KO says McCain pulling out of Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa. Doesn't that mean we win?

[Motown_Johnny]

Assuming these numbers hold through the election of course......


Excuse my ignorance, but I thought we were in a position where winning Colorado would be enough to put us over the top.

Did I miss something or is this starting to look like it really is over?



EDIT to add, he says McCain must now "flip" a blue state to win

[geckosfeet]

1. It ain't over till its over. eom

[Meshuga]

2. McCain is counting on all of the other red states plus PA.

In other words: he lost!

[AlCzervik]

3. we win when we have won and not until then. McCain is running out of money

so he's trying to somehow flip pa.

[CakeGrrl]

4. Apparently the McCain plan is to flip PA

while holding onto FL, OH, NC MO and NV. That's what they're trying to do.

[fascisthunter]

5. According to Mark Levine (Head-On Radio)

I heard him say as much...

[John Q. Citizen]

6. We don't win unless we get our voters voted. Then we win.

[tulsakatz]

7. I think he's hoping to get PA.....

I heard today he is putting in a lot of effort there......but that may already be a lost cause.

And he only wants PA because they have several electoral votes.....but it's still a questionable outcome even if he does get PA...

[CTyankee]

19. AS I understand it, PA has NO paper trail for its electronic voting machines.

I am seriously worried about this. Shouldn't Obama be sending in 5,00 lawyers to PA to observe and report on this discrepancy?

Otherwise, why is McCain in PA? Gotta be a reason, right?

[BumRushDaShow]

24. There is a paper printout from the machines in Philly. I've seen them. n/t

[tulsakatz]

36. that could be bad........

I don't know anything about that....I heard on the news today that McCain wants to concentrate his efforts in PA

[City Lights]

8. He's moving all his Risk armies to PA.

Captain McSewer's last stand will be in PA.

[nyhuskyfan]

11. Pennsylvania is weak. It's a sitting duck

(obscure Seinfeld reference)

[City Lights]

26. A road apple!

;-)

[StevieM]

40. I remember that! The Ukraine!!! (eom)

[Motown_Johnny]

22. But Obama's September book was worth 150 million. He can reinforce PA easily

[City Lights]

32. He can and will reinforce PA, but read LynneSin's thread if you haven't already:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7550013

[nyhuskyfan]

9. CO (plus NM and IA) + Kerry states = win

We would just need to hold the others. McCain apparently is making a run at Pennsylvania, but New Hampshire swinging to McCain would also be enough to offset Colorado. That's if Obama loses Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, Georgia and Missouri as well.

Right now, he's double digits ahead in every one of the blue battleground states, so giving up on Colorado makes very little sense.

[Thrill]

10. No we still need to keep PA

[Motown_Johnny]

15. agreed, but how in the world can he flip PA when he can't even compete in CO?

[AndyTiedye]

18. PAPERLESS DRE VOTING MACHINES IN PA, THAT'S HOW

[BumRushDaShow]

28. The Philly machines have a paper printout. n/t

[AndyTiedye]

35. verifiedvoting.org has them down as DRE with no paper trail

as of January 27th. Did they add printers recently?

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?topic_string=5std&state=Pennsylvania&county=Philadelphia&ec=mixed&year=2008

they have almost the whole state in red (red on that map means paperless DRE, though that often leads to red shifts on Election Day).
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&ec=mixed&year=2008&state=Pennsylvania

[Thrill]

20. Apparently PA has some very racist parts of their state

That has a few Dems worried.

[Marsala]

27. And on the other hand, a lot of racists are "voting for the n****r"

This isn't some urban legend; a lot of canvassers have heard those exact words. I'm not sure whether we should laugh or cry.

[msallied]

12. He's an assclown.

There really is no other explanation.

[Hippo_Tron]

13. He needs to win Pennsylvania... I would put a substantial amount of money on Obama winning PA

Unfortunately there's no point because the odds of it are so good that the payoffs on Intrade are marginal.

[AndyTiedye]

21. I Wouldn't Bet a Dime on That Election With NO PAPER TRAIL!

[BootinUp]

14. That fellow Nate from fivethirthyeight.com knows his shit.

He described the upcoming slaughter pretty well I thought.

[Bucky]

16. He's banking on Pennsylvania where he's only 10 points down

Expect PA to be this year's Ohio---major vote suppression efforts.

[Marsala]

23. Yeah, good luck with that

The Democrats control Pennsylvania. Any voter suppression efforts will be heavily countered.

[Bucky]

33. This is McCain's only real hope. I certainly do hope PA Dems have this covered

[AndyTiedye]

17. McCain is Planning to Steal PA (Which Has PAPERLESS DRE Voting Machinez!!)

McAin't may be down 13 points in PA, but it's still stealable because it's paperless.

13 points is NOT a safe lead for a Democrat in a paperless election,
ask former Governor Roy Barnes or former Senator Max Cleland.

If they can steal PA, they don't need CO.

[msallied]

25. The state is controlled by Democrats.

[FVZA_Colonel]

30. With Rendell telling people to get back out there and volunteer like he did today,

people there know perfectly well what's coming.

[Impedimentus]

29. The Repubs strategy is to steal the election and Pennsylvania might be an ...

easy steal if they can keep the turnout down. The Republicans are pros at stealing elections.

[Marsala]

31. Pros at stealing CLOSE elections, maybe

2000 was ridiculously close. 2004 was fairly close. 2008 won't be close at all.

[AndyTiedye]

39. Roy Barnes and Max Cleland Had Solid Leads Going into the 2002 Elections

They "lost". The exit polls went missing. "Computer problems".

It stank to high heaven, but with no paper ballots to count, there was nothing we could do about it.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. How was the turnout when Santorum was booted from office in 2006?

No one seems to remember 2006. We also removed Curt Weldon, one of 4 repukes kicked out of Congress from this state, the most of any state... And if I remember correctly, there were at least 2 other repukes who barely won with a recount and I'm hoping we can finish them off.

[RagAss]

38. Same voting machines used then?

[amborin]

37. we MUST keep Penn

Mccain is following a strategy outlined several days ago in the new york times

for a narrow win

by winning ohio, missouri, florida, and one other, plus penn

said to withdraw from all other states