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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:19 PM
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POWELL BUZZ Straight From OBAMA'S CAMP
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:19 PM by Beetwasher
I don't think they would say something like this if they weren't expecting a Powell endorsement:

"Today Obama spokesperson Linda Douglas said she has no news on the Powell front, but the campaign would obviously love an endorsement. "We would welcome the support of somebody with such a distinguished and honorable career as General Powell," she told me this morning, as Obama's plane flew to Virginia for a rally. Obama has previously cited Powell as a potential member of his administration, and the two have been in touch before. "I know they talk from time to time about foreign policy matters," Douglas said, though she did not know the last time they spoke."

Just a hint, but I don't think they would talk him up like that and say they would "love" and "welcome his endorsement" if they didn't know for sure it was coming.

From Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/17/11579/857/90/633511

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:20 PM
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1. That's what I was thinking when I first read it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:20 PM
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2. One of the reasons
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:21 PM by H2O Man
that McCain seemed so sad at times at the Alfred Smith Memorial Dinner last night is because his campaign had been informed earlier in the day that Powell is preparing to endorse Obama this weekend.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:22 PM
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4. Thank you
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:25 PM by DesertedRose
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:23 PM
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6. Yup, A Powell Endorsement For Obama Would Be A Major Blow
A final nail. Though If I know Obama, there will still be more nails to follow anyway.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:32 PM
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16. do you think...
Powell's people "telegraphed" :rofl: that information as a courteous "head's-up"?
Or, keeping in mind of McStupid's' technology skills, perhaps they sent their swiftest carrier pigeon or smoke signals?
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:16 PM
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48. They tried to send it by way of pigeons but as betty white told us Palin keeps shooting them down
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:38 PM
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25. Does anyone know if Alma Powell is a Democrat?
I thought I heard that at one time. :shrug:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:21 PM
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3. I think he will endorse Obama on Sunday...
And I KNOW, if he does, it will be a terrific boost to Obama's election efforts!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:23 PM
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5. yeah, the lying scumbag vote
will be in the bag
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:25 PM
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10. I'll take anyone's vote!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:26 PM
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11. Blah Blah Blah
It would be a significant and effective endorsement, regardless of what WE think of him.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:32 PM
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18. The Purity Police...
...a tough crowd to please.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:42 PM
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27. yeah we don't like republican warmonging ASSHOLES, sue us.
fuck you and your "purity" comment.

that being said, I don't give a fuck who the toadie, "yes" man Powell endorses one way or the other but don't hiss at DUers who can't stand his enabling, pathetic ass. He has MUCH BLOOD on his hands.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:51 PM
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29. It's One Thing To Have An Opinion, And Another To Recognize The Political Advantage
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:52 PM by Beetwasher
of the endorsement. No one here is endorsing Powell or excusing his actions. But I for one, would welcome his endorsement of Obama and I see it for the political coup and positive thing it would certainly be.

Should Obama reject his endorsement because YOU don't like him? :eyes:
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:09 PM
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41. No. He should reject his endorsement because Powell unapologetically participated
in widespread slaughter, torture, and human rights violations--all for the sake of HIS ideological "purity" and his career. Ask the dead Iraqi innocents if Colin Powell should be welcomed into the Obama fold.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:11 PM
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44. Frankly, That's Just Stupid
Your free to not vote for Obama because of this, but MOST people don't share your (and mine honestly) opinion of Powell. I don't like Powell, but I'll take his endorsement and the political positives that come w/ it.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:38 PM
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50. Why would you even mention not voting for Obama?
I already DID vote for Obama--joyfully. My state's early voting started two days ago. I was one of the first to cast my vote, and I have never cast one more gladly than that one. Your comment was not at all appropriate.

You have no idea what most people think about Powell--you're just making an assumption. In my experience, Repukes dislike him because he bailed on their precious Bush, Dems dislike him because of his Iraq War lies and coverups, and everyone else is too ill-informed to really care one way or another. But even if it *were* true, it's still bull. The truth is that we don't NEED Powell's endorsement to win. We're winning just fine all by ourselves. What would Obama gain from a Powell endorsement that he doesn't already have by his OWN hard work and character?

This argument is moot, anyway--there is no way in hell that Powell is going to endorse Barack Obama. He doesn't have the kind of integrity OR the kind of political backbone that such a turnaround would require. The closest he might come to "endorsing" Obama would be to avoid the question altogether and refuse to endorse *anyone*. Frankly, I think that's pretty much the best we can expect of him.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:43 PM
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52. Umm, Sure I Know What MOST People Think Of Powell
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 03:47 PM by Beetwasher
There are things called polls that can give you a pretty good idea, and Powell is VERY popular.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/powell_far_more_likely_than_obama_to_beat_mccain

Sure, Obama doesn't necessarily NEED his endorsement to win, but it doesn't HURT either and could in fact HELP quite a bit.

Frankly, you seem incredibly politically naive to think otherwise or that because YOU don't like him, Obama should reject his endorsement. That's preposterous and shortsighted.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:30 PM
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14. Lighten up.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:31 PM by jefferson_dem
:)

Powell is one of the most respected public figures in America today, regardless of whatever concerns some DUers have with him. His endorsement would/will drive the news cycle for a couple days at a perfect time. I welcome it.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:28 PM
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37. Fie on the Powell endorsement! Fie, I say!
We don't need his endorsement! We don't need Chris Buckley's endorsement, either, or any other turncoat Repuke! In fact, we don't need any voters who voted for Bush! Why should our candidate be tainted by their votes?

For that matter, do we really want all the Hillary supporters on our side?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. long term democratic supporters are really not the same thing as Powell
and to conflate the two is just stupid.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #37
47. I guess you needed one of those "sarcasm" thingies.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:05 PM
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38. agreed. its a testament to what the wealthy and powerful in this coutry can do
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 03:05 PM by lionesspriyanka
that they can screw up so BAD, but we will still worship them.

how pathetic
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:13 PM
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45. Hey, the lying scumbag vote is a pretty large bloc!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:23 PM
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7. Powell is a traitor and hence his endorsement is a non-issue
Powell was instrumental in getting us into a fake war using fake intelligence. He stood in front of the entire world and lied about our intelligence info. Powell should be in jail.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:24 PM
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9. Whatever
To us, yes. To many others, it will be significant.
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:31 PM
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15. Because it's a non issue to you
does not mean it's a non issue for everyone. However based off some of the reactions on DU it seems as if this endorsement will be criticized by both sides (sigh).
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:33 PM
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20. That's why, on balance, his endorsement is a non-event
It won't gain us much. Are there any independents out there (still) who are going to swing our way because Powell, a black man, says he endorses Obama? I doubt there's more than ten in the entire country.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:34 PM
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22. You're Wrong
It would drive the news cycle in a positive way for Obama for at least a few days. That's good.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:01 PM
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30. OK, granted. Two days of positive news
So far, by my count, we've had three weeks of positive news about Obama. It won't hurt to add to the pile, but I say it won't add much. Hey, perhaps it will come in handy, who knows?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:04 PM
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31. It Can't HURT
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 02:04 PM by Beetwasher
That's for damn sure!

As much as you despise Powell, I doubt O would LOSE your vote because of it.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:15 PM
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34. Naw Powell should be in jail, but his endorsement won't carry the weight that some people claim
He's a deadbeat. Spent his political capital and lost his integrity. And that's being nice to the traitor.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:22 PM
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36. You're Wrong, It Will Carry A LOT Of Weight
And will be stick in McCain's eye.

You don't seem to get, your opinion (and mine quite frankly, I don't like him either) of Powell is a VERY minority opinion.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:41 PM
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51. I would love to know what your source is for making that claim over and over.
Is there some recent poll of American opinions about Colin Powell that I am unaware of?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:46 PM
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53. Yes
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:06 PM
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32. Powell may actually have a conscience to clear.
:shrug:

He should be in jail, tho.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:16 PM
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35. Yeah, he might clear his conscience writing letters from jail
I suspect he might even have a larger readership than Mumia Jamal.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:11 PM
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43. strongly agreed. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:24 PM
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8. That would be a first step for Powell to redeem himself
After promoting war for the bu$h regime, I lost all respect for the man
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:27 PM
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12. Was it Obama who said he believed in redemption....
I can't remember. At any rate it would be a good step towards that end, for our side....and a lot of clear-thinking old-school GOPers will see it as a green light to screw up their courage, go ahead and vote for Obama.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:38 PM
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24. No doubt it would be a great thing for Obama
Powell is still not out my dog house.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:35 PM
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23. Thank you. I've been tempted to say the same thing all damn day.
Lets face it. If Powell were part of our party, a lot of people here wouldn't be so quick to slam the guy and would probably be a lot quicker to allow him a chance to be forgiven.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:19 PM
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49. Redemption my butt - he is the guy at the roulette wheel ...
who is trying to get chips on the board after the call.

Seriously, he hung back to make sure he sided with the winner.

This is a purely self interested move when he has nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Freakin book outfits in Ireland are already paying off on this election.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:30 PM
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13. Why would anyone want a Powell endorsement?
The man is a traitor, directly responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people. If there were any justice, he'd be doing a life sentence. He's worse than a thousand Bill Ayres.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:32 PM
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19. Blah Blah Blah
:eyes:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:32 PM
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17. He only has one vote, just like the rest of us
But every vote counts.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:33 PM
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21. I hope we get a full-apology for his actions and an endorsement
he can repent against his sins.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:42 PM
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26. He can take all those mobile weapons labs we seized
and put Obama billboards in the sides. It really must suck to wake up every morning and realize that you traded your entire reputation for a seat at the feet of Dick Cheney.
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notaboutus Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:49 PM
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28. A different prospective on Powell
Some post remind me of how the MSM treats Obama. Forget the fact that he was lied to forget the fact that he was given false, altered documents. Blame him for being a true military man. He was following the only code of honor he knew. The racism and hatred he endured to earn his rank deserves some respect. He didn't fail us the system failed him.
He was the typical scape goat. To be blunt Bush has a history of placing black men in positions of power to let them take the fall. Fannie Mae and HUD come to mind. He knew they were screwed when they got the jobs.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:07 PM
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33. PROOF! that Obama's camp is in the tank for McCain
:evilgrin:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:08 PM
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40. I'm really leary of stoking these flames this close to an election
I just can't stand being fooled again :(
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:11 PM
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42. This is meaningless, IMO
The GOP spreads a rumor that Powell will endorse. The Obama campaign says that they have heard nothing of the kind but diplomatically say that they would welcome such an endorsement for obvious reasons. I don't see this as any type of hint from the Obama camp.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:15 PM
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46. I Doubt They Would Put Themselves Out Their Like This
Especially if they didn't know anything. They would be MUCH more circumspect about it and NOT make it seem like it would be a great endorsement.
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