Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Virginia (or New Hampshire + Minnesota) - the ultimate insurance policy

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:13 AM
Original message
Virginia (or New Hampshire + Minnesota) - the ultimate insurance policy
Virgina, New Hampshire, and Minnesota are working out to be as vital as Ohio and Florida in a doomsday scenario.

Using the current numbers at Pollster.com (10:40am, October 16th), imagine the following horrific scenario: In addition to all of his "safe" states, John McCain wins EVERY "toss-up" state. This would put the electoral vote count at:

Obama 333
McCain 205

But in addition, McCain wins Ohio. Obama has a thin 4-point lead in Ohio, but it could change and Republicans appear to be having success at suppressing voter rights. This would put the result at:

Obama 313
McCain 225

Then - disaster! McCain wins Florida too. Florida, like Ohio, has a history of vote suppression, even if Obama is currently leading there with 6 points. The result, incredibly:

Obama 286
McCain 252

Obama still wins. And with 16 electoral votes to spare. So, what's left? Aside of Ohio - which in this scenario he already lost - Obama has a lead of less-than 6 points in Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Virginia. Obama could lose BOTH Minnesota and New Hampshire and still win:

Obama 272
McCain 266

Or, he could lose Virgina and still win if he retains New Hampshire and Minnesota:

Obama 273
McCain 265

But if disaster does indeed strike, and Obama loses all the toss-up states along with Florida and Ohio, then either Virginia or New Hampshire + Minnesota are our only hope.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:14 AM
Response to Original message
1. Remember, New Hampshire..

...is in the northwest!

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. That's why it's called a "doomsday" scenario.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NHDEMFORLIFE Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. We can see Russia!
It's nice for our little northwestern state to feel so important.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. Pollster just moved Ohio from "Leaning Obama" to "Toss Up" and he's lost half a point in Florida ...
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 02:44 PM by Ian_rd
I hope I'm not predicting the future here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 06:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC