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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 11:23 PM
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With Polls no longer "tightening"... What's the MSM narrative? How about PA is a tossup!
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 11:49 PM by aaaaaa5a
The MSM pushed the story of tightening polls for nearly a full week. Even though they had no statistical proof to support their claim. (Until today almost all of the daily tracking polls were within the margin of error of where they were a week ago!)

Yet still that was the lead story. The pundits loved to talk about it.


Then today, the same MSM release their OWN POLLING INFORMATION that shows the lead INCREASING! I thought they said "the race was tightening!"


So now that they have lost their latest lead story, what do they turn to next?


Here's what I think we will see and hear....

Pennsylvania is now a tossup!

Pennsylvania is too close to call.

OOH, the race is suddenly tightening in Pennsylvania!

Will Hillary Supporters "IN PENNSYLVANIA" support Obama?

Polls mean nothing in the "T" of Pennsylvania!

McCain internals show a tight race in Pennsylvania!

Pennsylvania, the final battleground state!

And from David Gregory... " Why can't Obama, seal the deal with white working class voters in Pennsylvania?"

And from Pat Buchanon... " Obama is to exotic to be comfortable with his PA lead!"


What do you think the MSM narrative will be now that they have lost their lead story?




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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 11:27 PM
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1. Florida! Florida! Florida! n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 11:32 PM
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2. Your cynicism would normally be considered rather paranoid
...unfortunately, the media seems all to content in latching onto whatever narrative brings in more advertising dollars. You'd think they were on the air to make money or something! :freak:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 11:42 PM
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3. The polls are tightening
against the penumbra of the last remaining mote of a reasonably sane persons oportunity to believe that McCain will get within a stones throw of enough electoral votes to not go down as a joke of a candidate instead of just a bad candidate.
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lessthanjake Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 12:17 AM
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4. Cant blame the media
If the race is considered close by the public, then more people will tune in and they will make more money. They have a vested interest in this thing being "close." It won't really change the ACTUAL election results THAT much. I think if they said Obama was ahead by a lot, there'd be 4 separate effects:

1. A bandwagon effect.
People want to vote for the winning guy, so if they are told Obama will win, they are more likely to vote for him for that reason.
2. A complacency effect.
Some people who would've turned out for Obama might not turn out because they figure he's got it won anyways.
3. A hopelessness effect.
Similar to complacency, some McCain people may not vote because they may figure their guy will lose anyways.
4. A fired-up effect
Some McCain voters may get very fired-up and work even harder to get out the vote to stop what looks like a certain Obama win.

Given that Obama's supporters are more enthusiastic, I think that less of his supporters would be too complacent to vote than McCain's will feel it is hopeless. Furthermore, Obama's ground game is more extensive, so they will be better able to get those voters who might not vote out to vote anyways.

At the same time, I feel that logically a bandwagon effect makes a lot more sense than an effect of having McCain's supporters more fired up and angry about Obama being ahead.

As a result, I think a perception that Obama is ahead is good for Obama. The recent PEW poll found that over 60% of Americans think Obama is very likely to win. This is good for Obama. If the media were not trying to make it look tighter than it is, that number would be higher. As a result, I feel that the media is being somewhat detrimental, but I think that the 4 effects I mentioned largely cancel out. Obama seeming ahead is marginally good for him. Thus its not a huge deal for the media to downplay that. He IS still ahead, regardless of what they say.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 12:28 AM
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7. Good point!!



I agree 100 percent. I hope with Obama now established as the leader, that some of McCain's support sits this one out! I know we will be energized on our side. And if the GOP isn't energized, we could pickup a point or two.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 12:26 AM
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5. Why can't he close the deal with white male working-class voters between the ages of 56 and 58? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 12:26 AM
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6. And DUers will slavishly repeat it.
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