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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:19 AM
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After Decades of DEMONIZING Liberals
Calling us Terrorist Sympathizers
Calling us Pinko Commie Terrorists
Calling us the Democrat Party
Calling us Tax And Spend 'Libruls'

After having their spiritual leaders pray for disasters to hit predominantly Democratic towns and for harm to come to our leaders.

After having their political leaders tell our leaders to "Go Fuck Themselves" and "Sit Down and Shut-up"

After passing every legislative Bill on Bush's Agenda and blocking every Democratic legislative initiative since we regained control of Congress

These Asshole Republicans Want To Change The Tone Of Politics in DC? Really? Because, now that us "Libruls" are about to gain a filibuster-proof majority, you NeoCons are shitting your pants at how your party is about to come to an end. The piss is running down your legs because all that power you gave to Bush is about to fall into the hands of Obama. All the shitty things you did to us, you are now about the reap what you sowed.

And that's the only reason why you want to change the tone of politics in Washington.

And I think the American people want the Democrats to act as their harbinger of vengeance for all that you Republicons have done to the people of this country. They want JUSTICE for your crimes. And it is coming.

We'll change the tone of Politics all right, but it won't be the friendly, wimpy tone you expect from the former Democratic party. I have a feeling you won't like one bit the change of tone that is coming to D.C. Not one bit.
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VAliberal Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:22 AM
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1. Amen.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:28 AM
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2. I hope enough that you're right to recommend this;
maybe relegating Reid and Pelosi to the back benches would be a good first step.

My dream would be Kucinich as Chair of the Committee For The Settling Of Scores And Fixing Of Wagons.:evilgrin:
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Omnibus Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:02 AM
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8. If Kucinich can't be Secretary of Defense,
he'd make a great Speaker of the House.

I'd like to see him as SoD because the budget cuts he'd enact would balance the budget in 4 years or less.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:41 AM
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14. That's got to be the republican's nightmare
Kucinich and Waxman with Subpoena Power and a Justice department that will back them up :scared:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:18 AM
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21. Be still my heart
I would LOVE, LOVE, Love to see that happen.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:03 AM
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19. Fixing of wagons! I love it!
Really, investigations into long term damage by the Republican majority must be looked into. These harms must be undone and those responsible must be punished.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:28 AM
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3. I'm all for demonizing them for the rest of my lifetime
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:34 AM
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4. Bullies hate being confronted by those who aren't scared of them.
Then they never fail to show their themselves for the whiny ass shitheels they are.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:58 AM
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7. Speaking of I just got a nasty snarky personal attack on another
forum. Basically the poster got upset because I posted how odd I found it that the republicons held both houses since the mid 90's until last year and how since 2000 controlled all of government yet couldn't stop the evil democrats from deregulating banks and all the rest of Wall streets woes.

The person then attacked my personal life based on what I had posted and what another poster attacked me on, which was mostly made up because my SO had the nerve to question the person on their greatness. Anyhow instead of attacking back or even addressing his attack, I answered his question.

His question was how come liberals didn't warn conservatives about the dangers of deregulation and privatizing everything, when the greatest conservative minds couldn't see it coming.. I posted that liberals had been saying since 1979 that the path republicons were on this would be the end result. I wonder if he will attack again lol.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:30 AM
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12. LOL...nice.
greatest conservative minds

You mean they've had one? :rofl:

Keep at 'em. As the saying goes, "better to die on your feet than live on your knees." Truer words were never spoken.

:toast:
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:36 AM
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5. ever notice
when the repugs feel they're losing or being held accountable for their crap, they whine how 2 negatives don't make a right and so on. I'm hearing it already in the media how treating the GOP and their mindless supporters as they have treated us is not mature and unproductive. I remember very well how vicious the wingnuts have been to Dems and anyone who dared to criticize bushie and his cronies. And I also remember what they were like to us immed. after both elections in 2000 and 2004.....especially the one in 2004 when many of them were blatant *holes to us in person and on the net, in the media, etc.

And now that they're failing and even fighting amongst themselves over McCain/Palin and their low poll ratings, they want us to be nice to them. I feel little sympathy for them. I hope most of the people who are losing their homes, jobs, investments and so forth, are bush and McSame supporters - that would be payback in itself!
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katusha Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:45 AM
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6. sow the wind...reap the whirlwind
now they will taste the grapes of wrath and then gaze at the destruction they have wrought upon our fair people.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:08 AM
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9. They won't get vengeance
What they'll get will hurt them more, the complete repudiation of their entire failed philosophy. Its totally been enough, way more than enough. They have completely crashed the economy and robbed the people blind twice now. Their beliefs are flawed.

They must accept that the role of government is to do what must be done to protect the public interest that cannot be accomplished by the individuals.

No, what they will get is the proper civilization we all deserve.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:11 AM
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10. If the tone is anything like your post- or like a lot of posts on GD these days
We don't deserve to have any power. Not even a little.

Truth be told, I'm as ashamed of the way some folks have been acting on DU as almost anything you can read on other boards.

Does that make me and people like me a supporter of Harry Reid? No.

But on the other hand, it also doesn't make people like us Palin's- which from what I just read- it seems like some people want to be.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:31 AM
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16. Oh, so sorry. You go on with your ashamed self; we victors will have RIGHTEOUS ANGER and JUSTICE for
WAR CRIMES, STOLEN ELECTIONS, SLANDER, LIBEL, etc.

Poor baby.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:53 AM
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18. nothing wrong with justice
in fact, justice is essential

but vengeance, like hate, is ultimately self-destructive


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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:45 AM
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23. The above poster wouldn't know the concept of justice
or accountability if it hit him upside the head with a brick.

His own words show that very clearly- and no one with any sense of history wants people like that in power.



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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:46 PM
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27. I agree justice is essential.
But I also feel vengeance and hatred are also essential - they are natural parts of people expressing their anger and showing that there are consequences to being exploited over and over again. However, threatening to behead someone because you don't agree with them, as with the McSame/Palin fanatics, is not my idea of justice, nor the right way to use hatred. Hatred, like any emotion is there for a reason, whether it is politically correct to say that or not. The difference is how we use anger and hatred.

I choose this election to use my absolute hatred of the GOP, bushie, McCain, as well as Palin, to make sure I vote for Obhama. I also find vengeance is watching the GOP fight amongst themselves...or as it has been referred to recently: to feed on themselves. They deserve it. And I appreciate knowing that a percentage of those suffering financially right now are bush, cheney, and rove supporters, etc. I feel sorry only for everyone else who is losing their homes, jobs and so on because of junior and the GOP, along with their fool-hearted supporters.

Obhama is clearly leading McSame as just noted by the NYT poll that puts Obhama 14 pts. ahead of McSame. As it stands right now, the only way for McSame to win is by another rigged election. And if that happens, I believe we're going to see a great deal of anger, hatred, and vengeance in away we haven't seen in awhile - such as people actually taking to the streets similar to the 1960's and even earlier.

And if they do....they will have my 100 percent support.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:40 PM
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29. Look who's whining.. and has
been this whole primary and general election cycle.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:58 PM
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39. Isn't that an interesting observation and so true n/t
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:29 AM
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11. It would be nice to hear "liberal" said without a tone of contempt
I'm disgusted how they've managed to make us into the bad guys and even the way they say "liberal" as if it was something smelly stuck to the bottom of a shoe.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:40 AM
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13. They are going to be too busy attacking each other
After November 4, 2008 after they have no power to decide which one of them gets to hold the Conch to amount any kind of an offensive for 6 years. The kind of ass kicking electorally the are going to recieve this year is the type that causes a party to have to totally re-evaluate their direction.

They are going to spend 75% of there time debating on why McCain lost and why their Senate candidates lost whether they are too conservative or not conservative enough. Truth be told the conservatives will win that battle amongst themselves because they are the nastiest fuckers in the bunch. Which means we will probably be the party in power for the next 20 years to 40 years in government as long as we don't massively fuck up or become like they did in 1994 with corruption.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:10 AM
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15. Just like McCain's campaign, though, their's will be a two-pronged approach ...
(1) a continual chastising of the mainstream, corporate media for being too critical and biased, calling for a more reasoned political discourse;

(2) on the fringes and on AM talk radio, a return to the hate speech of the 1990s, with Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. leading the way.

It'd be funny if it weren't so damaging.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:18 AM
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17. good rant I approve
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:05 AM
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20. A huge K&R and bookmarked! n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:25 AM
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22. Let justice flow
like water.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:15 AM
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24. Indeed.
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:53 PM
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25. I couldn't agree with the OP more
I will not back down to these assholes anymore. The humiliation and condescending remarks about how great their guy was, I took their shit. They were mean, vicious, they called me a liberal hippy, someone that didn't have a grasp on reality and I took it. After the assholes fired me and their company eventually went belly up, I was glad.

I have wished horrible harm to them, (buddha would not be happy with me) but I listened to this bullshit since Ronny the fuck up Reagan took office. He began these fuck heads history and I have had it. I say one thing to people and I am totally serious when I say it. If I find out they are repukes I go up to them and say "Well, if you are still a republican you have to be either stupid or a racist, which one are you?" If they don't answer I press them further. I don't take shit from any of them and I don't fucking care anymore. I almost feel like give me a reason asshole to take it out, because I'm waiting patiently for the opportunity.

There is a dumb fat ass that lives across the street, she's an mccain follower. My son tried talking sense to her, but anyone within my earshot (and she has stayed the fuck away from me) I will beat the fuck down. I have wished harm on her, so she will lose her house. It's not normally like me to be this way, but after hearing someone say that screw people without insurance, they don't deserve to be helped (and she is a nursing assistant) I can hold back. No more. These people have ruined 50 years of my life and I will be damned if they are going to get the other 50. These people need to be slammed into the ground on any and every occasion and as often as possible. Don't give these people any room to move, eventually they will go away or get the fuck on the band wagon. It happened with racism (well except in the south...LOL) and I think it will happen again with these stupid ass, red white and blue, christian, right wing mother fuckers who have screwed with our country long enough. It's time and I have already started....LOL
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:08 PM
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34. I (think) I understand your anger.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 11:14 PM by Ladyhawk
I've been there a lot over the past eight years.

I am the only non-religious, progressive person in my family. I didn't get that way overnight. It took many years and many tears. I had huge arguments with my family. Most of them are still fundamentalists and all of them are still Republicans. They will vote the McCain / Palin ticket. In fact, I had to move a McCain / Palin bumper sticker in order to sit down at a family function a few nights ago. It barely fazed me.

The fact is I cannot afford to harbor that much anger. It was eating me alive.

You can either be right...or you can be happy. If there is that much of a philosophical rift between family members and you, you cannot be both. You have to let it go.

Didn't someone once say, "With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:05 AM
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37. Yes
Anger really only damages the person who is angry!:toast:
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:12 PM
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26. yeah, we'll just see what the dems do wtih their filibuster-proof majority....
....if they get it.

but i agree, the hypocrisy is staggering.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:34 PM
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28. And it has been decades. Rethugs dish it out, but they can't take
it.

KARMA! It's coming.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:48 PM
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30. When I think of this, I remember what Tupac said in one of his tracks:
"(people) love to scream 'PEACE!' after they start some sh*t"

NOTE: my word in parenthesis


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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:49 PM
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31. Yeah, I realize it may be 'coming down to their level', but I don't want us to be too NICE to these
bastards!
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:53 PM
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32. At the same time we have to reclaim liberalism
Calling ourselves progressive isn't the ticket. We have to embrace liberalism (when appropriate) and quit hiding from it. Otherwise, our gains are temporary, and we'll be fighting essentially the same fight four years from now - on their terms again.

This fight needs to be over.
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:04 PM
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33. liberalism is nonsense
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 11:07 PM by Poseidan
Government is an agency of power. Liberalism, when granting government additional power, can be extremely dangerous. Liberalism, as in, the expansion or increase of government, when it does not give government any real additional power, can be perfectly fine, yet defining this form of liberalism as liberalism is inaccurate.

Government, by nature, is tyrannical. The highest priority is to eliminate government tyranny. Notions of liberalism and conservatism are... basically... a bunch of bullshit. If you read our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, you find neither word. What you do find are massive protections, meant to eliminate government tyranny and government oppression. If you read the history of government, you will understand perfectly well why our government was structured the way it was, and what the real priority should be (not furthering an ideology, something tantamount to religion).

If we use a system of competition, private and public competing, allowing people to choose which service to subscribe, the government is expanded and increased, but gains no real additional power, as at any time, the people can gain the same services through the private sector.

Although, certainly, you may call restrictions 'liberal', which is fine in the case of restricting the size of corporations (preventing any kind of financial monarchy or dictatorship to form), and political parties (same reasons).
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM
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38. You need a beer
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM by sampsonblk
I am talking about the liberalism that Jesus Christ outlined. You know, looking out for your fellow man, taking care of the poor. Do unto others... Turn the other cheek. Judge not... All that important stuff that conservatives have conveniently forgotten. I was not sugesting it as a detailed philosophy of government, but a way of life.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:04 AM
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35. BRAVO!
:kick:
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:37 AM
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36. JUSTICE
"They want JUSTICE for your crimes."


Yep, that's what I want.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:00 PM
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40. Excellent point. Same as their calls in 2006 for a change in the tone of Congress.
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 01:01 PM by No Elephants
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:02 PM
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41. Hear Hear! nt
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