speaking of the bradley effect

[Ava]

is anyone else scared that the republicans are going to try to use the bradley effect as a cover to steal the election this time around? that is the ONLY possible way they could even attempt to get away with it, and with the media bringing it up every day in the news now... it just scares the hell out of me.

the fact of the matter is that the bradley effect is complete bullshit today. those who won't vote for obama because of race are either
a. saying they won't vote for "that colored boy"
b. claiming that obama doesn't have enough "experience"
c. saying obama is a muslim and as a result they can't vote for him
d. saying they support john mccain for another reason

they are not, however, telling polsters that they'll be voting for obama. most of those who aren't going to vote for obama are very very vocal about it.

[meow2u3]

1. Those who won't vote for Obama due to race

are the ones whose minds are already made up--they're the ones voting for McHothead/Caribou Barbie.

[Ava]

2. which is why the bradley effect is irrelevant

[elocs]

3. You infer there is "speaking" of the Bradley Effect--by whom here other than you?

I mean, you are actually hearing speaking about it? The Bradley Effect is simply a theory that is pretty much hard to definitively prove. Some have theories about ghosts, but I am not afraid of them either.

[Ava]

5. have you been watching the news lately?

and i'm not afraid of the bradley effect, that isn't at all what i said. what i did say, is that i'm afraid that if the republicans try to steal this election like they did in 2000, they'll use the bradley effect as a cover to get away with it.

[elocs]

7. There really has been no speaking of it lately here at DU.

I went back 10 pages to 7 a.m. and there is nothing. I think this has already been discussed and largely dismissed here.

As for the fear part, I think fear is counterproductive. Obama says he does not do cowering and neither should we. I am sure that Obama is aware that Republicans may try and steal the election in places, but I don't think he fears it and neither should we. Recognize a problem and do all you can do to address it. Having fear does not help (although Republicans are very good at using fear as a method to achieve their ends).

[AndyTiedye]

4. Yes! The "Bradley Effect" is Really the "Diebold Effect"

The MSM is pushing a 6% "Bradley Effect" to give the Repiggies cover to steal 6%

[Vincardog]

8. Roger that "Bradley Effect" is Really the "Diebold Effect". WE can't let them steal it again

[political_Dem]

6. All I can say

Is that this election hinges more about character, bravery and courage for folks of the dominant culture than it ever is. They'll have to prove that the "Bradley Effect" is over.

That means, facing the history of race in this country and not ducking the conversation with the flimsy excuses of "too much race talk" as well as "race-bait".

If the "Bradley effect" is gone for good, then prove it and not complain about it. It's time to vote your conscience when concerned for this country.

Like I said before, I'll be watching to see what goes down.

[LSK]

9. no, they cannot steal it this time

McCain is behind by too much in too many states.

[southpaw]

10. My thinking is similar

It isn't as if the people being polled are given a choice between:

A. I'm voting for Obama.

B. I'm not voting for Obama because I'm a bigot.


People who don't want to vote for Obama, whatever their reason might be, can easily offer up a justification that has nothing to do with Obama's race.

More to the point, many of the very people whose fundamental beef with Obama is his ancestry have probably convinced themselves that there is another, more socially acceptable reason why they are not voting for him.

My sense is that the Bradley effect will have little to no effect on the outcome.