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JBTO26 Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:02 PM
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18-10-2008 IBD/TIPP DAILY: OBAMA 47%(+1)-McCain 40%(-1)
Right-wing or not, this is the only poll out there that is showing an improvement in Obama's numbers.47-40 are pretty low numbers though, which means they still see many undecideds.
They apparently were the most accurate national poll in 2004.
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:04 PM
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1. This poll had Obama up 5 when all other polls had McCain up 5-10
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:05 PM
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2. Rasmussen showed an improvement as well. Gallup showed it among registered.
Arguably, you could say that R2K showed a day to day improvement of +6 to +7.
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:14 PM
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3. Actually it's McCain: 39.8 Obama 47.2
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:17 PM
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4. TIPP was actually pretty accurate, despite the IBD part
Good news.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:18 PM
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5. Every one of your posts is about how poorly Obama is doing. Did you miss today's Daily Gallup
Tracking poll? Obama 50%, McCain 42%, an improvement from yesterday. Improvement today in Rasmussen's poll, too. I'm sure you're happy about that, right?
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:19 PM
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6. Obama's doing fine in this poll - check link
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:26 PM
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7. I know. I'm just saying that that poster always has something
negative to add, like this is the ONLY poll that shows Obama's numbers improving or something similar.
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JBTO26 Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:32 PM
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8. WTF are you talking about?
Where did I say Obama is doing poorly !?,

There is a tightening in the polls compared to what we were seeing this last days , NOBODY can deny that. But that tightening as I've said always happen in the last weeks of October. It'd likely be dead even in the national polls going into the election, which doesn't mean Obama is doing or is going to do poorly. The electoral map projections tell the real story and based on them, Obama won't lose cos he has too many paths to victory.

THIS is how I see the race

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:39 PM
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9. I'm talking about your (short) history of posts. And in your OP you said this is the
only poll where he's improving. That's false.
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JBTO26 Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:45 PM
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10. OBAMA'S NUMBERS IS THE KEY WORD
Gallup had him at 50 yesterday,just like Rasmussen and Kos . McCain lost in those polls, Obama didn't gain.

TIPP is indeed the only poll that shows his numbers (from 46 to 47) going up.


read and understand before you comment!!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:48 PM
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12. If the spread widens, Obama has improved his position
If two golfers are a -5 going into the 18th hole, and one golfer pars the hole, while the other double bogeys it, has the first golfer's position "improved." Not in the asinine troll world of JBTO26.

:rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:50 PM
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13. You're right about Obama's numbers not rising...
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 03:53 PM by jenmito
but McCain's numbers FALLING is ALSO significant since it shows his attacks aren't working. Still, I sit corrected re: YOUR wording. :)
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:46 PM
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11. then there's the "cell phone" problem with polls
many don't call cell phones and the ones that do might still be underestimating Obama's strength by 2-3%. Obama's doing fine in the polls but we can't get complacent either and they are concerned that we will do just that. I hope not, don't think so but we can't take anything for granted. See article for details about cell phones and polls.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/no_20081014_1266.php
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