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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:01 PM
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I believe that Pennsylvania is targetted to be the Florida/Ohio of 2008. If you want to come to PA
and help out with the campaign please PM me. I have room for 3 people to stay at my house who want to help with the GOTV in Philadelphia.

The fact that McCain is pulling out of Colorado, Iowa and New Mexico and practically has Sarah Palin living in Pennsylvania - this is the state they hope to corrupt.

We will need all the volunteers we can get so if you're thinking of traveling for the election and want to come to PA, let me know.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:03 PM
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1. I think you're right, Lynne.
PA. WV. MI. OH. FL.

We need people ready to go in those places. But definitely, PA.

And just because Mr. Magoo is pulling out of CO doesn't mean they can't steal it there. CO is ripe.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:22 PM
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19. "CO is ripe."
Makes me wonder if all this hubbub about McC/P "pulling out of Colorado" is a smokescreen. By diverting the Dems' attention--and resources--to Pennsylvania, McC/P could then "do the Diebold thing" in Colorado, or one of the other states they've "pulled out of."

I mean, for Mc/P to put all their efforts and resources into Pennsylvania just doesn't make sense!

Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama
(Starting October 11 partisan affiliated polls will not be added to the RCP Poll Averages.)
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread
RCP Average 10/11 - 10/20 -- -- 51.7 40.7 Obama +11.0
Morning Call 10/16 - 10/20 600 LV 4.0 52 42 Obama +10
Susquehanna 10/16 - 10/18 700 LV 3.7 48 40 Obama +8
SurveyUSA 10/11 - 10/13 516 LV 4.4 55 40 Obama +15

See All Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama Polling Data

RealClearPolitics
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:29 PM
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26. CO AND MI are good to go for Diebolding. n/t
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 02:48 PM by sfexpat2000
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:33 PM
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28. The Dems aren't gonna pull anything from anywhere....
Obama has more than enough money to compete all over the country and go toe to toe with McCain and Palin...

The only way this stragey of McCain's would work is if Obama had the same amount of money as McCain.
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thenext8seconds Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:03 PM
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2. I was actually going to make a thread stating the exact same thing.
You can count on Pennsylvania being the new FL of 2000 / OH of 2004 of this year.

Count on it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:03 PM
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3. So we're going to lose PA?
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:16 PM
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12. GOP filing some kind of lawsuit against ACORN in PA
They're pulling out all of the stops trying to suppress the vote there.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:27 PM
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24. Then no point in holding the election.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:19 PM
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16. I'm sure Ed Rendell has something to say about that
but that doesn't meant he republicans won't try.

I still think we'll win but I really don't want my home state to be the new Florida or Ohio.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:04 PM
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4. this really scares me.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:05 PM
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5. Gov. Rendell is on msnbc talking about voting in PA now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:22 PM
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20. It should be harder to steal with a
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 03:08 PM by zidzi
Dem Gov and SOS. But, they're obviously up to something dirty..they always are.

"Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth Outraged at Partisan Lawsuit Attempting to Undermine Voter Confidence

Last update: 5:18 p.m. EDT Oct. 20, 2008
HARRISBURG, Pa., Oct 20, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Expressing outrage, Secretary of the Commonwealth Pedro A. Cortes today called "completely unwarranted" the Oct. 17 complaint filed by the Republican Party of Pennsylvania and others against the Department of State regarding voter registration processes, and noted that Pennsylvania is ready to conduct a fair, accurate, accessible and secure election.
"The plaintiffs either do not know how voter registrations are processed or -- worse yet -- they know but are purposely trying to misinform voters," he said. "This complaint hides behind the guise of protecting the electoral process when, in fact, it undermines the very foundation of our democracy -- solely for political gain."
Cortes said the meritless suit seeks to have the Department of State implement voter registration and data verification processes that are already in place and have been used by the state and counties for several years. He also noted the lawsuit has the detrimental effect of diverting valuable human and financial resources that could be better used for election-related activities.
"These accusations against the Department of State and the counties.."


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/pennsylvania-secretary-commonwealth-outraged-partisan/story.aspx?guid=%7BAA1B4F2A-3174-4C4D-996D-CB0C444E55F6%7D&dist=hppr
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:35 PM
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29. What did he say?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:49 PM
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31. Mostly talked about the case mentioned in post #20
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FUCK_BUSH Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:08 PM
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6. Can we do mass email or call to GOV and ask him to protect the votes ????
Lets do something people.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:09 PM
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7. It won't be.
By God, it will not be. It will not happen.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:11 PM
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8. heh
did anyone see Ed Rendell on MSNBC (calling in to Norah) saying that this ACORN fake controversy is "cow dung".
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:25 PM
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23. Problem with Rendell (aside from his loyalty to the DLC) is....
...he doesn't believe that Diebold machines are inherently corrupt. And he has said himself that there would be no votes by any other means unless every machine in the state was broken.

We can't put this election in Ed Rendell's hands because, frankly, I don't trust the son of a bitch. His level of "support" for Obama has been about a 1.5 on a 100 point scale.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:11 PM
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9. The McCain camp is, without a doubt, putting all its hopes on PA...
and the idea that they'll hold Nevada, Virginia, Ohio, Florida and North Carolina.

So, while I agree that PA is the only blue state they're still trying to win over, it should also be noted that they have to hold all these other states to make PA even worthwhile to them.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:13 PM
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10. I think that the election fraud will go on there, but it won't be enough.
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 02:14 PM by tekisui
NV, MO, NC, OH or FL,would guard against it.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:15 PM
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11. PA seems a lot less close than FL is...
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 02:15 PM by Essene
i think folks need to support both of these places.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:16 PM
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13. PA doesn't have early voting
That's the main difference and why McCain is banking on PA.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:17 PM
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14. Kicked
I think your right. He's ahead by more than 10 points in the polls there. But there is nothing safe in being cocky.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:21 PM
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18. Around 12 to 13, I believe.
But complacancy is a killer.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:17 PM
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15. Better shot
Doesn't Pa. have a better shot of not getting screwed like Florida and Ohio due to Rendell?
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:19 PM
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17. Ed was just on MSNBC with Nora O'Donnell
Talked about the GOP lawsuit against ACORN and what it's really all about. Rendell knows what they're trying to pull, he knows how to explain it logically and it appears he's on it.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:24 PM
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21. Pennsylvania doesn't have early voting
so it's easier to supress the vote since you'll only need to onslaught the state for one day. And what's even better is you really only have to focus on 2 cities to make it happen. If they can keep voters from Philadelphia & Pittsburgh from getting to the polls then the red will start peaking thru from the "T" zone of the state.

Here's a perfect example of the shit I've seen in Philadelphia from all the elections I've helped work for:

1.) Flyers being sent out with the wrong date on it
2.) Demands from the GOP to move polling locations at the last minute (some of the reasons - not enough parking. This is Philly, most people can walk to their polling sites).
3.) Sending 'interpreters' in that say they will help those people who don't speak the language (I shit you not, they tried this in Rep Allyson Schwartz district in a predominantly Russian neighborhood. Interprettors were not needed - approved literature & instructions were available for the voters).

They will have lawyers flocking the lines of every urban voting district hassling anyone who looks 'questionable'. If you want to win Pennsylvania you have to make sure the votes don't count in Philly & Pittsburgh.

It's scary as hell!
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:29 PM
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25. I live in Allyson's district
Edited on Tue Oct-21-08 02:33 PM by Sugarcoated
I'm poll watching in my precinct in Springfield Township . . . going to a training session tomorrow and will probably do another at the other headquarters in Jenkintown. So they think they can pull an Ohio here, do they? I don't think it'll work in Philly and the burbs.

Edit to add - I think I'll bring my camera, it has a video setting . . . I'll also have numbers for local media markets and the Obama numbers for legal help.

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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:31 PM
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27. This will probably be where the "Army of Lawyers" Obama has assembled will help.
Let's just hope they won't be needed.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:39 PM
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30. If anything is unAmerican
this is. No way, NO WAY I'm going to stand for it. I'll bring a camera with video, I'll have local media phone numbers along with Obama legal contacts . . . let them fucking try it!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:25 PM
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22. K & R! Thank you for your vigilance, LynneSin!
:kick:

:patriot:
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