CNN Int. featured viewer e-mail: if we ELECT W this time, all Americans...

[DeepModem Mom]

will be held responsible for Bush's policies and actions around the world.

CNN International solicits viewer e-mails, and features them on air through the day. The message of this featured e-mail was that the world understands the circumstances of the 2000 election, and has not held the American people responsible for the Bush regime. But if we freely choose to elect him this time, the American people will be seen as approving of Bush's policies and actions and will be held responsible for them. That is a scary thought not only for Americans who have to spend time abroad, without the army of security that accompanies George Bush on his foreign travels, but for those at home. Even if Bush prevails, in all probability half of America will not have voted for him -- but I have a feeling that the writer of this e-mail is expressing an attitude that, regardless, many around the world will share.

[mopinko]

1. yup

w, and us.

[Renew Deal]

2. That's exactly right.

They don't hate the citizenry because we voted for someone else last time anyway. This time we will be seen as supporting what he does.

[Justice]

3. I said this exact thing to my husband last week

I totally agree

We keep telling ourselves that the world doesn't hate Americans, they dislike Bush. If Bush is re-elected, then Americans will be responsible - b/c we will be seen as approving of Bush's policies and actions.

[Jawja]

7. And we WILL

be, if he is constitutionally elected in November.

Americans WILL be approving of militaristic imperialism in the name of "regime change to spread democracy" in order to secure and maintain the flow of oil.

This agenda has been laid out plainly by * in his convention speech and by Newt Gingrich yesterday on MTP. Gingrich referred to *'s defense policy, which reflects PNAC.

The rest of the world will not consider ignorance and blind faith of Americans as an excuse to let these criminals continue death and destruction in a "Chrisitan" crusade.


on edit: I changed "legally" elected to "constitutionally" elected because * was legally elected through Supreme Court intervention, but not elected according to the U.S. Constitution. Scalia committed treason when he stopped the vote count in Florida. The Constitution clearly provides guidelines for states to submit electors to the House and Senate for President. If Florida had been free to work within it's legal system without intervention, Florida had options on dealing with a disputed vote count.

[blondeatlast]

8. We WILL only have ourselves to blame, I'm afraid.

Even if this one is stolen, too.

It's our own damn fault.

[clydefrand]

4. I agree with the premise of this email

I have a friend in the Netherlands who attests to the fact that the people he knows there have a very low regard for Bush. I probably will not be going to a foreign country again in the next four years if Bush is "reinstated".

[blondeatlast]

5. True. I have many in-laws abroad, in India, Singapore,

Hong Kong, and they despise Bush, but they also realize the election was stolen, and don't blame us.

But they have made it clear that if he's re-elected (oops; ELECTED), they will blame US citizens. These are rational people.

This issue needs to be addressed by Kerry's surrogates on the talk shows, etc.

Edit: this is homepage material.

[readmylips]

6. Agree...foreign friends I know said...

if the American people elect bush, a man who is hated throughout the world, respect for the American people themselves will be a tragedy. The blame will be placed on the American people, and they better stay home and not travel abroad. The hate will triple.

[AnnInLa]

9. personal experience in Mexico

I spend alot of time on the island of Isla Mujeres, which is a ferry ride away from Cancun. Friends and I crossed by ferry into Cancun to see the movie, "Pearl Harbor." In the movie, when the Japanese start bombing Peral Harbor, all of the Mexicans in the audience stood up and cheered and clapped. We just slunk down in our seats, afraid to be noticed. I don't know exactly what this experience means, but it was a little humiliating.

[AnnInLa]

10. PS.....CNN International

CNN International is the CNN channel we get down there, and it is much more "fair and balanced" than the US version. Well, I guess it has to be, but it's quite refreshing to watch CNN from there.

[blondeatlast]

12. It's available on most satellite systems--my Asian Indian

husband and I watch it, INT, and lesser, BBC almost exclusively.

It's like a different network entirely.

[DeepModem Mom]

13. CNN International proves that CNN can be a news organization --

shame on the powers that be at Cable News Network for allowing CNN domestic to become what it's become.

[murray hill farm]

14. Isla Mujeres??

i live on the island...a wonderful place! The people who i talk to here..the mexicans on the island..believe that the chimp is insane..and should be legally declared as such...they cannot understand why we have allowed him to continue in office this long...and sure...they do wonder what is wrong with us all in the usa.

[AnnInLa]

15. wow....who are you? do you know "mayor ralph" or "big jim"

or Julie and Marco, or Sergio and Charrissa? or Joy?

[murray hill farm]

17. yep to all your questions..and

and i bought my house from marco..it was his personal house..small world, eh! My name is Pat Murray..and i have lived on Isla for the past three years.

[AnnInLa]

20. Hi Pat! check your DU email!!.....n/t

[TriMetFan]

37. I was just down there end July/start August.

My Aunts and family all kept asking if Bush was going to declare war on them too. At first I thought they were joking but they are very scared of Bush. I will say this, the people I talked to down there are hoping that Kerry wins. They see the U.S. as The Super Power gone crazy. So I'm not surprised that the audience stood up and cheered.:(

[WyLoochka]

11. The rest of the world WILL

form economic and military coalitions in opposition to the assertion of US power - they'll have to. They're already doing this, but it will rapidly escalate if BushCo is actually elected.

I agree, they've given us, the people, the benefit of the doubt due to the rip-off of '00. If we fail to do as the people of Venezuela did and stand up against these radical oilocrats, we will have hell to pay in the future.

[xchrom]

16. indeed

what else can you say -- it's hard enough that as an american i share this beautiful land with millions of superstitious thugs and free market pirates -- that the rest of the world will finally come to the same conclusion is only right.

[msongs]

18. so many americans pretend to be something else for...

I have read so many overseas americans are pretending to be candadian or australian or something else when conversing with strangers....especially americans in iraq of course....very sad

[DeepModem Mom]

19. That's true, msongs -- welcome to DU!

[Yavin4]

21. Put Yourself In The World's Shoes

The leader of the most powerful nation on earth has declared that he can and will invade any nation that's a threat to the U.S. without provocation, and the people of the U.S. have affirmed that philosophy through the electoral process.

Bottom line, people are people everywhere, and they sure as hell don't like to feel humiliated nor intimidated by anyone or anything. That's what's driving the anti-U.S. sentiment. Sooner or later, the world will build up it forces to confront the bully.

If you don't believe me, ask the Olympic USA Basketball team.

[peacetalksforall]

22. I still say we should split the country without shedding blood....

we should give the right wing and their supporters 1/3 of the country - because that is their true base. I'm serious. I'm tired of their policies, their domination, their hypocrisy, and their thefts. Let them take their right wing corporations with them and let their own children support their own wars.

[Triana]

23. that's EXACTLY what I've been telling folks...

...for the past year or so. Because Putsch had no mandate when he was selected - worldwide, folks pretty much see his moronic policies as the government's rather than 'the people's'. BUT, if this moron gets in AGAIN that essentially says "we approve of bu$hit's policies"...and THAT, is a DANGEROUS place for us to be in, I think.

The terrorists won't hate us because of our 'freedom' - because we won't have anymore of that. They'll hate us because we APPROVED bu$hit and his assinine policies.

We simply CANNOT afford 4 more years of this MORON in the White House. Our very lives may depend on it. Not just our livlihoods, but our lives.

[stopbush]

24. Sadly, for the Zell Millers of the world, such concerns only

strengthen their resolve to vote for *. Ain't no furriners gonna tell ME who to vote fer! They hate us for our freedoms...and they hate * because he's making Uh-MURK-ah even greater than them even more again...one time. (?)

It's a very R way of thinking: other people doing well somehow diminishes me. R's don't really want the middle class to do well. Policies that "lift all boats" are empty slogans used to paper over racist policies. If all boats were lifted, then the rabble may start showing up at the exclusive country clubs and restaurants, and we can't have that!

The last thing most * supporters would do is to put non-American opinions on the same footing as god-blessed American opinion.

[Kimber Scott]

25. How much you wanna bet Bush supporters don't do much travlin'?

Hmmmmm? Well, maybe, the big mucky muck corporate yahoos, but hey, they just go to encapsulated resort facilities and never have to face real people.

[DeepModem Mom]

27. W certainly did little travlin' -- in spite of the means and opportunity..

to do so. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a more incurious mind than that of GWB, or of any young person in his circumstances who did not travel to quite a number of places.

[Nashyra]

28. I have also been saying the same thing since we invaded

Iraq. I've heard from flight attendant friends that work the New York Europe routes that most are willing to give the Americans a break because of the 2000 election, but if we elect * this time we will have "targets" on our backs because it means we approve. I have a trip planned for May to France, Normany area with our entire family, we will not go if * is elected. I can not take the chance of letting anything happen to my family

[Nashyra]

31. A Democrat friend once pointed out

That all the repuke friends he's had when he goes to their homes there is very little reading material. Next time I went to my husbands golf buddies house I realized their was nothing to read. By contrast it is so funny when people come to my house, they often comment "how do get anywork done?, there are books, papers, magazines, printouts etc laying around. Then when they use the guest bathroom they inevitably come out asking about what theyv'e read in there. I keep a basket of print outs from DU and other sites in the "reading room" Kind of funny.

[DeepModem Mom]

32. Wow, that hit home with me --

Beyond politics even, my kids have always gotten a real kick out of my reason for most anything going badly in a classmate's household. They tell me the situation, and I say, as I've said a thousand times: "There are no books in that house," and/or, when someone has done something really stupid, "No familiarity with the written word!"

[Kimber Scott]

33. It's funny. When I meet a new friend

I soon discover they have tons of books. I'm an artist. I have thousands - art books, political books, history, philosophy and literature. No garbage. Most serious artists I meet are the same way and most artists I know are liberal. I'm a Unitarian Universalist - you know where most discussions start and end? Around books - new and old. Philosphy. Religion. History. Literature. Unitarian Universalists are quite liberal, as well.

Seems, inquiring minds want to know. Open minds make better decisions and know when to change course as enlightenment progresses. Too bad Bush doesn't read.

[Joanne98]

26. YUP. if he's really elected all bets are off........

They know he stole the election last time, BUT if he's really elected everybody is going to wash their hands of us. It's a big deal. One of the worst things that can happen is for everybody to pull their money out of American Banks and transfer their accounts to the euro. Any serious person knows the dollar is the key to our power. There are already people doing this. If Bush is elected it could snowball. Can you imagine a crash in the dollar? That's shock and awe for real.

[opihimoimoi]

29. Then the TERRORISTs will have REAL LICENSE to attack our Asses

Come, we go eat ramen...soon Famine coming

[Seabiscuit]

30. All the Bush recruited terrorists

will strike us and strike us hard, and repeatedly. The world will have no mercy for us, because we will have brought this on ourselves.

[opihimoimoi]

35. Its all very sad, we Americans could have it so much better

but a few are so Greedy its beyond pale...and they have gained control...just as they planned/desired.... but the end they want will not happen...come, we go take a look at all the arrogant Nations of the past... Its all bad and fucked up.

[Irishladdie]

34. I've been traveling abroad

and that is the one thing I tell everyone when I get home. Exactly that!!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

36. I've toyed with the idea of leaving if Bush wins

(I have connections in Japan and could earn my living there), and the reason is that I don't want to be identified with a country where Bushboy could be elected legally. :-(

[RobertDevereaux]

38. I'm afraid this emailer is right about that...

...but it will be the least of this nation's problems.