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JBear Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:22 PM
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Did Chuck Todd just expose election fraud?
He just mentioned on CNN that Charlie Crist has a "machine" in Florida. He then said that Jeb Bush still has a "machine" in Florida. He said that they can "over perform the polls" just like the did in 2004. This sounds like a fraud recipe to me!

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:23 PM
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1. Seeing as how Crist has downplayed supposed Acord fraud, I'm gonna go with "no." NT
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:23 PM
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2. Apart from that, I don't see how McCain wins all those states.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:24 PM
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3. I didn't see it but he's probably talking about a political "machine".
In other words, they control who counts the votes and they are organized. Every party in power controls the counting. Depends on how organized they are whether they can "deliver" the vote.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:25 PM
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4. Yes that's what he meant n/t
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JBear Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:26 PM
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5. But if who counts the votes...
determines whether or not you over perform the polls, isn't that fraud? There should be no difference who counts the votes.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 06:31 PM
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9. That is corrupt as hell when only one party runs the election.
And corrupt as hell when Florida law has the following:


The county canvassing board shall be composed
of the supervisor of elections; a county court judge, who shall act as chair; and the chair of the board of county commissioners. In the event any member of the county canvassing board is unable to serve, is a candidate who has opposition in the election being canvassed,
or is an active participant in the campaign or candidacy of any candidate who has opposition in the election being canvassed, such member shall be replaced as follows:


The 3 are all elected and could potentially be of the same political party in a county. Totally ef up!!

Screw having the county court judge and chair of the board of county commissioners on the election board. Instead, the supervisor of elections should be the only elected official on the board. The other two should be an appointment by the Democratic Party and Republican Party.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:26 PM
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6. Yes....thousands of Dem votes will be thrown out...
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:27 PM
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7. Machine=legal operatives to GOTV.
Not that they don't have the illegal type, too, and I think they do.

If we lose it will be through illegal acts. No doubt about that and I hope everything that can be done is being done.

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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 05:39 PM
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8. Scary quote...
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
Joseph Stalin (1879 - 1953)
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