MSNBC: Obama just had a St. Louis rally with 100,000 people!

[godai]

His largest so far.

[TomClash]

1. Where in St. Louis? nt

[babylonsister]

2. Around Gateway Arch per someone in here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7506570

[TomClash]

6. F---ing great! nt

[DCBob]

36. That's along riverfront near the arch.

Nice long wide open area. They have had music festivals there and they should know how to estimate crowd size.

[BeyondGeography]

3. The anti-American part

[TomClash]

5. Just the answer I'd expect from

BeyondGeography! :bounce:

[babylonsister]

19. Oh, snap! Well done! nt

[Coexist]

4. holy cow.

[eshfemme]

7. Was there a free concert before Obama spoke?

Because we all know that's the ONLY reason Obama could ever get that many people to come see him speak. It has got to be the free food or music or whatever and not the real inspiration and happiness that Obama's speeches give to people.

:sarcasm: for those who can't detect my contempt and scorn for the retarded wingnuts who make excuses for why Obama's crowds are so obscenely large and then have orgasms over Palin's crowds even though they're just a fraction of Obama's (and are also rounded up A LOT).

[Native]

21. yeah & ACORN paid people to show up for it!

[maui9002]

22. No concert; they're all fake people brought there by ACORN

I think I saw Mickey Mouse way in the back. :-)

[PolNewf]

8. CNN has a good picture

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/18/scenes-from-the-trail-100000-in-st-louis-for-obama/

[godai]

13. Great photo! I copied it here.

[deadparrot]

25. I've never been so proud to be a St. Louisan.

:woohoo:

It's also particularly powerful to see the Old Courthouse (site of the infamous Dred Scott decision) in the background.

[demokatgurrl]

14. Holy fucking shit!!!!! How is he losing there??? n/t

[jenmito]

27. He's not:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[Ino]

33. St. Louis, Kansas City & Columbia are solidly Dem

It's the rest of the state that's the problem.

[Chrisnreno]

15. Wow. What an amazing and inspiring photo. nt.

[electionwatcher]

28. Just seen the photo!

Wow, what a beautiful sight!:wow:

[renate]

30. welcome to DU!

:hi:

[aaronbees]

9. Here's a wire photo

Holy cat! How cool is that?!


Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, waves
as he arrives at a rally in St. Louis, Mo., Saturday, Oct. 18, 2008.
(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

[shireen]

12. wow!

that's amazing!

[No Passaran]

10. Is this it?

[shireen]

16. LOL! now that's what I call a group photo! BEAUTIFUL. nt

[kwolf68]

18. Bunch of American haters...

promoting democracy and trying to excersing some right to assemble...and damnit, these people are probably going to VOTE too...pathetic traitors./sarc

[nc4bo]

32. My eyes just rolled around - DIZZ-Y-ING photo - just OMGWow! GOBAMA!nt

[Top Cat]

11. I hope l the remainder of the rallies

[FVZA_Colonel]

17. I wonder what band it will be claimed was the "real draw" for people this time?

[babylonsister]

20. Nah, it's the free hot dogs. nt

[SoxFan]

24. Spinal Tap, with The Ruttles opening

[asdjrocky]

23. Funny, I saw nothing of it live on any of the channels.

But it was all McTroll, all morning long. They even informed me McTroll was "fired up" and they'd be going to another McTroll rally at 3 eastern time.

I am so sick of this shit.

[ChiciB1]

29. Hi AGAIN!!! I Was Only Listening, But Heard Them Saying The POLICE

estimated the crowd to be around 100,000! REALLY, REALLY BIG!!

[asdjrocky]

31. Hey you!

I've been doing some chores this morning, and I never had a chance to see if anyone other than the span covered it live. It just amazes me that they go live to McTroll for a couple of thousand people, but not to Obama with 100 thousand.

[ChiciB1]

39. Well, It's Being Reported Now!! They Did Show It Earlier... I Just Got Back

home and down here we're hitting back HARD!! Tomorrow we are having an Obama-Biden Rally called "Bridges of Unity" to show that "bridges" unite two sides! Rumors have it that it's going to have some really BIG News Coverage! So many people have signed up for this thing that they had to rent a shuttle to bring people to the bridge we'll walk across! A Bridge Of Unity... NOT a Bridge To Nowhere!!

This HAS NEVER happened in Sarasota, Florida... home of Katherine "Cruella" Harris, ranked as 2nd in RED counties in Florida!! There won't be anyway to get pictures while marching, but maybe it might hit BIG TIME MSNBC!! Just a wish, but we know we ARE going to have some good media coverage! I'm soooooooo excited! I've lived here for 24 years and there HAS NEVER been an event like this! It originated as "Women For Obama" but now it's expanded and men are coming along!

I may just be dreaming, but I BELIEVE this County is GOING BLUE!!

[progressoid]

26. They're all probably unemployed and looking for a hand out

Lazy, free loading libruls.

[EFerrari]

34. It looked like more than that. Huge, anyway. n/t

[DCBob]

35. OMG!! That's incredible!!

I used to live near St Louis and I still have relatives there and I know my favorite cousin is in that crowd -- she is a great Obama volunteer in IL and MO. MO is going blue!

[tokenlib]

37. If anyone got pictures from up in the arch it might be interesting...

but WOW--I love the big speeches and rallies!!!

[Peace Patriot]

38. If the official stat is 100,000, then the REAL stat is....?

Judging from past under-counting at leftist events, I'd say 150,000 to 200,000. That's how much officials usually undercount anything that even remotely smells of Democrats being elected or popular support for leftist causes. Could be they didn't undercount this time. We need input from the rally organizers and independent counters. But they ALWAYS DO, so, unless the local police are unusually objective, figure at least a third more.

100,000 has to be the record for a political event. And considering the location--Missoura!--it is mind-boggling. But considering the probable undercount, it could be twice that, or a third more. Which leaves me agog...

:patriot: :bounce: :patriot: :wow: :patriot: :bounce: :patriot:

THINK of the organization that takes! And THINK of how many OTHER voters each of those rally attenders represents! If one letter to a congress member implies a hundred other people with the same view, as they say, think of the trouble it takes to go to a huge rally like that--it's an all-day commitment, at least--and what that means as to GOTV commitment--volunteering, and pushing friends and neighbors and relatives and co-workers to the polls--and what that means as to the tenor of the community. Finally, it tells us what the Obama campaign is thinking about this formerly reddest of Bushwhack states. They wouldn't spend the resources needed for an event like this, this late in the campaign, if they weren't fairly sure of a big turnout, ahead of time, and that they could win the state.

We all know that we need at least a 10% edge, to compensate for Bushwhack corporate controlled 'TRADE SECRET' voting machine programming, and all the other criminal shite the Pukes are up to. I'd put it higher--we need to get 10% to 15% more votes than we need to win, to win. Even a 15% margin could be shaved off in small percentages spread out across the country, with a focus on "close" states for the Electoral College count. On the election reforms up for a vote in Ohio, in 2005, they flipped a 60/40 win into a 40/60 loss, without raising Tom Brokaw's eyebrow. Bob Koehler reported on it. Nobody else did. It was a flagrant steal, and possibly a test run of the programming for big, blatant flips, nationwide. So was FL-13 in '06. Really, any margin under 20% is easily stealable, if the stakes are high enough, and the Corpo/Fascist media is on board for the coverup. I think the evidence is that Kerry won by about a 5% margin, and that was very easily covered up and black-holed by both the Corpo/Fascist media and our Democratic Party leaders.

A rally like this--way, WAY bigger than most political rallies--in a "red" state is one indicator that our margin might be big enough. Another indicator is voter registration, which I understand has far exceeded 2004, which was already incredibly big (grass roots Dems blew the Pukes away nearly 60/40 in new registrations in '04.) This is, of course, why the Bushwhacks and their DOJ and their FBI are trying to punch ACORN out of the game, and other groups who are registering poor and minority voters. But I noticed yesterday that the Obama camp is hitting back, hard. That is GREAT NEWS! That's what it's going to take--defending peoples' right to vote, and getting many more votes than are needed to win. I wouldn't trust the polls much. They, too, undercount in many ways. If Obama is ahead by 5%, figure 10% at least. Of that 10%, 5% goes to Diebold & brethren, and we might squeak through. So we need 15% to 20% for what will be propagandized as a "close win" (no big mandate for Obama to do anything). God, this is such unamerican bullshit! But anyway, I think Obama's going to win, because he has much more support than the polls are showing, and because I don't think all of the Corpo/Fascist 'news' monopolies and other global corporate predator players are on board for McCain as they were for Bush-Cheney in 2004. As Dan Rather reveals in his lawsuit against CBS, CBS execs said that Bush winning is "in our interest," and they thus failed to back Rather on his true story about Bush's AWOL. Bush-Cheney have fucked up so badly, in so many ways, that they have become "bad for business"--or at least for some Corpos. Also, they want to keep that 'TRADE SECRET' code in the voting machines for future uses. Reversing a big Obama win would jeopardize their election theft capability. The people might get real uppity and 'Boston Harbor'-ish about those machines.

The dangers are that, a) The Corpo/Fascists so don't give a fuck what we think, they'll steal it anyway; or b) Obama wins so we forget about election reform. Then, after they've ruined his administration with God knows whatever bullshit they may have planned (more financial 9/11's?), they install whoever they want, in 2012, even someone worse than Bush.

I think Obama's going to win, and it won't be close, but will be portrayed as close. Then we've got to get to work to restore transparent vote counting. Half the voting systems in the country have no paper trail at all; the other half do only a 1% handcount. That is totally, totally, TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!