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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:14 PM
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Challenges Could Disenfranchise Millions of Voters- From electoral-vote.com
The Help America Vote Act, passed after the 2000 debacle in Florida, mandates that states have a statewide data base of eligible voters to help people vote and to prevent fraud. However, these data bases are full of minor errors and hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of voters may be disenfranchised as a result. To make this clear, consider the five newly registered voters listed below on the left. The data for the same people (matched by social security number) appears in the drivers license data base below on the right.

New Voters Drivers License Data Base
Name Address SS # Name Address SS #

John A. Smith 24 Maple Ave 123-45-6789 John A Smith 24 Maple Ave 123-45-6789
Mary Jones 50a Main St 314-15-9265 Mary Jones 50A Main St 314-15-9265
William Wong 123 North Road 271-82-8182 Bill Wong 123 North Road 271-82-8182
Nancy Wilson 62 1st Avenue 299-79-2458 Nancy Wilson 62 First Avenue 299-79-2458
Peter Adams 120 Davis Ave 602-21-4179 Peter Adams 120 Davis Avenue 602-21-4179



Unless very carefully programmed, the software might reject all these new voters on the grounds of suspected fraud because the data don't agree. Could the software be made smart enough to do "fuzzy matching?" Of course, but only if the people writing it were instructed to do so. In addition, in many states criminals have recently been purged from the rolls--along with everybody else with the same name as any criminal. But there is much dispute as to which crimes disqualify one, what about people who have served their time, and people who have been pardoned? Even if the laws are clear, which they generally aren't, the data bases are so riddled with errors and the clerical personnel so ill-trained, that the whole issue of voter registration could be a time bomb that explodes on election day.
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This is pathetic and ridiculous. How can we let this happen???? This is the ONLY way these criminal fuckers can hold their stronghold, by blatant cheating. Every state should allow same day registration. Wisconsin allows us to register by providing a bill with our name and address on it. Why does voting have to be this difficult? Thanks, Republicans, you will feel our scorn. BET ON IT.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:16 PM
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1. If anyone is disenfranchised

THEY MUST fight it. I don't pretend to know every detail of other people's situations and I have NEVER EVER had a problem voting, but if I did I would not simply go, 'oh shucks...can't vote, ok see you again in 4 years'.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:34 PM
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2. Most people wont bother to fight it since it requires too much effort for "1 vote" (they would say)
which is a shame because it is the accum of those "1 votes" that realyl add up and make the difference.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:36 PM
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3. And if the challenges take more than a day or so McSame will be swept
into the WH by Big Media, like Smirk was in 2000.

Delay's storm troopers in 2000 should have been met with baseball bats and sent to the hospital. Ever since no one fought back, it's been getting worse every election cycle.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:38 PM
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4. Logically, in cases described in the OP there is ALWAYS going to be software that...
is not going to cover all those hypothetical siutations....there are too many variations...of course the software should be programmed to catch the obvious ones like "Ave" is "Avenue" (or the exclusion of it) but my guess is when the software flags people as fraudulent then it would be smart, and obviously needs to be done, that a human being comes in and goes over the ones that were flagged so as to compare them one at a time...it is then that tihngs like "1st" and "First" (or spelling mistakes) are caught since they are clearly one and the same and not fraudulent. If this is not how it is done right now, especially after 2 presidential debaucals the U.S. has gone through then it is clear that voter supression is a enjoyable passtime by the country that claims to be the land of the free.
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