Just Saw "W" --- My LAST Oliver Stone Movie

[Yes We Did]

What a freaking joke. Seriously, if you saw the preview... don't even bother. Wait for the DVD. My buddy kept falling asleep.

They made it out as if George was just an unwitting accomplice. It wasn't funny. It only briefly mentioned 911 and completely ignored Katrina.

The acting was pitiful. They were caricatures; completely. And Condi... she was horrid. Rummy was a joke, and... well... as I said, it was more like a really bad parody.

I swear, Oliver Stone sold out; COMPLETELY!

It made them all see so innocent; dimwitted and innocent. UGH! I am so disappointed!

How can you do a movie about Dubya and leave so much out?! Just maddening!

Don't let any republicans tell you they walked out of this movie. It was... it was... it was damned near a Dubya love fest! You 'ALMOST' even felt bad for him in the beginning... Then of course you remember what Stone WASN'T showing and that just pissed you off.

Forget it. I should have known he was going to do something like this; especially after World Trade Center.

AGHHHHHH!:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[gmoney]

1. Yeah, the "evil of banality" was the term that came to my mind

Strange thing, about halfway thru it, I literally had to race to the bathroom and puke my breakfast up. Not sure if it was the movie, the breakfast, or some mysterious illness, but it did seem fitting.

[Yes We Did]

3. I really wanted to walk out.

But... at $12 a ticket...

So disappointing. I really just wanted to laugh at Dubya tonight. Laugh at what a horrible joke HE is.

Sad... Stone could have really done something here.

[iceman66]

2. That is the impression I got from the previews

Thank you for confirming my suspicions!

[Yes We Did]

5. Well, I thought they might do that with Dubya...

But not the rest of his advisors. Dick Cheney is the ONLY one he even attempted to paint with a dark brush, and really... He just let them all off the darned hook.

Talk about false advertisement. I want my money back!

[iceman66]

4. Wasn't Stone a classmate of 'W' at Yale?

I seem to recall hearing that somewhere.

[ShortnFiery]

6. Yes, as the late George Carlin would say, they're part of an ELITE CLUB ... Colonial Rule!

Guess what, they're the upper .1 % ... and the rest of us? We are f**ked ... we are NOT part of their CLUB. :grr:

They want more for themselves and less for everyone else.

They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.

It's a BIG CLUB and you and I are NOT in IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4g_8OwEpU

[Clovis Sangrail]

7. I agree... a waste of $10

I saw it tonight and was hoping for... I don't know.. something at least entertaining.

For anybody who hasn't seen it yet -
save your money
If you absolutely must see it ...rent it when it hits DVD

[rebel with a cause]

24. I have no desire to see it.

previews were enough and the interviews where Josh Brolin said he had learned to have empathy for bush told me that it was a sell out movie. Also the lack of protest from the bush WH told me that the movie was less than truthful. A white wash you might say.

[Window]

8. Michael Moore has spoiled us. Thanks for the warning.

[Genevieve]

9. It was very hard to stay awake through the movie and yes,

the acting was ridiculous.

[midnight armadillo]

10. Why go see a movie when we're still living the nightmare?

Maybe in 50 years I'll watch that one.

Probably not.

[ejbr]

12. you can call me a dittohead on that one. n/t

[GarbagemanLB]

11. I enjoyed it, frankly. It was slow at parts, but Brolin was amazing as W.

It also was interesting in the portrayal of the lead-up to Iraq.

And yes, Bush seemed 'out of the loop' at times, and that was on purpose. Do you really think Bush is the mastermind behind going to Iraq? It was Cheney, Wolfowitz, and all them..Bush just thought he was in control.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Guess opinions differ? He's sucking so bad on SNL (Brolin) now that I had to turn the channel.

That bloated a**hole director, Oliver Stone, had to have himself introduced during Brolin's introduction.

These spoiled jerks truly think that they are entertaining ... they are not. :grr: :thumbsdown:

[Quixote1818]

16. I am with you. I really liked it and think it hurts Bush badly! nt

[Left Is Write]

17. Well...speaking of SNL....

Will Ferrell played the "thinks-he's-in-control-but-is-really-just-clueless" Dubya persona perfectly. :)

[GalleryGod]

22. I enjoyed it immensely. Guess they'll drum me out of DU Movie Watchers.

AS they say...that's why the Stork Club had menus...everybody has different tastes.

[ChiciB1]

25. Hell-OOOO!! Again! n/t

[dflprincess]

27. I can't say I really enjoyed it, but I didn't dislike it either

We turned it into a DU gathering so there were several of us there muttering smart remarks to each other which made it fun. I thought the portrayals were interesting and it seemed to me that it did stress that Dubya is pretty clueless and not in an especially sympathetic way.

I thought Colin Powell came off the worse because the way he sold out was made clearer in this movie than it has been in the media.

[Yes We Did]

29. The movie let them off the hook.

I just don't think it was NEARLY critical enough.

[PCIntern]

13. I agree...

it roundly sucked.

[Borgnine]

15. It was anything but a love fest.

They didn't mention Katrina because the narrative of the film focused on the buildup and immediate aftermath of the Iraq war and ended in 2004. Secondly, it sought to get inside the psyche of the man and reveal the Oedipal complex that so often drives his moronic decisions. That was the heart of the movie, and I felt it accomplished that beautifully.

[Sodan]

19. Sequel - happy end = impeachment.

[Yes We Did]

28. We can only dream... n/t

[GalleryGod]

23. I agree.

That would be my "take" on it,exactly.

[ThatsMyBarack]

18. I've never seen an Oliver Stone movie.

Not one.

[ShortnFiery]

21. IMO, don't start now ... or wait to rent it.

:thumbsdown:

[Overseas]

20. thought provoking to look at the spoiled frat boy's life almost from his perspective.

It was quite instructive to look at his destructive history of failures in a dark yet somewhat neutral manner. A few characters are presented too positively, and there wasn't enough Rove to suit me, but I'll be going to see Boogey Man: The Lee Attwater Story very soon.

Looking at W. in the "Truth is stranger than fiction" way is much scarier than doing a kooky parody. The film did a great job in asking us to imagine the spoiled frat boy, black sheep in the aristocratic Bush family, brashly pushing his way through life. Being bailed out by Dad time after time.

Just to understand that the USA was taken over by the gang shown in the movie, with an enigmatic Cheney knowing just how to play W. to whip up the team for the fantasy of U.S. domination of Middle Eastern oil fields.

That was instructive. Showing the way W. has been dedicated to spouting the right wing platitudes and charming the religious right since he lost his Congressional race. And it showed his conversion through debauchery very well. And included his dedication to "a higher Father" than Poppy Bush and his expert foreign policy advisers.

In that way, Stone brought the story into the present, where a Christian fundamentalist, nominated by Republicans for VP, would be guided by her own inner "voice of God" as opposed to the experts in our government departments who have dedicated their lives to our national security.

So I thought it was really stimulating -- JUST LOOK AT THIS GUY AS THOUGH HE HAD ANY LEGITIMACY, and he still looks really bad. That's what I liked, too. Even with favorable treatment, he still is reckless and pathetic and a dismal failure. And sorry folks but yes we did have an abject failure as our 43rd president.

[David Zephyr]

26. I liked the film. I think it frames Bush's legacy and I just see it differently.

The film corrupts as good art does.

This film was no favor to GW Bush.

It lays out theatrically how the build up to the war in Iraq was done with lies and fear-mongering and it did it without preaching.

It's theater, not documentary.

[Zuiderelle]

30. Saw it last night. I thought it was a fine film. Brolin was amazing as Bush.

Though I was a little disappointed that the film didn't completely eviscerate Bush, in retrospect, it was much more accessible and informative because it didn't.

Definitely worth seeing. I recommend it.