Are republicans freaking out over John Glenn's "Hitler" comment?

[Cocoa]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0409040123sep04,1,5918659.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Former Sen. John Glenn of Ohio, campaigning with Kerry in the town about 25 miles east of Columbus, urged voters "to separate out fact from fiction." He accused Republicans of making false claims against Kerry and engaging in the kind of propaganda once employed by the Third Reich in Nazi Germany.

"That makes this a very, very tough fight because too often, too often in this country, if you hear something repeated, it's the old Hitler business," Glenn said. "If you hear something repeated, repeated, repeated, repeated, you start to believe it."

[liberal N proud]

1. The truth can be painful and these poeple don't know truth anymore!

Glenn was at the Akron rally, he still looks good for an old guy!

[DaveSZ]

2. Well he should know

He was a veteran of WWII right?

My grandfather who is a WWII vet says the same thing about Bush; reminds him of Hitler.

[Narraback]

4. Korea for sure, I am not sure about WW II.

nt

[amber dog democrat]

10. I think he was a Pacific Theater carrier pilot

during WWII. again :" God Bless John Glenn "

[Hand]

19. Yep, both WWII and Korea...

And he was a fighter pilot in serious combat both times. I remember a picture in LIFE magazine years ago showing him standing next to his F86 Sabrejet in Korea with a BIG shellhole under the wing. He was grinning, of course... there's a guy with the RIGHT STUFF!

:toast: :loveya: :yourock:

[enki23]

3. let 'em come. he's john fucking glenn

we *want* to get into THAT argument.

[Cocoa]

7. the only question...

how (not whether) will they smear him? Suggest his time in space caused brain damage? I nominate Charles Krauthammer to issue the diagnosis.

[Dimsdale]

12. Dr. Kraphammer?

Yes, eminently qualified....And Rushbutt will arrive at an identical diagnosis on his next spewfest.

[Nite Owl]

5. Certainly hope that they

are going to bring this up, that's how these statements make the news and get people thinking. God bless John Glenn!

[kentuck]

6. I keep fighting the idea to identify the Bush regime with Hitler but....

I cannot get rid of the thought that continues to peek out somewhere in the recesses of my subconscious...It refuses to die.

[DaveSZ]

8. Well, when I read stuff like this...

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0814-05.htm

Published on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times
Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty.

[amber dog democrat]

20. The normal have nothing to fear.

I have no doubt I would end up in one of these camps if certain people had their way.

[Cocoa]

9. I keep trying to ignore this elephant in my kitchen

if only it didn't stink so much.

[amber dog democrat]

13. Its just a matter of degree. Bush is not as smart or competant

as Hitler was. Nor was he decorated with the Iron Cross second class for courage under fire. For that matter Stalin was smarter and more competant than Bush.
He would be as evil as they were if given the opportunity - espccially since God speaks to him directly.

I am coming to equate bush supporters with Brown Shirts however.

[Cocoa]

14. cheering at Arnold's UN bashing

that was scary.

[amber dog democrat]

15. Der W ist der sieg!

Too bad Albert Speer could not have helped stage the 2004 Party Rally.

" Fill in the Ranks and keep the banners flying
Homeland Security Troopers march with silent steady tread"

to paraphrase the Horst Wessel Song.

[2Design]

11. the kind of propaganda once employed by the Third Reich in Nazi Germany.

I hope more people wake up to this FACT

[cheshire]

16. Turn about is fair play and we still speak the truth. To f**king bad

[DBoon]

17. There will be some sort of "astronauts for truth" group

Claiming John Glenn didn't really orbit the earth, he only faked it knowing he was going to run for Senate as a Democrat.

[FredScuttle]

27. "Mercury 11 Astronauts for Truth"

and the stunning new book "Unfit to Orbit". I think Alan Shepherd is leading this group

[AntiCoup2K4]

18. I wonder when John Glenn found out about Operation Northwoods?

If I were him, and had the knowledge that my own government was considering blowing me up in a rocket to justify the invasion of Cuba, I think I would be inclined to think of them as Nazis.

[snippy]

21. Karl Rove was the first person to compare Bush to Hitler.

Of course, Rove did it in a complimentary and admiring way.

I love pointing this out to Brown Shirts for Bush when they claim that comparing Bush to Hitler is irrational. I always emphasize that if anyone would know whether Bush was similar to Hitler it would be Rove.

It really annoys me that democrats never mention this on television.

[scarletwoman]

24. Whoaaaa. I must have missed that.

Any chance that you have a link for Rove saying that?

sw

[snippy]

26. The only link I have handy is from Drudge, but here it is.

Drudge excerpting from Woodward's book "Bush At War:

ROVE THOUGHT POST-9/11 WORLD SERIES GAME LIKE NAZI RALLY

"The president emerged wearing a New York Fire Department windbreaker. He raised his arm and gave a thumbs-up to the crowd on the third base side of the field. Probably 15,000 fans threw their arms in the air imitating the motion.

He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrenner’s box, Karl Rove thought, It’s like being at a Nazi rally." (p. 277)

http://www.drudgereport.com/wood.htm (emphasis added).

[scarletwoman]

29. Thanks! I don't need to click on Drudge, though.

knowing that it's from Woodward's book is a good enough source.

Thanks again,
sw

[dennis4868]

22. Hitler and Bush....

both cheated to take the offices they served

both use fear to get more power

both talked out of their asses and repeated the lies so much people began to believe it

both started illegal wars

I COULD GO ON......ENOUGH FOR NOW....THIS IS SO SAD!

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. If the truth hurts,

to damn bad! If he didn't act like Hitler, if his administration wasn't a mirror imagine of the Third Reich ....No One would be saying that. Tough shit if they don't like it. Let 'em freak out.

[AmerDem]

25. I hope his Hitler reference gets legs!

This is the first I have heard about it and I love it! Sen. Glenn keep up the good work!:toast:

[rullery]

28. Karl Rove, the strategist for Bush, admires Hitler's tactics.

Now we know what I have suspected for some time. I'm glad that John Glenn pointed it out. As a national hero, people cannot just dismiss what he has to say. I only hope enough folks wake up to what is going on before election day. If Bush manages to stay in office, we may never have another chance to rid ourselves of these Fascists! Truly, this could be America's last free election.

[mtnester]

30. I love John Glenn

He would make a wonderful governor...he was a great senator, and dammit, he would have been a fine president as well.

He makes me proud to be a Buckeye.

[Octafish]

31. God Speed, John Glenn!

Thank you for stating what needed to be said. Whenever the country needed a hero, John Glenn stood up and said, "Reporting for duty."



President Kennedy and John Glenn check out Friendship 7.

[mbali]

32. If anyone can say something like this, it's John Glenn

I dare the flyboy in chief's frat buddies to call Mr. Right Stuff - who REALLY flew fighter jets and THEN flew rockets - unpatriotic.

[Jim__]

33. I don't know how the republicans are reacting, but I think its GREAT!!!

[girl gone mad]

34. The Hitler comparison is..

true. I took many German WWII history classes in college, and I've thought the same thing about BUsh for some time now.

I would love to read a comparison by a good scholar of Nazi propoganda.

Even right now, I see Bush using one of Hitler's greatest tactics. People didn't really like him or support his policies, but they felt a sense of inevitability which lulled them into complacency and hopelessness. They just gave up fighting and accepted him.

I see shades of that happening right now. Look at the strong reaction to these most recent polls. Look at the number of threads started recently (it doesn't matter if they are plants or genuine) declaring Bush the victor, the conclusion foregone.

[Octafish]

35. Hermes-Press: Nazification of America

The folk who run Hermes-Press seem smarter than the average puke -- lot smarter than me, too, come to think of it. Like you and many DUers, today's parallels to NAZI times cannot be ignored.

Nazification of America

Phase 1: Hitler appointed Chancellor. Bush appointed Resident.

Phase 2: An atrocity to subdue the people. Reichstag fire and WTC/Pentagon attacks.

Phase 3: The leader destroys elections and appoints himself dictator.

SOURCE:

http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step3.htm

There's a lot of info and plenty o' links for the readers amongst us.

Gee. Sounds like we're in some kind of hot water.

[democracyindanger]

36. Huey P. Long

"If facism comes here, it'll be wrapped in the American flag."

[Oddman]

37. I am not a stupid moron,

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I am not a stupid moron!

[Cheswick2.0]

38. LOL

good one