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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:01 PM
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A McCain "Win" Will Be Theft, Resistance Planned

A McCain "Win" Will Be Theft, Resistance Is Planned
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/36993
By David Swanson

If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the
evening of November 4th, your television will be lying. You should
immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White
House in Washington, D.C., which we will surround and shut down until
this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed.

A McCain "win" will not be illegitimate because I disagree with his
policies, but because he himself has rendered it illegitimate. He and
his campaign and allied supporters have sought to illegally remove
hundreds of thousands of voters from the rolls, fraudulently registered
people as Republicans without their knowledge and against their will,
obstructed voter registration drives, falsely warned students against
voting where they attend school, falsely accused community groups of
voter registration fraud, falsely alleged the widespread existence of
voter fraud, and encouraged supporters to falsely believe McCain's
opponent is a foreign terrorist through speeches, recorded phone
messages, and flyers. Already in early voting in a number of states
there have been cases of votes on electronic machines visibly flipping
to McCain or McKinney when intended for Obama. We will see McCain
supporters on November 4th challenging people's right to vote, seeking
to force people to vote on provisional ballots, and seeking to have
provisional ballots discarded. And we will see electronic vote counts
wildly out of step with the most recent polls, although not with exit
polls -- which we will be denied any access to unless they have been
"adjusted" to match the official counts.

Inciting your supporters to violence with racist and religious lies
about your opponent, effectively alleging treason on absolutely no
basis, should be enough, alone, to disqualify a campaign for the
presidency of the United States. Working to block voters from
registering should be enough on its own. Any of the dozens of creative
forms of vote suppression currently being used by the Republicans should
be enough. And allowing votes to be counted on completely unverifiable
machines owned and controlled by corporations allied with your party
should make the results illegitimate even if plausible. If McCain is
declared the "winner," it will not be plausible, but at this point he
has so disgraced himself and our electoral system that he is no longer a
legitimate candidate for president regardless of what the polls
(themselves fallible, but all we've got) say just before election day.
Too many people have already been denied the opportunity to even push
the buttons and have their votes miscounted. Too much incendiary slander
has been let loose. Too much visible vote flipping has already been
documented.

If Obama officially wins, McCain is likely to challenge it, charging the
Obama campaign with some of the very crimes engaged in by McCain
himself. Our reaction should be exactly the same in the event of a
McCain challenge as in the event of a McCain "victory." We should not
sit back for even a split second and wonder how it will work out. We
should not try to organize a plan on the spur of the moment to travel to
key battleground states. We should be prepared already to immediately
travel to Washington, D.C., head straight for the White House, occupy
Lafayette Square Park, the Ellipse, and surrounding streets, block
entrances, and shut the place down until Obama is recognized as the
president elect or we are guaranteed a credible election with universal
registration and hand-counted paper ballots.

We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We
must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation,
and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one
more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and
intimidation. If they choose to attack our nonviolent gathering of
citizens, let them do it right in front of George W. Bush's White House
with the world's media watching. We will not back down.

I'm not hoping it comes to this, of course. If it doesn't because the
official election results are credible and just, we should celebrate and
prepare to lobby our government for real change. But if resistance does
not develop because people are too scared and obedient to act, then
you'll still be glad you packed ahead of time, and you might want to
look into tickets to Canada.
__._,_.___
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:01 PM
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1. Yep. I'm fucking rioting.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:43 AM
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24. joining ya. take me a while to walk down from Alaska but I'll be there
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:03 PM
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2. Ummmmmmm wasn't this already posted?
:shrug:
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magbana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:15 PM
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9. Yes, my post is a duplicate -- sorry folks! n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:00 PM
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11. OK. I missed the first one...
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:04 PM
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3. I'm taking the week off...
We're jumping in the car and heading towards DC if McCain steals this. And I'm bringing my dog. We'll be camping out by the WH until Obama is sworn in. That's the plan, anyway.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:28 PM
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16. You might want to rethink taking your dog.
Things would probably get really ugly really fast. No sense in getting the dog hurt/killed.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:08 PM
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4. I will ready my pitchfork and torch...REALLY!!!!
:mad: :grr: :nuke: :banghead:
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:43 PM
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10. To Zee Lumberyard! nt
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:09 PM
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5. Look for hackers to go absolutely apeshit in the event of a theft
THAT, if you like, will have an impact.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:12 PM
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8. YEP. Crash the entire thingy....
:evilgrin:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:38 PM
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29. LOL! Woohoo!
:applause: :evilgrin:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:10 PM
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6. ...
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:11 PM
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7. And a general strike thrown in for good measure, uhh what
general.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:07 PM
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12. If he steals the election, it becomes our civic duty to TAKE IT BACK
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Mid_FL_voter Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:13 PM
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13. Count this senior citizen in
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:19 PM
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14. It's Guy Fawkes day the morning after the election.


Quite the coincidence.

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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:58 AM
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25.  V says ..
something like ... "you shouldn't be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of you."

from V for Vendetta movie
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:19 PM
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15. I guess I will reply to thi spost as well as the first one....
I'm ready to fight!
But I will be fighting here in Ohio first.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:35 PM
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17. We must peacefully protest, like the Ukrainians did. Take to the
streets and stay there if need be.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:44 PM
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30. Like the Ukranians AND MLK!!!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:38 PM
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18. You Code Pink people aren't helping by releasing this manifesto now....you know that, right?


If this thing gets serious play, then you just scared a bunch of independents away from Obama.


Don't be dumb shits.


Do you want us to win, or not?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:40 PM
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19. We can have a red, white, & blue version of the Orange Revolution,
in which Ukrainians refused to allow a stolen election to remain unchallenged.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 11:30 PM
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20. K&R -- Definitely something to think about. //nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 11:33 PM
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21. I will fucking be there! Somebody set up the out houses!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 02:14 AM
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26. I'll see ya there. (My good friend in Oakton has bathrooms.)
:hi: :patriot:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:30 PM
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27. Wayat TN!
:hug: Contact Nov 5th when the polls close!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 11:43 PM
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22. Are you ready for the crackdown?
Because they are.

Let's hope it does not come to that. If it does, go with God.

Hekate


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 11:45 PM
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23. Are you ready for the crack up?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:34 PM
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28. I am going to buy an Amtrak ticket to DC
what day are we meeting?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 08:18 PM
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31. Kicking for what's about to come up on Rachel Maddow show.
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