"Joe" the plumber made $40,000 in 2006! Hot Damn the story has hit the press!

[Blue Diadem]

Article published Thursday, October 16, 2008
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP
'Joe the plumber' isn’t licensed
Local man focus of presidential debate

By LARRY VELLEQUETTE and TOM TROY
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

"Joe the Plumber" isn’t a plumber — at least not a licensed one, or a registered one.

A check of state and local licensing agencies in Ohio and Michigan shows no plumbing licenses under Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher’s name, or even misspellings of his name.

Mr. Wurzelbacher told reporters Thursday morning that he worked for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., a small local firm whose business addresses flow back to several residential homes, including one on Talmadge Road in Ottawa Hills.

According to Lucas County Building Inspection records, A. W. Newell Corp. does maintain a state plumbing license, and one with the City of Toledo, but would not be allowed to work in Lucas County outside of Toledo without a county license.

Much more at link:

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418

[WallStreetNobody]

1. K&R - THIS IS GOLD

AWESOME FIND! LOL! OH MAN.....what I love is it was the plumber's union that got pissed and investigated this! LOL! I'm sure wingnut Joe hated the idea of unions anyway, now they just buried him.

$40,000 per year. Now we know where Joe stands, he wants to pay more taxes under McCain so guys like me can keep paying a lot less. Thanks Joe. You wingnuts keep this country interesting.

[Blue Diadem]

3. I'm so proud of The Blade for reporting this. Lets hope the TV media will pick it up. n/t

[FreeState]

2. In the Toledo paper - thats just great:) n/t

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[nc4bo]

4. Joe is full of Bullisht. Same as Mccain, same as Palin, same as the GOP.

Glad to hear reporters are doing some digging.

Maybe I should lend them my anti-poop boots but Naw........let them do some down and dirty journalism. :rofl:

[PearliePoo2]

36. Yes and McFuckingStupid...

is out on the stump today crowing about "Joe". Crowing.
He is bouncing up and down on his stubby toes and has that stupid, "Did I do Good?" fucking grin on his face. Like he just made a big poo poop.
Oh, I'm loving how his man-crush "Joe" is being destroyed right now.
Who knows...maybe before this is all over, skinhead Joe will be lead off in cuffs!

[Desertrose]

5. Someone send this to Keith Olberman

I would love to see KO & Rachel Maddox jump on this!!

[TornadoTN]

6. BOOM. Get ready for the shows tonight!!!

I can't wait to hear the news this evening! No doubt there are more delicious "goodies" ready to be uncovered!

The rise and fall of Joe the Plumber!

[SuperTrouper]

10. LOL!!

[Kaylee]

7. As Scooby-Doo would say...."Wroh-roh". nt.

[gauguin57]

8. Keating, Keating, Keating, Keating, Keating!

Just wanna make sure all the dots are connected.

[Overseas]

31. we're pretty sure he's an RNC plant, but the Keating connection

is still just alleged by one person who has perpetrated hoaxes before apparently.
We need more confirmation before we spread that far & wide.

[nichomachus]

9. Thank heavens for the Internets -- seriously

Twenty years ago, they would have gotten away with this stunt. A few people would have found out, but it would have been buried by the MSM and 99 percent of the people in the country would have believed "Joe."

Now, he's been busted by the bloggers, and the bloggers have forced the MSM to do its job.

[KathieG]

11. Joe the liar would do much better under an Obama presidency...

but he is too willfully ignorant to see it. Shame.

[VenusRising]

12. Gods, I love the Toledo Blade!

They broke the Noe coin scandal, too.

[FightingIrish]

13. So apparently John McCain pals around with a wife beating

former resident of Alaska and Arizona who is related to one one of the Keating criminals actually sent to jail and who practices plumbing without a license. I think in the debate McCain called him his "good buddy"

[Raschel]

57. He's a wife beater? Could you give me some detail? Thanks. n/t

[FightingIrish]

63. This was from a post earlier today

http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedockets/DocketDR.aspx?STYPE=1&PAR=DR19970476&STARTDATE=01/01/1900&ENDDATE=01/01/2100&PARTY=D,1

The court docket makes reference to costs being applied to "SHELTER" and "BATTERED WOMEN". It probably is worth some further digging.

[SoonerPride]

14. On GMA he said he was doing plumbing just yesterday, was he breaking the law?

Unlicensed and doing plumbing anyway?

[nichomachus]

17. Apparently, he's doing scut work under the license of an on-site plumber

but I'm sure the union will be looking into his scab status.

[asdjrocky]

15. Total fake.

He wants to privatize social security too. Typical, one of those loud mouths that pretends to be more, and have more.

[nichomachus]

18. Worse than a fake, he's a scab

doing plumbing work and not a union member

[asdjrocky]

20. Very good point.

[Barack_America]

24. Excellent point. nt

[WeDidIt]

30. Yup, the Union people are going to DESPISE Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher

Big time major scab.

[nichomachus]

16. So, he would get a $500 tax cut from Obama

Asshole.

[Barack_America]

19. Lol. And that's the year that he didn't pay his state income tax either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7477732

[beac]

21. Say it ain't so, Joe!

This just gets better and better!

[crankychatter]

29. "best of" no text

[npincus]

22. Ha ha...maybe he meant to say he's a gynecologist?

:rofl:

[political_Dem]

23. Roland Martin already mentioned the Toledo Blade research on CNN today.

I would believe that if anyone who be receptive to this information(besides KO and Rachel Maddow), he would be since he brought it up in a response to Leslie Sanchez, the republican shill.

[ProSense]

25. The fraudulent GOP strikes again. n/t

[DevonRex]

26. So he WAS stationed in Alaska. And there's a wurzelwhatever in Wasilla.

[Blue Diadem]

72. I didn't catch that until I saw your post.

Do you remember if the name in Wasilla was a male or female? Just curious if it's a former wife.

[DevonRex]

82. It's Doug, I believe. A guy for sure. nt

[crankychatter]

27. bet he hits 300k in the next 30 days though

a small stipend for public humiliation

[PA Democrat]

28. I'm sure that local banks are lining up to loan this guy money

to buy that plumbing business. :sarcasm:

[crankychatter]

32. Joe, the Bullshitter - recaption time - nt

[WallStreetNobody]

33. I may be overreacting, but to me this is the nail in his coffin

I mean come on, he isn't even a plumber and in reality he makes $40,000 per year. He would benefit hugely from Obama's tax plan yet he rails against it. In fact he's right in the sweet spot of Obama's tax plan where he gets just about the maximum cut compared to McCain's plan. So let me get this straight, Joe the Plumber who has been railing against taxes for the rich is happy to pay much more in taxes under McCain than he would have to under Obama on his working class salary? Smart.

[BluegrassDem]

34. How the fuck is he gonna afford a $250K business off of $40K a year salary?

Which bank would lend that amount of money to him? And no telling how much debts and child support he owes. He's got a lot of nerve. He ain't buying shit.

[WallStreetNobody]

37. He isn't, that is just another layer of bullshit in his life story

[mzmolly]

50. Someday..............perhaps, he'll own that business he aspires to .......

Someday.................

[Cosmocat]

51. The day I buy out McDonalds' Corporation ...

with our $80,000 combined annual income.

I saw this loon for what he was the moment this story got the MSM whores legs' tingling - he will NEVER see $250,000 a year, and he IS the prototype moron republican who buys into the crape and believes in his inner core the nonsense they feed him.

[sandnsea]

53. An SBA loan

If he had a license and had paid his taxes, etc. Oh wait, he doesn't believe in "big government". So yeah, you're right. He's not going to get a loan. Oh well.

[RoadRage]

35. Lived in Alaska AND Arizona?

Wow.. what a coincidence (and i'm not being sarcastic.. how was this guy suppose to know Obama was going to pick his block & his house to show up to??)

Also.. the guy made $40,000 last year.. and doen't even have a license.

Here's the TRUE story. Joe the plumber is a regular guy who has never really thought about taking over any plumbing business. He's a republican, and he thought this would be a good opportunity to go head to head with Obama.. and he way over-inflated his salary, future plans, etc. He thought it would be a 10 minute deal... he had no idea this would end up on the news.. end up in the debates, and people would actually check to see that he isn't the guy he claimed to be.

Yeah.. he's an idiot republican..but I sorta feel bad for him.. he didn't ask to get mentioned 22 times last night. And ohh.. that's right- MCCAIN started it!

[progressivebydesign]

46. uh oh.. there is a relative of his in Wasilla, supposedly. What a fake!! n/t

[magdalena]

76. This is exactly how I see it.

I personally know many pugs like this guy. If Obama had showed up in our neighborhood they would've taken the same opportunity to try to stump him, citing an inflated and exaggerated personal situation. Don't think he's a plant, but I don't exactly feel sorry for him. He put himself out there to showboat and its just coming back to haunt him.

[TheKentuckian]

38. Joe is a Republican

which usually means if his lips are moving then he is lying.

This dude doesn't make any 250 or 275k and it is beyond doubtful that he will buy into this supposed company and all the sudden jump up there while he is paying in.

Joe is just another pie eyed redneck with a man crush on Raygun.

[Ozma]

39. This is GOLDEN!

I can't wait for this to be on CNN !!

This "plumber" cooked his own goose.

[kestrel91316]

40. I love the internet. Cue the Carly Simon song:

"We have no secrets......."

[TexasObserver]

43. "You walked in ... to the bathroom ... like you were licensed by the state ...."

"Your pants strategically dipped, below your crack,

I think I saw the moon."


THAT Carly Simon song?!

[progressivebydesign]

44. "you had one hand in my toilet, as you talked about that buffoon"

"I had a dream there were nuts in my party, nuts in my party.. and.... Fix my drain, you probably think the debate is about you... Fix my drain! you probably think the debate is about you.. don't you? don't you??


LOLZ... you're hilarious!

[TexasObserver]

78. If I'd had time, I'd have written a quality parody with that tune!

always one of my favorite tunes by Carly

[Blue Diadem]

45. OMG you made me snort coffee up my nose

Owwwwieeeee...

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

79. Ha! It was fun!

[kestrel91316]

52. Nope, sorry.

[Jackpine Radical]

73. Your butt, it was apricot.

Yeh, THAT Carly.

[TexasObserver]

80. he has a future with Fox News

he's not qualified, but he is accustomed to working knee deep in crap

[progressivebydesign]

67. ah.. THAT one.. "I have no secrets, I tell Couric EVERTHING.. "

"like that license in the past, and how it didn't last. "I'm one of McCain's characters, from A to Z.. I'm mostly a fantasy" "but I know McCain says his plan benefits me more... I bet he'd wish, I know he'd wish, and frankly I wish, I'd been vetted 24 hours before"

you mean like that???

[kestrel91316]

71. YEP

[TheKentuckian]

41. Joe is a Republican

which usually means if his lips are moving then he is lying.

This dude doesn't make any 250 or 275k and it is beyond doubtful that he will buy into this supposed company and all the sudden jump up there while he is paying in.

Joe is just another pie eyed redneck with a man crush on Raygun.

[TexasObserver]

42. "Joe The Plumber's Helper" has a nice ring to it.

[Ozma]

47. Someone could market a picture of him on a can of ...

toilet bowl cleaner!

[yellowcanine]

54. Or a toilet plunger - aka "plumber's helper"

[Ozma]

68. LOL Good one!

I think I'll have a few dozen rolls printed up to sell in stores for Christmas Presents...send Joe and John one for the "15 minutes of fame" (and the publicity!)

[Jackpine Radical]

74. A whole BRAND of plungers called "Joe"

The Plumber's Helper.

[workinclasszero]

48. That SOB has to be a rethug plant

BUSTED LIAR!!!:rofl:

Who put him up to it McBush????

[Jackpine Radical]

75. Like somebody said above, my bet is that he's

just a freelance idiot. No prior planning, just saw his chance to get in Obama's face, and did it.

Then the toilet overflowed n him.

[AlCzervik]

49. he's never even has any training either so he can't even be an apprentice.

[WallStreetNobody]

55. How do you send to KO or RM?

I can't find any email contacts for them. They probably know about this by now but just to make sure I wanted to send it to them. I wonder if Fox Noise would care about it or would they just like to continue with the false narrative?

[Honu one]

56. No license just announced on MSNBC

LOL

[Blue Diadem]

66. Yes! The truth is coming out.

I just heard someone on MSNBC say that he might have been good for the McCain campaign if he had been licensed and paid his taxes.

[Peacetrain]

58. Oh my GOD, I am just catching up with "joe" since I left for work

this morning.. "joe" has seemed to fall apart. :rofl:

[Blue Diadem]

60. Yep, he sure has.

Once that he is exposed nationwide, I wonder what negative reaction this non-licensed plumber will have on his employer's plumbing business.

[LSK]

59. but the dipshit doesnt want Social Security?? What the hell is he expecting to live on after 65

:wtf:

[halobeam]

62. there's a minister wurzelbacher around somewhere...

may be a relative? He can help him through after he's 65.

[Dawgs]

61. Has there been a better paper in America than the Toledo Blade?

They really have done a lot of great reporting these last 8 years.

[kwassa]

64. And the local plumber's union supports Obama!

from the article:

Mr. Wulzerbacher’s notoriety has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics, who claimed that Mr. Wulzerbacher didn’t undergo any apprenticeship training.

"When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it’s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We’re the real Joe the Plumber."

Mr. Joseph said Mr. Wulzerbacher could only legally work in the townships, but not in any municipality in Lucas County or elsewhere in the country.

"This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he’s never been to a training program, union or non-union, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said.

The association has endorsed Barack Obama, according to Mr. Joseph.

[WallStreetNobody]

65. I can't imagine it will be easy for him to get any plumbing jobs in his city any more...

...if he needs a license to do it and has been practicing without one the union isn't going to let him get away with it given they're pretty pissed. I'm sure his fame will make some people want to hire him, but now he's opened himself up to getting sued for working as a plumber without a license.

[gal]

69. He currently owes back taxes as well..

He might not owe as much if Obama gets in there...come on Joe...

McSame should really learn something on the vetting process

[Blue Diadem]

70. yes, it's in the article about the taxes.

This guy doesn't get that he'd be better off under Obama's plans. Somebody around here had a thread that he was on the court docket for unpaid hospital bills too.

[high density]

77. Standard right winger

They want the Repukes to slant the system towards the rich. This way, when they "make it" in their delusional world, the system will be all set up for them.

[stillcool]

81. yup..he had all the buzz words down..

'socialist'..like he knows what that means. Loves him those 'tax-cuts'. I think these people actually believe that one day they are going to make it big, and be one of the boys. Hell, maybe they think they are already there.