The Acorn mention is driving me bonkers. Why won't anyone come out and say how stupid it is???

[jsmirman]

That was not only such an outrageous lie, it is an act of obscene stupidity.

After Obama wins, seriously, how long is my argument going to last with any right winger who tries to debate me on this?

Me: "Ok, point me to a single vote that ever actually got cast as a result of anything related to Acorn."

Him: urm, urghf, uh

Me: "Shut the fuck up."

Maybe a little detour into how when you send in a fake name on a registration form, it can't possibly end up in a registration followed by a little more STFU.

This is bullshit what they're doing to Acorn and it's just so DAMN STUPID.

ARGH!

:argh:

[truedelphi]

1. I have gotten to the point where i sometimes think it might be wise if we simply abolished the news!

Most days, it is only about things like Britney showing her junque in the trunk, whether or not Obama wore his lapel pin, whether Michelle Obama knows the power bump etc.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

2. I thought McCain exaggerated ACORN and it's effect on this election

WAY past the point of believability and, hopefully, his over exaggeration will finally defuse the entire issue. While I think that we can all share some legitimate concern about people not performing their jobs ethically and honestly (particularly when it involves our election process), it was stunning how dramatic McCain made the current concerns about ACORN seem.

I had pretty much the same response when he said what he said about ACORN

[jsmirman]

4. He did stretch it to the point of laughability... although he's stretching NOTHING

so the point of laughability should be reached rather fast...

It's honestly an internal corporate matter - not an election process job matter...

The only issue anyone should have with it are people who study non-profits at business schools and people who don't think anyone should be paid, period, to do voter registration...

[Johonny]

6. I agree

To him it could destroy democracy. Yet Obama in less than 60 seconds explained what a non-issue it was. Frankly if John McCain can't keep Mickey Mouse from voting, what can he do?

[gateley]

3. According to Rachel and Keith, it doesn't matter. Besides the teeny minority who

are paying attention to it, the vast majority don't have a clue and don't care.

[jsmirman]

5. I really am with those on DU who believe this will be a post-election meme

and considering those fuckers STOLE the last two elections, how dare they act as though this would even the score at all, considering this impacted NOTHING, while their fraud changed EVERYTHING.

[gateley]

7. Yeah, well I gotta agree with you on that.

But I'm not that concerned -- we'll handle it. I think Obama will win with enough of a lead that this will become inconsequential.

The flap after the last two elections didn't change anything -- and those guys were actually guilty! So my gut feeling is it will all come to naught if they try to go that route.

How would they explain the commanding lead that Obama's had in the polls recently and poof! All of a sudden the country decides to vote for McCain? Wouldn't wash.

[csziggy]

8. Ask how teh Repubs feel about David Sproul's dirty tricks in 2004

His organization pretended to be non-partisan for the purpose of registering voters then according to more than one employee, shredded all the Democratic voter registrations they collected. This cost hundreds, if not thousands of Democratoc voters their votes in several state - Nevada and Oregon, among others.

I don't have the links at hand, but Google "Sproul voter registration" to find them.

Destroying voter registrations is much more egregious than turning in obviously fraudulent ones. Oh, by the way, I never found any report that Sproul or anyone in his organization was ever charged or even investigated. At the same time ACORN assisted prosecutors in investigating the workers who falsified voter registrations and some workers were charged with crimes.