, and brought others to test their assumptions and revisit the hard data. Along the way, there have been a lot of questions about how and why the polls could be wrong. The most common complaint, is that for all of the polls to be wrong, there would need to be some sort of conspiracy, or else an incredibly stupid decision made across the board. Well, I am not a big believer in conspiracies, but I do think that the polling groups have fallen into a groupthink condition. I wrote earlier about the fact that of the major polling groups handling national and state polls, all of them are based deep in pro-Liberal, anti-Conservative territories.

Here's that list of headquarters again, just to punch in that point again:

Poll Headquarters
ABC News 77 W 66th St, #13, New York City, New York
CBS News 524 W 57th St, New York City, New York
FOX News 1211 Avenue of the Americas, New York City, New York
Gallup 901 F St NW, Washington DC
Hotline 88 Pine St, 32nd floor, New York City, New York
IBD 12655 Beatrice St. Los Angeles, California
The Los Angeles Times 202 W 1st St, Los Angeles California
Marist Institute 3399 North Rd, Poughkeepsie, New Jersey York
Mason-Dixon 1250 Connnecticut Ave #200, Washington DC
Newsweek 251 W 57th St, New York City, New York
The New York Times 1 City Hall, New York City, New York
Pew Research Center 1615 L St NW, #700, Washington DC
Quinnipiac 275 Mount Carmel Ave., Hamden Connecticut
Rasmussen 625 Cookman, #2, Asbury Park, New Jersey
Reuters 3 Times Square, New York City, New York
Survey USA 15 Bloomfield Ave., Verona New Jersey
TIPP 690 Kinderkamack Rd, Oradell, New Jersey
Washington Post 1150 15th St NW, Washington DC
Zogby 901 Broad St, Utica, New York

As I wrote then, it needs noting that all of the major polling organizations are based in locations where liberals are strongest and conservatives weakest, where 'democrat' and 'republican' take on meanings wildly different from the rest of the country. The people making the executive decisions at these polls, most likely including the wording and order of polling questions, whether to focus on urban or suburban areas, the weighting of political affiliation, and the definition of 'likely voter', are most likely in regular contact and association with the most liberal factions of politics. It does not mean that they have deliberately skewed their decisions to support Obama, but it is obvious that there is an apparent conflict of interest in their process modality.

<SNIP>

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/21/gallup-and-new-coke.php
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volatileblob Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:16 AM
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1. LOL So how come they all seemed to push GOP candidates...
before. Man that "DJ Drummond" is a nut. What? Do the pollsters only talk to people in their neighborhood? How come the polls didn't try to "help" Kerry or Gore? How come Gallup played with their internals to show a huge inflated jump for McCain after the convention?



Wacko.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:34 AM
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2. you are not suppose to ask those questions.
But welcome to DU.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:38 AM
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3. LOL Interesting that he avoids researching the OWNERS
and focuses on their addresses instead. :rofl:
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:38 AM
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4. Teh stupid, it burns....
These people should be locked up for their own safety.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:47 AM
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5. Does this idiot think that a polling company should be based on the Dakota prairie?
What are they going to do for employees? Hire prairie dogs?
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